Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

DiscoGary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Office of Cohen has been raided by FBI... the wheels are about to come off

Wait. I thought there was something called attorney/client privilege. This is why Hillary labelled most of her assistants "lawyers", so that they could not be compelled to testify against her.

I imagine that Trump has lots of lawyers. If Cohen is an important one, meaning that he has records for all Trump's business dealings, then Trump should fire Mueller now and put an end to this, because the whole purpose is destroy everyone who has ever done business with Trump to force Trump to resign.

If this is just about a Stormy Daniels payoff, then it will help Trump no matter how it turns out.

Gary how does it feel to be so omniscient, if not almost godlike? I wonder if there is a classification for your order of delusion. Nevertheless it's interesting to watch your convolutions.

DiscoGary wrote:

Right. Like the illegal raid on Manafort's house that was given the retro-active OK from Rosenstein after many conservative commentators pointed out that Mueller didn't have authority to make that raid. That was the beginning of the end, right? Oh wait. It was just another perjury trap. So far there were no crimes until this Mueller persecution came along.

If it's just Stormy, then it's going nowhere. Your head might explode, but Americans won't care.

We've already done this. It's "all about sex" right? Even if Trump perjures himself, he still has to remain President, just like good ole Bill did. Anything else would be unfair.

D E L U S I O N A L.

Or 'bat sh*t crazy' as my friend would say.

DiscoGary wrote:

We've already done this. It's "all about sex" right? Even if Trump perjures himself, he still has to remain President, just like good ole Bill did. Anything else would be unfair.

Or until January 3, 2019...

A Democratic House will effectively end his Presidency. If we are lucky enough to get a Democratic Senate as well, Trump will spend the last 2 years of his Presidency golfing. (pretty much the same as the first 2 years, but with much less damage to our country).

DiscoGary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Office of Cohen has been raided by FBI... the wheels are about to come off

Wait. I thought there was something called attorney/client privilege. This is why Hillary labelled most of her assistants "lawyers", so that they could not be compelled to testify against her.

I imagine that Trump has lots of lawyers. If Cohen is an important one, meaning that he has records for all Trump's business dealings, then Trump should fire Mueller now and put an end to this, because the whole purpose is destroy everyone who has ever done business with Trump to force Trump to resign.

If this is just about a Stormy Daniels payoff, then it will help Trump no matter how it turns out.

Agreed, Trump shouldn't worry since he said he had no knowledge of the payment. He was telling the truth of course and that will be corroborated by any relevant evidence discovered in this raid.

Flagpole wrote:

Ground Slitherer Trump wrote:

Indeed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html

I am not surprised that it has come to this, but this is a good step. There are a bunch of steps still necessary that will happen.

Kushner will be indicted.

Trump Jr. will be indicted.

Roger Stone will be indicted.

Likely some others too before the big fish is caught.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Anticipation intensifies...

Dude, you are in such HUGE denial.

Perjury is bad of course no matter what is being lied about, but context has some play here. Lying about having sex with an intern and lying about having sex with a porn star where there was hush money payment that might have violated campaign finance laws are two very different things.

Also, if Cohen gets pulled more into the Russia investigation, it could very well be the thing that spells the end for Trump...something will, because his end is coming. For some reason one of you Trumpers always posts that Mueller isn't coming, but this is clearly evidence that he is.

IF you are lucky, Mueller is coming just to bring a cake, but I'm pretty sure that's not it.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

When is there ever a breaking news story that says that Trump is a great guy?

Never.

Because he isn't.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

.... and when was there ever a news story that Obama was a bad guy?

Hmmm. One guy is reported to be 100% bad, the other 100% good. Well SHAZAYAM!!! What are the chances?!

I can't believe you don't see the media bias. That's the reason OK. The MSM is 100% Democrat/liberal. They are ALL on your side. That's the answer to this seeming impossible coincidence. Got it?

Have to be a bad guy for a legitimate media outlet to do a story that says you are one. For the record though, CNN's Jake Tapper gave Obama a hard time on many fronts. Of course, not to the level that Trump gets, but Trump is a criminal, and he has appointed the worst people to work for him, and many of them have proven to be unethical.

You want to equate Obama and Trump in some way, and other than the fact they are both human males who have also been president, there is no comparison. Obama was smart, knowledgeable, a student of the job he was in, and an upstanding person. Trump is none of those things.

This isn't an evil media picking on Trump and leaving Obama alone. Trump's actions have brought on the constant barrage of negative press, and really, the press isn't negative...it is just reporting the actions of Trump. Trump's ACTIONS are what are negative.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

(P. S. some of you Trumpers who have said I don't know anything can start walking back those comments now, and I MIGHT just leave you out of the "I Told You So" post that is coming from me one of these days.)

AND, as I have always said, those of us on the correct side of this issue will gladly welcome those of you who have finally realized you have been taken for fools. Do that, and we will not call you fools any longer. A fool is someone who doesn't change their behavior when it is crystal clear that they need to. Allegiance to Trump at this point is clearly foolish. I give to you the out.

Noticer of dominance wrote:

Having your personal lawyer's office get raided by the FBI typically isn't a good look.

...to say the least.

Understand, this "raid" would have been authorized by a judge--and the judge would have to have been presented with *considerably* stronger evidence than "We think maybe..." in order to authorize such a breach.

