But that Whatabout..(fill in the blank) excuse doesn't and shouldn't give cover for greatest grifter, cheater, and literal abortionist that POTUS45 is.
It's okay to support the Trumpism branch of GOP politics but the man himself is a POS lying grifter of the greatest degree and it's time to move on from him. The new GOP doesn't need him anymore. We can take down Biden and turn Congress without him
I agree. I want him out of politics.
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
Hey moron, no other President/former President has ever stolen top secret and classified documents from the US Government before. And then, he didn't just steal them, he returned some and lied about not having any more. Then he and his lawyers engaged in talks that went nowhere to get the rest back, and he ignored TWO subpoenas.
He can't do that. It's not his sh!t. Nothing like that has ever happened before, so it is impossible for it to have been ignored in the past.
Your brain doesn't work like the brains of smart people. Idiot.
But that Whatabout..(fill in the blank) excuse doesn't and shouldn't give cover for greatest grifter, cheater, and literal abortionist that POTUS45 is.
It's okay to support the Trumpism branch of GOP politics but the man himself is a POS lying grifter of the greatest degree and it's time to move on from him. The new GOP doesn't need him anymore. We can take down Biden and turn Congress without him
I agree. I want him out of politics.
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
Hey moron, no other President/former President has ever stolen top secret and classified documents from the US Government before. And then, he didn't just steal them, he returned some and lied about not having any more. Then he and his lawyers engaged in talks that went nowhere to get the rest back, and he ignored TWO subpoenas.
He can't do that. It's not his sh!t. Nothing like that has ever happened before, so it is impossible for it to have been ignored in the past.
Your brain doesn't work like the brains of smart people. Idiot.
You sad stupid little man...
First, the president has the highest security clearance there is. The Secretary of State stealing classified documents and then destroying them to avoid a subpoena is a more serious crime than what Trump allegedly did.
Second, the FBI and DoJ have REPEATEDLY been caught lying and using bogus warrants to go after Trump. Trump not wanting to turn things over to them isn't exactly shocking.
The DoJ and FBI have been behaving like corrupt 3rd world cronies for over 7 years now.
The FBI is not an honest actor. The DoJ is not an honest actor. Biden doesn't even know what planet he's on.
The agency’s snooping powers — domestic surveillance to protect national security — should be removed from the FBI’s law enforcement duties, and located elsewhere in the executive branch.
Give up AdultInTheRoom you are surrounded by intelligent people who bombard you with the ugly facts. Flagpole and the Commode flusher are absolutely right.
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
They investigated it. And then completely ignored the law for political reasons.
James Comey refused to refer her for prosecution because he didn't want to hurt her chances in the election.
How the hell can you say someone "cooperated" with an investigation when they literally destroyed evidence and then lied about it under oath???
WTF are you even talking about??
Loretta Lynch didn't prosecute her because she's a corrupt partisan hack.
Trump doesn't drink because he watched his big brother die of alcoholism.
People who pass judgment on things they know nothing about always seem kind of "poncey" to me.
Hey moron, no other President/former President has ever stolen top secret and classified documents from the US Government before. And then, he didn't just steal them, he returned some and lied about not having any more. Then he and his lawyers engaged in talks that went nowhere to get the rest back, and he ignored TWO subpoenas.
He can't do that. It's not his sh!t. Nothing like that has ever happened before, so it is impossible for it to have been ignored in the past.
Your brain doesn't work like the brains of smart people. Idiot.
You sad stupid little man...
First, the president has the highest security clearance there is. The Secretary of State stealing classified documents and then destroying them to avoid a subpoena is a more serious crime than what Trump allegedly did.
Second, the FBI and DoJ have REPEATEDLY been caught lying and using bogus warrants to go after Trump. Trump not wanting to turn things over to them isn't exactly shocking.
The DoJ and FBI have been behaving like corrupt 3rd world cronies for over 7 years now.
The FBI is not an honest actor. The DoJ is not an honest actor. Biden doesn't even know what planet he's on.
