Official 2023 NCAA Indoors Day 2 Discussion Thread - (Live instant reaction show at 12 mid ET/ 9 pm Pacific)

Was thinking the same thing. That's incredible!

When did that happen? In auto racing, having the "pole" means starting on the inside of the first row. It has nothing to do with positions during the race.

I don't think I've ever heard it used in track.

I actually think the 400m might end up being Sumner's better event. He's going to get better at the 8, but he's gonna get better at the 4 too. He comes off to me like a "500m guy" if that were a thing.

he set the high school national record in the 500 last year so you're not wrong

Massoudi looked like he stepped in front of Bosley into his lane a stride or so from the finish. He would have won anyway but was that necessary?

it's because indoors the 3rd lane is actually the worst lane on these banked tracks. So pole position is measured mid race by who gets to the 200 split first where everyone is equal

Notably, Jacobs, though he nearly had the college record himself in the 3k, was facing the college record holder and another guy who was even better in Messoudi and who ran a time that converts to 7:35-36, so let's face it, Tuohy had nowhere near the level of competition as in the men's race. Or to put it another way, her best of 8:35 is 20 seconds off of Dibaba's indoor wr, if memory serves, whereas this performance and Bosley's record, tenths of a second faster than Jacobs ran this season, are 12 seconds off the world record. Tuohy is a great NCAA runner and just dominated xc, 3k, and 5k. Leave it at that. She is far better than any other healthy NCAA distance runner right now.

Well, it turns out I was right and wrong.

I'm right about how it's used elsewhere, but a quick look shows it has been used in athletics/track & field to mean the rail position since the early 20th century. It was common enough to be used in such classics as Charles Paddock's "Track and Field: Speed ~ Stamina ~ Strength ~ Endurance." (USC sprinter Paddock, who was an Olympic gold medalist, and probably was the first person called "The Fastest Man Alive.")

DYF may also be right that the usage has changed to mean lead rather than just "on the rail."

Far better on the women's side. The level of competition on the women's side is weaker than on the men's side by a lot, however.

That's interesting, thanks. I wonder when that came into use?

PS See the post above on how it was used in the 20s & 30s.

Lets go over this again. PEDs have a lower impact on males than females due to basic biology and physiology, higher natural muscle mass, etc. Hence WRs that are due to PED use will be reflected to a higher degree on the women's side. So when you blather about the closer proximity of male ncaa times to the wr vs. female times, that is why. Your analysis is drivel. Leave it at that.

Messaoudi also blatantly pushed, cut off, and clearly impeded Duncan Hamilton with three laps to go.

Question: the athlete who fell from Baylor in the final (400m men's) - shouldn't he have just jogged it in to be All American? doesn't matter the time, he just has to finish.

Here's the video, it's the first race.

Here is the result which says he DNF. https://flashresults.ncaa.com/Indoor/2023/003-2_compiled.htm

Those 800M Britton has run have certainly paid off. Good for her.

Sydney was at the NB High School Meet and interviewed by Citius Mag. The young lady is absolutely gorgeous. Drop dead stunning

Lance Harter and listen to what he says about Gregory...like I posted umpteen times she was going to try to win it for him.

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NCAA D1 Indoor Championships - Videos - Arkansas Women's Coach Lance Harter on Winning Team Title in Final Career Indoor Meet - NCAA D1 Indoor Championships 2023

Arkansas women's head coach Lance Harter reflects on the Razorbacks capturing their fourth indoor team crown and 48th all-time national team title in program history with 64 points, edging runner-up Texas with 60 points at th...

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very good interview

I'd love to hear her reaction to the NCAA 400 she went off to watch

She sure slammed the door on Kyle when he inquired about her training. I guess Bob runs a tight ship in that regard. I think sprints are more defensive that way.