Ukraine has crossed the Dnipier..... going backwards towards Kiev
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Ardeshir Iman wrote:
Baltimore Glen wrote:
2,600 is DEVASTATING.
For Ukraine, funding does not matter compared to troop numbers. Russia can lose far more and carry on. Ukraine can't. They had a week to see the pincers closing but waited until near full encirclement before trying to evacuate. Then they had limited options and got torn apart trying to retreat through a gully and out one road.
Zelushny would not have done this. Syrsky is not a pragmatist. He nearly repeated Bakhmut, which he already bungled up. No matter for human life and for Ukraine that means no matter for strategy. Had he paid attention, a lot more men could have gotten out.
This conflict is going to come to a head: either foreign countries commit troops or we are going to see a massive capitulation in the future. Ukraine does not have the numbers.
Fair analysis. War is not sustainable for Ukraine unless it is fighting another Ukraine. You can pump all the formaldehyde you want into Ukraine and it won’t stop rotting. Ukraine lost territory in 2023 with full support from NATO. Let's see what kind of mobilization laws they can pass. They are still protecting 25-27 year olds, whom they never mobilized. They are trying to lower this age. And women. They made it mandatory for all women to register for services (a whereabouts tally) but have not been yanking them off the streets. If we see videos of women being grabbed off the streets, that is the end.
The ultimate irony... they can't mobilize anyone from the 20% of Ukraine that returned to Russia. They are not working with a full deck. I wonder how many Ukrainians that have been terrorized by Kiev since 2014 have switched citizenship to fight for Russia? They would be a real asset as they know these lands. In Avdiivka, 2015, people were LIVID AND FROTHING they were being attacked and killed by Kiev. They probably had their men defect to Russia years ago. How could you be expected to die for the side that spent many years trying to kill you and your city? That's a great recruitment strategy for Russia.
Interesting post. It seems the consensus. Those not willing to admit it don't discuss it. Then there is no problem until the war is lost.
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Lu Xun wrote:
Ardeshir Iman wrote:
Fair analysis. War is not sustainable for Ukraine unless it is fighting another Ukraine. You can pump all the formaldehyde you want into Ukraine and it won’t stop rotting. Ukraine lost territory in 2023 with full support from NATO. Let's see what kind of mobilization laws they can pass. They are still protecting 25-27 year olds, whom they never mobilized. They are trying to lower this age. And women. They made it mandatory for all women to register for services (a whereabouts tally) but have not been yanking them off the streets. If we see videos of women being grabbed off the streets, that is the end.
The ultimate irony... they can't mobilize anyone from the 20% of Ukraine that returned to Russia. They are not working with a full deck. I wonder how many Ukrainians that have been terrorized by Kiev since 2014 have switched citizenship to fight for Russia? They would be a real asset as they know these lands. In Avdiivka, 2015, people were LIVID AND FROTHING they were being attacked and killed by Kiev. They probably had their men defect to Russia years ago. How could you be expected to die for the side that spent many years trying to kill you and your city? That's a great recruitment strategy for Russia.
Interesting post. It seems the consensus. Those not willing to admit it don't discuss it. Then there is no problem until the war is lost.
There isn't enough manpower.
We knew this is in 2022.
The war is over. Continued fighting is completely senseless.
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Russia is in bad shape101
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Russia just wants Subways that look like the USA Subways82
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Ukrainian men have no interest in this fight, it’s Trump haters who are keeping them in it and getting them slaughtered.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
There isn't enough manpower.
We knew this is in 2022.
The war is over. Continued fighting is completely senseless.
Ukraine has the manpower and they are using it. Ukrainians are beating the SH*T out of mobilization units. Countless videos of brawls. Ukrainians continue beating up the mobilization units who are trying to kill them. The only way they can body snatch is isolating men by surprise. If there are groups of civilian men, they beat up mobilization body snatchers.
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Noyankee wrote:
Ukrainian men have no interest in this fight, it’s Trump haters who are keeping them in it and getting them slaughtered.
