Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

You never learn.

Anthony Weiner (D-NY) pled guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor. Sentenced to 21 months in prison and will need to register as a sex offender for the remainder of his life.

Chaka Fattah (D-PA) convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud and corruption

Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pled guilty to wire and and mail fraud

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) convicted on 11 counts of bribery

Frank Balance (D-NC) pled guilty to money laundering and mail fraud

Jim Traficant (D-OH) convicted of ten felonies counts of financial corruption

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Reserve Affairs, sentenced to 37 months prison for possession of child pornography

Darleen Dryuyn (D), Principal Deputy Undersecretary of the Air Force, pled guilty to inflating price of contracts to favor future employer

Mel Reynolds (D-IL), convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography

Austin Murphy (D-PA) convicted of voter fraud

Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) convicted on three federal felony corruption charges

Terry Spicer (D-AL) pled guilty to accepting more thank $3000 per month in bribes

Richard Miranda (D-AZ) pled guilty to wire fraud and tax evasion

Ben Arredondo (D-AZ) sentenced to 18 months house arrest for bribery, fraud and extortion

Octavio Garcia Von Borstel (D-AZ) convicted of bribery charges, sentenced to 42 months in prison

Steven B. Jones (D-AR) convicted of bribery

Paul Bookout (D-AR) pled guilty to mail fraud

Martha Shoffner (D-AR) convicted of extortion and bribery and sentenced to 30 months in prison

Hudson Hallum (D-AR) pled guilty to boter bribing

Ron Calderon (D-CA) and Tom Calderon (D-CA), both convicted of money laundering

Leland Yee (D-CA) pled guilty to felony racketeering, public corruption and bribery and sentenced to five years in federal prison

Roderick Wright (D-CA) convicted on eight counts of perjury and voter fraud

Mary Hayashi (D-CA) convicted of grand theft on shoplifting charges

Bob Finer (D-CA) pled guilty to false imprisonment and battery

Victor Cuevas (D-CT) convicted of bank fraud

Ernie Newton (D-CT) sentenced to six months in prison for three counts of illegal campaign finance practices

Thomas Gaffey (D-CT) pled guilty to larceny

Eddie Perez (D-CT) sentenced to three years in prison for corruption

Dwayne Taylor (D-FL) convicted of fraud

M. Mandy Dawson (D-FL) convicted of fraud

Patricia Christensen (D-FL) convicted of theft of campaign funds

Lucie Tondreau (D-FL) convicted of mortgage fraud

Charles Walker (D-GA) convicted of 127 felony charges

Rod Tam (D-HI) jailed for theft

Keith Farnham (D-IL) convicted of distributing child pornography

Derrick Smith (D-IL) convicted of accepting a $7000 bribe

La Shawn K. Ford (D-IL) pled guilty to misdemeanor tax charge

Constance A. Howard (D-IL) convicted of mail fraud

William Beavers (D-IL) convicted of tax fraud

Sandi Jackson (D-IL) pled guilty to filing false tax returns

Rita Crundwell (D-IL) sentenced to over 19 years in prison for fraud

Isaac Carothers (D-IL) convicted of corruption

George Pabey (D-IL) convicted of theft of government funds

Keith Hall (D-KY) convicted of bribery, sentenced to seven years in prison

Girod Jackson III (D-LA) convicted of tax evasion

Ray Nagin (D-LA) convicted on 20 counts of bribery, sentenced to ten years in federal prison

Tommy Nelson (D-LA) convicted on racketeering

Jack B. Johnson (D-MD) pled guilty to extortion and witness and evidence tampering and sentenced to seven years in prison

Leslie Johnson (D-MD) sentenced to one year in prison for corruption

Sheila Dixon (D-MD) convicted of fraudulent misappropriation

Carlos Henriquez (D-MA) convicted on two counts of assault and battery

Stephen Stat Smith (D-MA) pled guilty to misdemeanor counts of deprivation of rights under color of law

Salvatore DiMasi (D-MA) convicted of using his office to secure state contracts in exchange for kickbacks

Anthony D. Galluccio (D-MA) sentenced to one year in prison for violating parole from previous hit and run conviction

