Official 2020 London Marathon Men's Race Live Discussion Thread

BBC interview Kipchoe after race: He said his ear was blocked ( mby from the rain? or some kind of illness) and he got cramps and the last 15k were super hard. He had a big jacket and after 1min into the interview started to shiffer real bad. Looks like the weather got him sick and that explains the "bad time". But still finishing now hopefully getting well soon.

Kipchoge looks like he was freezing in that big jacket. What the hell is shiffer? Do you mean shiver?

NoDNF wrote:

BBC interview Kipchoe after race: He said his ear was blocked ( mby from the rain? or some kind of illness) and he got cramps and the last 15k were super hard. He had a big jacket and after 1min into the interview started to shiffer real bad. Looks like the weather got him sick and that explains the "bad time". But still finishing now hopefully getting well soon.

He'll bounce back quickly. As I said, it's just the weather. You suffer cramps and stiff legs that you don't normally do, especially when you're skin and bone.

*shiver

irunfastXC wrote:

VaporBoi wrote:

Kipchoge missed his bottle at 20km or 25km. Didn't see him grab another one after until maybe 40km when he was already dropped

Do you think that made that much of a difference? I mean, didn’t they have access to the bottles every 1.3 miles? ??‍♂️ If he didn’t take in enough nutrition, I think that’s on him.

Yes. Not taking nutrition for the 2nd half of a marathon will cause you to bonk. He takes a gel + the Maurten drink. That has to be 50-60g of carbs each time. Missing several bottles for someone used to taking them is a disaster.

It's totally all on him though. He dropped it the one time but never even tried again from what I could tell. Maybe he was nauseous or something because he had to have known that was a bad idea.

Kipchoge looked like he was coming down with something in the interview, shivering. Blocked ear (mucus?) certainly doesn't sound normal thing to be happening in a race. Also I think he said he had cramps in his leg which might have something to do with the Alphafly's and the rain, which I hope will encourage Nike to perhaps reduce the stack height slightly. You know, in case there is rain or maybe something other than pancake flat course. But that's just speculation, I bet he has run in them in the rain and mud before.

I also wondered if he might have bonked as somebody already said I didn't see him taking drinks in the second half of the race. I think this is good for the sport and for Kipchoge too, he said he will run three more marathons so I hope he will sort things out and put together a couple more good training blocks before retirement.

Also, what a great race and sprint finish, the conditions seemed to have been really tough if you look at the 5K splits, 15:38 and 15:14 for the last 5K's. Geremew once again just misses out, feel like this was his big moment.

George213 wrote:

irunfastXC wrote:

Holy crap.

You know, very early on (mile 3?) Kipchoge looked mortal. Arm carriage was very restricted compared to his normal self.

Did Kipchoge just Bonk? Is this Father Time? Is this just a poor buildup? Had the competition gotten better?

Last thought: Bekele is probably kicking himself right now.

I think it has to do neither of them. It's the weather. Kipchoge is just to skinny (115 pound at 5'6 IIRC) to run in cold, heavy rain. You could see the top 3 looked huge in comparison.

I seem to remember when Kipchoge beat Kipsang in London, Kipsang implied that Kipchoge handled the cold + rain better than he did because Kipchoge was fatter. Guess he's not so fat anymore.

I was wondering when someone was - finally - gonna say it ("goes home devastated")! What a bunch of fan boys here, i.e. scrambling to make excuses (just like the announcers did) for Kipchoge getting thrashed. Yeah, 2:06+ in the rain is still a very good mark; but, hey, 7 guys dropped him today.

George213 wrote:

NoDNF wrote:

BBC interview Kipchoe after race: He said his ear was blocked ( mby from the rain? or some kind of illness) and he got cramps and the last 15k were super hard. He had a big jacket and after 1min into the interview started to shiffer real bad. Looks like the weather got him sick and that explains the "bad time". But still finishing now hopefully getting well soon.

He'll bounce back quickly. As I said, it's just the weather. You suffer cramps and stiff legs that you don't normally do, especially when you're skin and bone.

Absolutely possible. The weather was of some importance today. And as one gets older even more. Kipchoge is 35 or 36yo. It will be more challenging for him next year.

at least a full year to ... wrote:

BitcoinLou wrote:

Kipchoge runs a 2:06..."it's an off day". Why can't I have an off day like that??