I support Russia. I also think Trump is an idiot and a liar. Supporting truth Trumps all.
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Noyankee wrote:
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Ukrainian men have no interest in this fight, it’s Trump haters who are keeping them in it and getting them slaughtered.
What a ridiculous lie. I bet you don't even believe it.
I know you guys love Russia, but why this disgusting nonsense you post insulting the efforts of millions of Ukrainians who have risked their lives and died defending their country against a murderous invader? You are some seriously amoral and fvcked up people.
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Colin Bomber Harris wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Ukrainian men have no interest in this fight, it’s Trump haters who are keeping them in it and getting them slaughtered.
What a ridiculous lie. I bet you don't even believe it.
I know you guys love Russia, but why this disgusting nonsense you post insulting the efforts of millions of Ukrainians who have risked their lives and died defending their country against a murderous invader? You are some seriously amoral and fvcked up people.
You need a copy editor. Your second sentence, first paragraph was acceptable.
The loss of life, Conflict in Ukraine over the past two years is the fault of U.S. m.i.c. and President Zelensky. All the dying, both sides and Ukraine will lose. You have been posting on this thread, several times a week for 1 1/2 year plus on other Conflict in Ukraine threads. You are not a military science genius but didn't it seem next to impossible to you for Ukraine to win war of attrition? You have read: war of attrition on this thread a time or two, yes or no?
To be clear, are you admitting today Ukraine has lost or will lose?
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Colin Bomber Harris wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Ukrainian men have no interest in this fight, it’s Trump haters who are keeping them in it and getting them slaughtered.
What a ridiculous lie. I bet you don't even believe it.
I know you guys love Russia, but why this disgusting nonsense you post insulting the efforts of millions of Ukrainians who have risked their lives and died defending their country against a murderous invader? You are some seriously amoral and fvcked up people.
No, their comment stands. They're more correct than you 2 years into the war.
At the beginning of the war, all the Nazi Rambo's signed up. Now it's people who don't want to fight. You are a bigger liar than Noyankee.
Why can't Ukraine remove Russia?
Why is Ukraine losing more and more territory?
Your devotion to nazis is losing. Your failed points don't even matter. It's just bonus humiliation for you because Ukraine is losing the war.
Let's see how your nazi seig heils worked out in Avdiivka...
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Svensson in Goteborg wrote:
Stated. This person probably is fat and stopped running many years ago. Their brain is obese with propaganda. Their body is surely together the same. I am Swedish. Everyone here knows America causes so many problems. Average Europeans are not stupid. We don’t dislike Americans but their government yes.
You were right. Average Europeans are not stupid. It's rich European policy makers who make all the problems, following America around in all its global terrorism.
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Interesting. This poll is from January 2024, before Ukraine sh*t itself in Avdiivka, facing massive collapse across the entire frontline which is starting now.
What would the poll reveal today?
5%?
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"Putin will deal with Ukraine, Brussels, and our government." - Polish farmers
Putin is seen as leader of the Free World. Across NATO/EU, from the USA to Poland, people would like to liberated from their own governments, especially from Biden, after all it was the Obama/Biden regime that backed the violent Nazi overthrow of the legit democratically elected government of the Ukraine in 2014, starting off the civil war and genocide/oppression of Russians and the Orthodox religion, which led us to where we are now. The traitor Democrats impeached Trump for merely inquiring into Biden's dealings in Ukraine.
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The Ukrainians are running away heroically while the Russians cowardly chase them and return more land to Russia.
But lets hear what the Ukraine government has to say:
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Poles are wrecking Ukraine. They blocked trucks for months (and still are). Then Ukraine put their containers on trains hoping to bypass. Now trains are being stopped and blocked by Polish farmers. Poles are pouring grain out of stopped trucks and train cars.
The same Americans who backed neonazis in Ukraine in 2014 - Now are the same ones that backed Saudi Arabia's genocide on Yemen, with bombs, famine and cholera, also starting 2014.
If you guessed the entire American government you are correct. 2014 was a prolific year for supporting neonazis and killing more brown people. America's gift to the world.
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