Briand Banks (D-MI) convicted of fraud for filing false financial statements

Virgil Smith, Jr. (D-MI) convicted of assault and sentenced to 10 months in jail

Diane Hathaway (D-MI) sentenced to one year in prison for mortgage fraud

Stuart Dunnings III (D-MI) convicted of misconduct

Kwame Kilpatrick (D-MI) sentenced to 28 years in prison for racketeering and extortion

Monica Conyers (D-MI) served 27 months in federal prison for bribery

Bobby DeLaughter (D-MS) sentenced to 18 months in prison for lying to federal investigators

Roger B. Wilson (D-MO) convicted of money laundering

Tony Belcourt (D-MT) convicted on four federal corruption charges

Steven Brooks (D-NV) convicted on making threats to kill

Alberto Coutinho (D-NJ) convicted of theft and falsifying records

Neil M. Cohen (D-NJ) convicted of child endangerment by way of distribution of child pornography

Anthony Chiappone (D-NJ) convicted of filing false campaign reports

Tony F. Mack (D-NJ) sentenced to nearly five years in prison for bribery, fraud, extortion and money laundering

Joseph Vas (D-NJ) sentenced to over six years in prison for mail fraud, misappropriation of funds and lying to federal investigators

Sheldon Silver (D-NY) convicted of federal corruption

John L. Sampson (D-NY) convicted of obstructing justice and making false statements

Malcolm Smith (D-NY) found guilty of conspiracy, wire fraud, bribery and extortion

Gabriela Rosa (D-NY) sentenced to one year in prison for immigration fraud

William Boyland, Jr. (D-NY) convicted of bribery

Eric Stevenson (D-NY) convicted of bribery and corruption

Nelson Castro (D-NY) convicted of perjury

Shirley Huntley (D-NY) convicted of mail fraud

Vito Lopez (D-NY) convicted of groping and intimidating staffers

Pedro Espalda, Jr. (D-NY) sentenced to five years in prison for embezzlement

Alan Hevesi (D-NY) sentenced to one to four years in prison for pay to play charges

Carl Kruger (D-NY) pled guilty to corruption and bribery

Efrain Gonzalez, Jr. (D-NY) sentenced to seven years in federal prison for fraud and embezzlement

Deb McManus (D-NC) pled guilty to tax charges

Mike Easley (D-NC) convicted of federal campaign felony

Ron Gerberry (D-OH) found guilty of unlawful compensation of a public official

Sandra Williams (D-OH) convicted of filing a false report

Clayton Luckie (D-OH) convicted of corruption

W. Carlton Weddington (D-OH) sentenced to three years in prison for bribery

Debbe Leftwich (D-OK) found guilty of bribery

Mike Morgan (D-OK) found guilty of accepting more than $12,000 in bribes

Leslie Acosta (D-PA) convicted of embezzlement

Kathleen Kane (D-PA) convicted of perjury

Louise Bishop (D-PA) convicted of corruption

Michelle Brownlee (D-PA) convicted of conflict of interest

Harold James (D-PA) convicted of corruption

Ronald Waters (D-PA) convicted of bribery

Rob McCord (D-PA) pled guilty to two counts of extortion

LeAnna Washington (D-PA) convicted of conflict of interest

Mitchell Rubin (D-PA) sentenced to 24 months in prison for commercial bribery

Jose Miranda (D-PA) convicted of fraud

Joseph Brennan (D-PA) convicted on two counts of drunk driving

Stephen Stetler (D-PA) convicted of using state resources

Stephen R. Reed (D-PA) pled guilty to 20 felony and misdemeanor counts of receiving stolen property

Gordon Fox (D-RI) pled guilty to wire fraud, bribery and filing false tax returns

Leon Tejada (D-RI) convicted of tax fraud

Patrick McDonald (D-RI) convicted of embezzlement

John McCauley, Jr. (D-RI) convicted of tax evasion

Leo Medina (D-RI) convicted of stealing life insurance

Christopher Maselli (D-RI) convicted of bank fraud

Joe E. Armstrong (D-TN) convicted of falsifying tax returns

Michael Brown (D-DC) sentenced to 39 months in prison for bribery

Kwame R. Brown (D-DC) convicted of bank fraud

Harry Thomas, Jr. (D-DC) convicted of felony counts of theft of public funds and falsifying tax returns

As the kids USED to say - "pwned"

Big Dersh wrote:

Democrat Derschowitz keepin it real:

DERSHOWITZ: "I think he has lost perspective. And I think that that happens when overzealous prosecutors are given a target. And the concern now is that there won't be cooperation. I think we will now see a scorched earth policy on both sides.

