Harambe wrote:
All these repeated attempts to discredit the effectiveness of the vaccine are being refuted by basic (or slightly more advanced) arithmetic.
Have the deniers read the oft reposted piece showing how even with 60% of hospitalized patients in Israel vaccinated... efficacy against severe disease is OVER 90%?
No, they haven't. They have no desire to learn. Just hope their dogma is correct. It's not.
1 minute to change handles. Nice! Practice makes perfect.
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Harambe wrote:
All these repeated attempts to discredit the effectiveness of the vaccine are being refuted by basic (or slightly more advanced) arithmetic.
Have the deniers read the oft reposted piece showing how even with 60% of hospitalized patients in Israel vaccinated... efficacy against severe disease is OVER 90%?
No, they haven't. They have no desire to learn. Just hope their dogma is correct. It's not.
1 minute to change handles. Nice! Practice makes perfect.
Covid Derangement Syndrome imparts keyboard superpowers!
Rip van Winkle wrote:
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106932532-1629828153456-image.jpg?v=1629828159&w=1910
Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
Why are people so mad the vaccine works?
historian wrote:
Rip van Winkle wrote:
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106932532-1629828153456-image.jpg?v=1629828159&w=1910Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
The Israeli data shows that the vaccines work too... to be clear.
So both graphs show the same thing. Oops! You proved the point that vaccines work.
The real 'insanely misleading' arguments come -exclusively- from the anti-vaxxers.
https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinatedHarambe wrote:
.bbn wrote:
I can turn on the nightly news and hear exactly what you've been spewing on this forum. You go off script even less than Biden behind a teleprompter.
"and know how to read primarily literature."
I'm guessing grammar isn't your specialty? LOL
The news media isn't amazing, but they do turn to domain experts for commentary on these issues. You know, the people who write the primary literature.
I suggest you try reading yourself. It can be an illuminating process.
If and only if it supports their current narrative. Science doesn't lie, but scientists do.
Harambe wrote:
masked man wrote:
And the Left is doing the exact same thing regardless if you will acknowledge it or not. Funny with the timing of this FDA approval. Happened just after demented Joe totally effed up departure from Afghanistan and cost many their lives. I do believe that the vaccines are indeed working but it's one of the few truths regarding Covid19. We've been given so much misinformation from both political sides. You can only see the misinformation from the Right though.
Meh, I agree there is sensationalism everywhere.
Vaccines are the biggest sticking-point right now. They're a gigantic division in the US. The fact that you agree that the "left's" messaging has been correct is a bit of an implicit admission that they are being more honest right now. It's hard to argue that the side that pushed HCQ, claimed deaths were faked, acted like we were at herd immunity a year ago, and now says vaccines don't work/are deadly is not the one pushing more misinformation.
I don't agree that the Lefts messaging has been correct. The fact that the vaccines are working is not "owned" nor due to the Left . I didn't push fake deaths. HCQ has shown to be effective if given early, but not late. Guess what the MSM reported about HCQ?
Harambe wrote:
historian wrote:
Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
The Israeli data shows that the vaccines work too... to be clear.
So both graphs show the same thing. Oops! You proved the point that vaccines work.
The real 'insanely misleading' arguments come -exclusively- from the anti-vaxxers.
https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated
The vaccine obviously isn't working very well, they have higher numbers of cases and are on path to have higher numbers of deaths than they did last August without any vaccines. If the vaccine is supposed to keep people from spreading the virus then it isn't doing its job here.
2600 bro wrote:
ImpaIa31 wrote:
You sound upset.
You could start your therapy by pointing out where I am wrong.
I will wait. And wait, and wait, and wait...
Well you never really say anything….
But Harambe has literally saved lives by convincing LRC tough-guys to get the vaccine.
You’ve just fearmongered and whined!
At least you’re very easy to trigger :)
You may take that out of your mouth now.
historian wrote:
Rip van Winkle wrote:
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106932532-1629828153456-image.jpg?v=1629828159&w=1910Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
THIS is exactly what the Left has been doing over and over again during the pandemic and then crying when the public calls them out over distorted and down right false information. But, but, but the Science.
masked man wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Well you never really say anything….
But Harambe has literally saved lives by convincing LRC tough-guys to get the vaccine.
You’ve just fearmongered and whined!