We now know it takes more than a year to recover from a sub-2 Marathon.

He didn’t run a sub 2 hour marathon.

Paul Bunyan wrote:

George213 wrote:

I think it has to do neither of them. It's the weather. Kipchoge is just to skinny (115 pound at 5'6 IIRC) to run in cold, heavy rain. You could see the top 3 looked huge in comparison.

I seem to remember when Kipchoge beat Kipsang in London, Kipsang implied that Kipchoge handled the cold + rain better than he did because Kipchoge was fatter. Guess he's not so fat anymore.

You mean 2015 London? It seemed to be just some light rain and the wind didn't look as bad either. Cold and rain is a deadly combination.

Signs of aging wrote:

George213 wrote:

He'll bounce back quickly. As I said, it's just the weather. You suffer cramps and stiff legs that you don't normally do, especially when you're skin and bone.

Absolutely possible. The weather was of some importance today. And as one gets older even more. Kipchoge is 35 or 36yo. It will be more challenging for him next year.

With his work ethic, as long as he isn't nursing an injury, I'm confident he will come back strong next year.

You mean 2015 London? It seemed to be just some light rain and the wind didn't look as bad either. Cold and rain is a deadly combination.[/quote]

Yes, I'm sure it was a lot worse today. Just thought it was funny because Kipsang explained his loss by saying that Kipchoge benefited from having more fat.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/2015/04/28/i-will-be-back-charged-kipsang-roars/

Rain wasn't a major factor. KIpchoge probably suffered from the Covid19-situation as he

is normally training in a group (and possibly a niggle). Maybe they all were.

In perfect condition, the winning time would be a minute faster, tops.

But why only Kipchoge was wearing the Alpha Fly?? It was the sub 2 hours shoes. So why all others runners wear the next% and not the AlphaFly. Are there some problem with the shoes or it is just Nike marketing? I would not buy a shoes at 300 dollars that even pro runners refuse to wear.

It was pretty stupid of the organisers to run a race in those conditions where your immune system will be destroyed and everyone in the race will now get covid. Why the fukk couldn't they have organised an elite only race in April? At least the weather was sunny and bright so it would be safer. I guess Bekele would of won if he ran and would definately have the WR if it was April. I can't wait to see Bekele win next year again. He always was the greatest.

Banana Bread wrote:

It was pretty stupid of the organisers to run a race in those conditions where your immune system will be destroyed and everyone in the race will now get covid. Why the fukk couldn't they have organised an elite only race in April? At least the weather was sunny and bright so it would be safer. I guess Bekele would of won if he ran and would definately have the WR if it was April. I can't wait to see Bekele win next year again. He always was the greatest.

This is London.

It always rains in London.

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Moen (for Europe) in 2h09'25", 9th

Incorrect. Was 9th just behind Kipchoge but ran 2:09:01

KITATA, Shura (ETH) 2:05:41

2. KIPCHUMBA, Vincent (KEN) 2:05:42

3. LEMMA, Sisay (ETH) 2:05:45

4. GEREMEW, Mosinet (ETH) 2:06:04

5. WASIHUN, Mule (ETH) 2:06:08

6. TOLA, Tamirat (ETH) 2:06:41

7. KIPRUTO, Benson (KEN) 2:06:42

8. KIPCHOGE, Eliud (KEN) 2:06:49

9. NORDSTAD MOEN, Sondre (NOR) 2:09:01

10. KIPSEREM, Marius (KEN) 2:09:25

Rest of top 20. As someone mentioned, fine result for Scullion. (Also Herzog & Mellor)

A name I don't know is Tristan Woodfine. Is that his debut? 2:10 is excellent. Someone that may break the Canadian record in the near future?

11. SCULLION, Stephen (IRL) 2:09:49

12. HERZOG, Peter (AUT) 2:10:06

13. MELLOR, Jonathan (GBR) 2:10:38

14. WOODFINE, Tristan (CAN) 2:10:51

15. CONNOR, Ben (GBR) 2:11:20

16. LUIS BARRIOS, Juan (MEX) 2:11:37

17. WARD, Jared (USA) 2:12:38

18. GRIFFITHS, Joshua (GBR) 2:13:11

19. THOMPSON, Chris (GBR) 2:13:32

20. HULSON, Charlie (GBR) 2:13:34