Look, I don't give advice to the president except on television if he wants to listen, he can listen. But if I were the president, I would at least seriously consider going to court tomorrow, seeking to have a judge get ahold of all the lawyer-client material, take it away from the prosecutor, take it away from the FBI. Don't let an FBI agent look at any of them.

Have the judge go through it and have the judge make a determination as to whether there is anything in there that is lawyer-client privilege.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/09/dershowitz_on_cohen_if_this_were_hillary_clinton_aclu_would_freak_out_at_overzealous_mueller.html

Trollminator wrote:

Big Dersh wrote:

Democrat Derschowitz keepin it real:

DERSHOWITZ: "I think he has lost perspective. And I think that that happens when overzealous prosecutors are given a target. And the concern now is that there won't be cooperation. I think we will now see a scorched earth policy on both sides.

Look, I don't give advice to the president except on television if he wants to listen, he can listen. But if I were the president, I would at least seriously consider going to court tomorrow, seeking to have a judge get ahold of all the lawyer-client material, take it away from the prosecutor, take it away from the FBI. Don't let an FBI agent look at any of them.

Have the judge go through it and have the judge make a determination as to whether there is anything in there that is lawyer-client privilege.

The point is the FBI already knew what he had when they made the request to the judge. Dersh is losing it like Gary

DiscoGary wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

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We have a judicial system such that, if law enforcement doesn't follow the law, there are consequences to their case.

...

Really? Like when Obama's Dept of Justice refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers for intimidating voters outside the voting booth because Attorney General Eric Holder didn't want to prosecute black people.

Law enforcement didn't follow it's own law. Where were the consequences?

There are so many examples like this, and I know, I KNOW liberals can't see their own hypocrisy. You can't see the double standards. You can't see the unfairness and injustice of it all. I get it.

I'm trying to explain to you that conservatives CAN see it. Trump supporters CAN see it. We can see that Obama went for 8 years with constant corruption and scandals happening, but with no serious investigations and no consequences. We can see that Hillary had her multi-billion dollar pay-for-play foundation running in broad daylight for years, with no serious investigation or consequences. All these exalted FBI investigators and embedded secret judges never saw the need to dig into any of that.

... and then to watch Trump get run out office because one of our hallowed "judges" has determined that Cohen's payment of $130,000 to Daniels was some kind of illegal campaign donation? ... or because of some perjury trap? I'm telling you the injustice of that will be a breaking point.

There should be reasonable Democrats warning everyone about this. I'm throwing the red flag here. If you win, you lose.

privilege log wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

The point is the FBI already knew what he had when they made the request to the judge. Dersh is losing it like Gary

An independent team of attorneys - having no connection to Mueller investigation - will create what is called a "privilege log" from the seized documents. This document is used by attorneys on both sides to argue whether a document, or parts of a documents, qualify for attorney-client privilege. General objections, and blanket objections by the attorney(s) representing the attorney, or client, are not acceptable. The same holds true for the attorney(s) trying to claim something is not subject to attorney-client privilege. The legal bar for documents that are deemed waive attorney-client privilege is one of the highest there can be, So, while Tump wails away, he needs to realize that his broad-brush wail is absolutely worthless. And Trump needs to realize that proper attorney-client privilege documents will never see the light of day; Mueller will never see them as they are not part of his investigation, but other attorneys will see them and prosecute accordingly.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Really? Like when Obama's Dept of Justice refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers for intimidating voters outside the voting booth because Attorney General Eric Holder didn't want to prosecute black people.

Law enforcement didn't follow it's own law. Where were the consequences?

There are so many examples like this, and I know, I KNOW liberals can't see their own hypocrisy. You can't see the double standards. You can't see the unfairness and injustice of it all. I get it.

I'm trying to explain to you that conservatives CAN see it. Trump supporters CAN see it. We can see that Obama went for 8 years with constant corruption and scandals happening, but with no serious investigations and no consequences. We can see that Hillary had her multi-billion dollar pay-for-play foundation running in broad daylight for years, with no serious investigation or consequences. All these exalted FBI investigators and embedded secret judges never saw the need to dig into any of that.