1) Trump did not declassify any of those documents.
2) The President actually can NOT declassify many kinds of documents including nuclear weapons documents.
3) There is a process that has to be gone through to declassify documents, and everyone who would know if that happened has said he absolutely did NOT do that. Of COURSE he didn't. He's not a guy who adheres to rules and processes.
4) Those documents were NOT his to take.
5) The DOJ treated him with kid gloves initially. They asked for them back, they had discussions with him and his lawyers about getting the documents back. When they did get some back, he lied that he returned everything. He then ignore TWO separate subpoenas. Sorry, you absolute dumbf*ck, NO government official has EVER don't anything remotely as bad as Trump has done...and that's just going by what we KNOW he has done. It is still very possible there is more info to come that is even worse.
You are a f*cking moron to support this criminal behavior.
Give up AdultInTheRoom you are surrounded by intelligent people who bombard you with the ugly facts. Flagpole and the Commode flusher are absolutely right.
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
“…cost Clinton the election.”
Remember the “poosey grabbing” audio? And then the coordinated series of BS sexual assault allegations they rolled out each week through Sep-Oct against DJT? Yeah, that had no effect on the election.
You’re right- that absurd re-defining of what having a server in her basement, emailing classified info, and then destroying evidence was (from “criminally negligent” to “super-duper careless n stuff” (James Comey)) specifically to let her off the hook- was what cost her the election. It wasn’t because she is a terrible person that also ran on…..nothing.
How pathetic is the FBI to raid MaL to try to get the silly RussiaGate documents- a failed HOAX, which resulted in zero indictments for collusion.
Never forget that after the failed Hoax, and then failed impeachment, 50 Intel experts signed a letter claiming the information on the Biden laptop was rUsSiAn dIsInFoRmAtIoN (now fully admitted to be 100% real).
Blatant lying at all times. But you know, OrangeManBad.
First, the president has the highest security clearance there is. The Secretary of State stealing classified documents and then destroying them to avoid a subpoena is a more serious crime than what Trump allegedly did.
Second, the FBI and DoJ have REPEATEDLY been caught lying and using bogus warrants to go after Trump. Trump not wanting to turn things over to them isn't exactly shocking.
The DoJ and FBI have been behaving like corrupt 3rd world cronies for over 7 years now.
The FBI is not an honest actor. The DoJ is not an honest actor. Biden doesn't even know what planet he's on.
1) Trump did not declassify any of those documents.
2) The President actually can NOT declassify many kinds of documents including nuclear weapons documents.
3) There is a process that has to be gone through to declassify documents, and everyone who would know if that happened has said he absolutely did NOT do that. Of COURSE he didn't. He's not a guy who adheres to rules and processes.
4) Those documents were NOT his to take.
5) The DOJ treated him with kid gloves initially. They asked for them back, they had discussions with him and his lawyers about getting the documents back. When they did get some back, he lied that he returned everything. He then ignore TWO separate subpoenas. Sorry, you absolute dumbf*ck, NO government official has EVER don't anything remotely as bad as Trump has done...and that's just going by what we KNOW he has done. It is still very possible there is more info to come that is even worse.
You are a f*cking moron to support this criminal behavior.
You’ve literally been doing this stupid BS for 6+ years now.
And DJT is doing just fine. Golfing. Enjoying himself.
I am really wondering when RoJo is going to shut this down and delete this kind of stuff. I think the arguments for both side, which are clearly clearly as divided as the whole country , have been hashed out by now. The Volatile Vulgar name calling especially by an Old time regular on here like Flagpole, has no place on a running site, even if folks see this as a freedom of speech issue? Some of you have made the same point, literally over 50-75 times. Come on now...enough...and some of you, not just Flagpole, have really crossed some lines here.
Go ahead Flagpole, go tell me to go f-myself. That seems to be your tactic on here lately, it's sad , really. From a very smart, I thought Running authority, to a really really vulgar venomous name called. Come on now. No one will ever agree on this.