At least you’re very easy to trigger :)
You may take that out of your mouth now.
Must I?
masked man wrote:
historian wrote:
Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
THIS is exactly what the Left has been doing over and over again during the pandemic and then crying when the public calls them out over distorted and down right false information. But, but, but the Science.
Show me a graph that shows the “exact opposite.” Remember to correct for base vax rate.
Good luck! I’m excited!
masked man wrote:
I don't agree that the Lefts messaging has been correct. The fact that the vaccines are working is not "owned" nor due to the Left . I didn't push fake deaths. HCQ has shown to be effective if given early, but not late. Guess what the MSM reported about HCQ?
Bro this is just not true. There's no evidence it works at any time. There's a reason even the right dropped it as a talking point.
Also, it's mainly the center and left who, you know, are encouraging people to get vaxxed. Almost all the anti-vaxx messaging in the US comes from the right! That's enough to tilt the scales for now..
masked man wrote:
historian wrote:
Just came here to post how insanely misleading this graph is. It uses specific dates and locations that fit the agenda. You could do the same thing with cases in Israel over the last month and it would show the exact opposite.
THIS is exactly what the Left has been doing over and over again during the pandemic and then crying when the public calls them out over distorted and down right false information. But, but, but the Science.
It's not misleading. Every graph you could post of this type shows vaccines are working. It's not misleading just because the data are unequivocal! The trust doesn't owe equal airtime to itself and every other conspiracy out there.
There is definitely a pandemic. However, mostly the pandemic is government tyranny, censorship, intolerance, laziness, unaccountability, mental weakness, greed, & financial fraud.
this again wrote:
The vaccine obviously isn't working very well, they have higher numbers of cases and are on path to have higher numbers of deaths than they did last August without any vaccines. If the vaccine is supposed to keep people from spreading the virus then it isn't doing its job here.
Wrong on all levels.
The vaccine was never promoted as "keeping people from spreading the virus" - it was intended to lessen the seriousness of their reaction to the virus, but was shown (with Alpha) to lessen the likelihood of getting it/spreading it.
The vaccine is still doing it's job, despite higher numbers of infections in american society (driven by the unvaccinated), that's causing more breakthrough infections.
The vaccine is keeping much higher percentage of vaccinated people who've become infected OUT of the hospital, compared to the percentage of infected unvaccinated who are filling up ICU's. Those stupid and selfish individuals are pushing the ramifications and consequences onto the rest of society by limiting or eliminating non-covid hospital capability.
WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW wrote:
The vaccine is keeping much higher percentage of vaccinated people who've become infected OUT of the hospital, compared to the percentage of infected unvaccinated who are filling up ICU's. Those stupid and selfish individuals are pushing the ramifications and consequences onto the rest of society by limiting or eliminating non-covid hospital capability.
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SIX MONTHS. Did you see this ? SIX MONTHS ! What happened to eight months ?
Face it, vaxxers. Your concoctions are running on fumes. BIG TROUBLE ON THE HORIZON !
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Federal regulators are likely to approve a Covid-19 booster shot for vaccinated adults starting at least six months after the previous dose rather than the eight-month gap they previously announced, a person familiar with the plans said, as the Biden administration steps up preparations for delivering boosters to the public.
Data from vaccine manufacturers and other countries under review by the Food and Drug Administration is based on boosters being given at six months, the person said. The person said approval for boosters for all three Covid-19 shots being administered in the U.S.—those manufactured by Pfizer Inc. and partner BioNTech SE, Moderna Inc. and Johnson & Johnson —is expected in mid-September.
The Biden administration and companies have said that there should be enough supply for boosters that they plan to begin distributing more widely on Sept. 20. The U.S. has purchased a combined 1 billion doses from Pfizer and Moderna.
A White House spokesman declined to comment. An FDA spokeswoman declined to comment on interactions with vaccine manufacturers.
DanM wrote:
SIX MONTHS. Did you see this ? SIX MONTHS ! What happened to eight months ?
Face it, vaxxers. Your concoctions are running on fumes. BIG TROUBLE ON THE HORIZON !
Why make the same post on multiple threads word-for-word. At least have some creativity?
DanM, do you ever want to actually learn about these things? You seem to have no desire to actually understand the situation.
Lol. The irony