... and then to watch Trump get run out office because one of our hallowed "judges" has determined that Cohen's payment of $130,000 to Daniels was some kind of illegal campaign donation? ... or because of some perjury trap? I'm telling you the injustice of that will be a breaking point.

There should be reasonable Democrats warning everyone about this. I'm throwing the red flag here. If you win, you lose.

No one is running anyone out of office. While the deck is certainly stacked, and the Republicans are spineless........... Trump will prevail, like it or not. Despite the panty wearing liberals......oh sorry meant to say "snowflakes" desires otherwise.

Trollminator wrote:

Gary again bankrupt of any detail or evidence. Let me shed some light on the Cohen situation for you. My explanation won't be quite Barney style, but it will be simple enough.

1. Here is what Cohen has said:

- he made the $130k payment out of his own pocket

- he took out a home equity line of credit to make this payment

- he had no contact with Trump or Trump associates regarding such payment

- he had no expectation he would be paid back

- he didn't even believe Stormy, but made the payment just to protect his friend

- he made the payment 11 days before the election and set up the company 2 weeks before that, but that the timing of the payment was purely coincidental

2. You can believe that a) he is telling the truth, in which case only an investigation can save him given the above information which points to the opposite, or b) that he is lying, in which case either he, Trump or both committed at the least the crime of violating campaign financing regulation

3. Say you believe he's telling the truth and you think the raid was unlawful. Invoking attorney-client privilege over the confiscated communication documents is only valid if a) the crime-fraud exception isn't a factor, or b) there were actual attorney-client communications to begin with. If you believe Cohen then it's b) since those communications never took place so by default they are not privileged.

So which one is it? Do you believe Cohen or not? If you do, then take comfort that the raid was lawful since attorney-client privilege doesn't even apply. Or if you don't believe him then you surely must want to get to the truth. Either he is lying or Trump is lying. Since justice and truth are so important to you, then do not despair, they will get to the truth.

By the way, the bar for issuing a search warrant for an attorney is pretty high. You should be happy they did this, since Trump isn't at fault (or Cohen) then any unrelated evidence of wrong doing they find may be inadmissible later due to the manner by which it was obtained.

Gary, you should be celebrating!

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Gary again bankrupt of any detail or evidence. Let me shed some light on the Cohen situation for you. My explanation won't be quite Barney style, but it will be simple enough.

1. Here is what Cohen has said:

- he made the $130k payment out of his own pocket

- he took out a home equity line of credit to make this payment

- he had no contact with Trump or Trump associates regarding such payment

- he had no expectation he would be paid back

- he didn't even believe Stormy, but made the payment just to protect his friend

- he made the payment 11 days before the election and set up the company 2 weeks before that, but that the timing of the payment was purely coincidental

2. You can believe that a) he is telling the truth, in which case only an investigation can save him given the above information which points to the opposite, or b) that he is lying, in which case either he, Trump or both committed at the least the crime of violating campaign financing regulation

3. Say you believe he's telling the truth and you think the raid was unlawful. Invoking attorney-client privilege over the confiscated communication documents is only valid if a) the crime-fraud exception isn't a factor, or b) there were actual attorney-client communications to begin with. If you believe Cohen then it's b) since those communications never took place so by default they are not privileged.

So which one is it? Do you believe Cohen or not? If you do, then take comfort that the raid was lawful since attorney-client privilege doesn't even apply. Or if you don't believe him then you surely must want to get to the truth. Either he is lying or Trump is lying. Since justice and truth are so important to you, then do not despair, they will get to the truth.

By the way, the bar for issuing a search warrant for an attorney is pretty high. You should be happy they did this, since Trump isn't at fault (or Cohen) then any unrelated evidence of wrong doing they find may be inadmissible later due to the manner by which it was obtained.

Gary, you should be celebrating!

I'm sure he is. Interesting how the investigation is now centered on Trumps dalliance with Ms. Daniels. My how far we have come from a "Russian Collusion" investigation. Maybe she's really "Natasha", of Rocky and Bullwinkle fame. Boris must be close by.