Anyone who still supports Trump today can go f*ck themselves. If that's you, then go f*ck yourself. If it's not you, then have a nice day.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
“…cost Clinton the election.”
Remember the “poosey grabbing” audio? And then the coordinated series of BS sexual assault allegations they rolled out each week through Sep-Oct against DJT? Yeah, that had no effect on the election.
No, I don't really remember that. But yes, I would hope that affected the election.
You’re right- that absurd re-defining of what having a server in her basement, emailing classified info, and then destroying evidence was (from “criminally negligent” to “super-duper careless n stuff” (James Comey)) specifically to let her off the hook- was what cost her the election. It wasn’t because she is a terrible person that also ran on…..nothing.
Being a terrible person who runs on nothing seems to win elections.
I don't know how anyone could deny that Comey's decision to open the investigation in October 2016 didn't harm Clinton's campaign. A candidate being investigated by the FBI weeks before an election. Of course it harmed her chances significantly.
How pathetic is the FBI to raid MaL to try to get the silly RussiaGate documents- a failed HOAX, which resulted in zero indictments for collusion.
You mentioned this before and I asked what difference it makes whether the classified documents that Trump appears to be in illegal possession of were used in an investigation or not. I don't get it. If they are classified, they are classified, no matter what they may have been later reviewed for. Why do you keep raising that (which is all media speculation at this point) as if it matters? Can you explain?
Never forget that after the failed Hoax, and then failed impeachment, 50 Intel experts signed a letter claiming the information on the Biden laptop was rUsSiAn dIsInFoRmAtIoN (now fully admitted to be 100% real).
Sorry. I'll probably forget the above by the end of the evening. I tend for forget most things that I have no interest in.
All this Clinton stuff is misdirected whadaboutyousim. We still have Trump down at Mar-El-Ratto stonewalling all attempts to get him to be reasonable and return stolen classified documents to the government where they belong. Some of you guys seem to actually support his behavior, when you aren't making up defenses for it.
First, the president has the highest security clearance there is. The Secretary of State stealing classified documents and then destroying them to avoid a subpoena is a more serious crime than what Trump allegedly did.
Second, the FBI and DoJ have REPEATEDLY been caught lying and using bogus warrants to go after Trump. Trump not wanting to turn things over to them isn't exactly shocking.
The DoJ and FBI have been behaving like corrupt 3rd world cronies for over 7 years now.
The FBI is not an honest actor. The DoJ is not an honest actor. Biden doesn't even know what planet he's on.
1) Trump did not declassify any of those documents.
2) The President actually can NOT declassify many kinds of documents including nuclear weapons documents.
3) There is a process that has to be gone through to declassify documents, and everyone who would know if that happened has said he absolutely did NOT do that. Of COURSE he didn't. He's not a guy who adheres to rules and processes.
4) Those documents were NOT his to take.
5) The DOJ treated him with kid gloves initially. They asked for them back, they had discussions with him and his lawyers about getting the documents back. When they did get some back, he lied that he returned everything. He then ignore TWO separate subpoenas. Sorry, you absolute dumbf*ck, NO government official has EVER don't anything remotely as bad as Trump has done...and that's just going by what we KNOW he has done. It is still very possible there is more info to come that is even worse.
You are a f*cking moron to support this criminal behavior.
You think Trump had the launch codes in a shoe box under his bed in Mar a Lago and I'm the moron? LOL!!!
LOL- more outlets now admitting the raid was, in fact, all about trying to get the RussiaGate Hoax documents back.
No wonder Trump still hasn’t zero (0) indictments against him.
Cant blame the FBI though. Such an embarrassing hoax attempt. Should’ve used those resources to- I don’t know- stop one of the school shooters “that were on our radar.”
No, you can't. He is the "new" GOP. There is no party; only a cult.
Yes, those who follow Biden are cultish losers.
New Zealander is an obtuse mental midget.
Those who "follow" Biden are the majority of American voters who elected him over Trump. But the cult of Trump believes an election lie and would overthrow a legitimately elected leader. That is where America - and the Republican Party - is.
However, it is obscene and 3rd world banana republic BS to try to prosecute him for "crimes" that were completely ignored in the past by the corrupt DoJ and FBI.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
The issue for the DOJ is whether Trump broke the law and in particular the criminal law. If the evidence convincingly says he did he cannot escape prosecution: the DOJ will be required to bring charges. For the DOJ to do otherwise would be in breach of its statutory role. Any "mea culpas" he might make cannot avoid that; they are effectively an admission of guilt. The only advantage for him would be towards a possible reduction in penalty. But we are left then with a former POTUS with a criminal conviction.
From a comment made by a intelligent Yahoo News reader:
"When the president takes nonpersonal records after he leaves office he must receive an exemption from the National Archive to do so legally. Otherwise, he commits a felony under 18 USC 2071 because he violated the Presidential Records Act. Further, if a president takes sensitive records that can be detrimental to our national defense, and he does so and retains them without any authorization he is committing a felony under 18 USC 793 (Espionage Act).
Hey moron, no other President/former President has ever stolen top secret and classified documents from the US Government before. And then, he didn't just steal them, he returned some and lied about not having any more. Then he and his lawyers engaged in talks that went nowhere to get the rest back, and he ignored TWO subpoenas.
He can't do that. It's not his sh!t. Nothing like that has ever happened before, so it is impossible for it to have been ignored in the past.
Your brain doesn't work like the brains of smart people. Idiot.
What happened to the 10,000 files that were destroyed from the archives by Obama?
Hey moron, no other President/former President has ever stolen top secret and classified documents from the US Government before. And then, he didn't just steal them, he returned some and lied about not having any more. Then he and his lawyers engaged in talks that went nowhere to get the rest back, and he ignored TWO subpoenas.
He can't do that. It's not his sh!t. Nothing like that has ever happened before, so it is impossible for it to have been ignored in the past.
Your brain doesn't work like the brains of smart people. Idiot.
What happened to the 10,000 files that were destroyed from the archives by Obama?
I'll give you a hint - you watch too much far right crap and take it hook line and sinker.
I believe you are referring to the classified information found on Hillary Clinton's email server. The FBI didn't "completely Ignore" that. They investigated it. Remember? Just the announcement that the FBI were investigating it probably cost Clinton the election. THE DOJ didn't ignore it either. They both looked at and found all kind of adverse things regarding Clinton, but decided prosecution wasn't worth it because she cooperated and none of it appeared a deliberate attempt to harm the country. Both the FBI and the DOJ could have re-opened any investigation they wanted over the last 6 years, by the way. Sessions, Barr, McCabe, Wray, any of them could have continued the Clinton investigation. They chose not to.
Trump hasn't been charged. A search warrant was issued for his compound to seize documents that he refused to return to the custody of the US government. It's not too late for Trump to escape prosecution on this. Get a few decent lawyers and do some mea culpas and shut up about the whole thing, and I'm sure a confidential deal can be worked out where Trump skates. Is he capable of that? Probably not. He lives for conflict and drama, and the high he gets when his fans start jumping up and down. That's how Trump has to get his high, because he doesn't drink booze. Which always seemed kind of poncey to me. I don't trust people who don't drink. Like, what's wrong with them? That's what I ask whenever I see some muff drinking a NA beer. I point and say to the bar in general "whitdafock is with this guy, eh?"
The issue for the DOJ is whether Trump broke the law and in particular the criminal law. If the evidence convincingly says he did he cannot escape prosecution: the DOJ will be required to bring charges. For the DOJ to do otherwise would be in breach of its statutory role. Any "mea culpas" he might make cannot avoid that; they are effectively an admission of guilt. The only advantage for him would be towards a possible reduction in penalty. But we are left then with a former POTUS with a criminal conviction.
Anyone who wasn't in a coma and has an IQ over 85 knows that the DoJ won't bring charges if it doesn't want to. With Clinton it didn't want to. With Trump it's been hunting and fabricating reasons for 6 years.
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