Most of my legal work involves attorney-client privilege, and that privilege is one of the highest principles of American law. For a judge to have authorized breaching it...as you say, not a good look. Yikes.

And FWIW at first blush this appears (my opinion could change with more info) to be fully within the scope of Mueller's mandate. Similarly, a blow job in the Oval was within the scope of Clinton's special counsel's.

You're good man, Flagpole. I'm not giving any of these Trumper clowns a way out! It has been crystal clear for months to anyone paying attention.

BTW, today's news is BIGLY BAD news for Trump. Ample evidence was shown to a judge to warrant the search. And they were not required to tell Cohen in advance. Not good for Cohen or Trump. BIGLY BAD. Although the raid was done by the FBI, ultimately we will see Cohen charged with state crimes as well. Non-pardonable crimes. Cohen won't spend eternity in prison to protect Trump.

Gary seems to have forgotten that Obama was labeled an unamerican anti-Christ for 8 years by FOX.

Federal agents raided the New York offices of President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, Cohen’s own attorney Stephen Ryan said.

Ryan said the action was taken in part on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“The decision by the US attorney’s office in New York to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary,” Ryan said.

“It resulted in the unnecessary seizure of protected attorney-client communications between a lawyer and his clients.”

Just as I thought. Lawlessness.

nontrumper wrote:

You're good man, Flagpole. I'm not giving any of these Trumper clowns a way out! It has been crystal clear for months to anyone paying attention.

BTW, today's news is BIGLY BAD news for Trump. Ample evidence was shown to a judge to warrant the search. And they were not required to tell Cohen in advance. Not good for Cohen or Trump. BIGLY BAD. Although the raid was done by the FBI, ultimately we will see Cohen charged with state crimes as well. Non-pardonable crimes. Cohen won't spend eternity in prison to protect Trump.

OK, I'm just going to lay out some facts here, and it'll be fun to see how you twist the them into yet ANOTHER time that "Trump is finished".

We now have BREAKING NEWS that the FBI- which is supposed to be investigating Russian influence and possible collusion with the Trump campaign- has raided the home/office of Trump's lawyer in search of documentation regarding the payoff of a porn star that Trump supposedly had sex with one time.

This does not help the legitimacy image of the investigation to most [non-frothing at the mouth Liberal] Americans. "Porn star" tends to reduce the seriousness of investigations in most people's minds. Especially investigations that are supposed to be about major geopolitical conspiracies.

Folks, just two weeks ago there was a Primetime Sunday show that interviewed the subject porn star for 45 minutes..... and Trump's approval rating have GONE UP SINCE THEN, across the board. (I'm not saying it's because of it- I'm saying no one cares.)

The "Mueller Investigation" is supposed to be about Russian influencing our election, and whether or not the Trump campaign colluded with them. To this day, not a single American has been indicted for any collusion or conspiracy related to the 2016 election. The only charges have been lying or misleading during the FBI's interview. Manafort's indictments are all prior to or not related to the campaign. Same with Gates. Same with Tony Podesta, who will be indicted soon.

Meanwhile, actual hard evidence has surfaced regarding the legitimacy of the investigation itself, stemming from the McCabe/Strosk/Page conspiracy, which will become even more exposed in the coming months from the second investigation.

I predict a massive Flapolian Flop. You haven't been correct since Nov 2016. So, in a possible violation of attorney-client privilege, the FBI took documents concerning payments to a prostitute. If this is all you have concerning Russian Collusion, you're toast again.

Mueller is never coming and I WILL be merciless with the "I told you so's"

Flagpole is the clown.

DiscoGary wrote:

Federal agents raided the New York offices of President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, Cohen’s own attorney Stephen Ryan said.

Ryan said the action was taken in part on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“The decision by the US attorney’s office in New York to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary,” Ryan said.

“It resulted in the unnecessary seizure of protected attorney-client communications between a lawyer and his clients.”

Just as I thought. Lawlessness.

Above the Law? wrote:

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Meanwhile, actual hard evidence has surfaced regarding the legitimacy of the investigation itself, stemming from the McCabe/Strosk/Page conspiracy, which will become even more exposed in the coming months from the second investigation.

Oh don't do that. NEVER allow yourself to believe for one second that Democrat's crimes will see justice or that our corrupt government will be held accountable. THAT is the path to insanity! I can give you a Flagpolian guarantee that it will never happen.

No. The best we hope for is that the crimes, injustice, and corruption STOP due to the sunlight shining on them. If even that happens, then we celebrate.

DiscoGary wrote:

Federal agents raided the New York offices of President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, Cohen’s own attorney Stephen Ryan said.

Ryan said the action was taken in part on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“The decision by the US attorney’s office in New York to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary,” Ryan said.

“It resulted in the unnecessary seizure of protected attorney-client communications between a lawyer and his clients.”

Just as I thought. Lawlessness.

Crime-Fraud wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Federal agents raided the New York offices of President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, Cohen’s own attorney Stephen Ryan said.

Ryan said the action was taken in part on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“The decision by the US attorney’s office in New York to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary,” Ryan said.

“It resulted in the unnecessary seizure of protected attorney-client communications between a lawyer and his clients.”

Just as I thought. Lawlessness.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html

Attorney-client protected Hillary, but it won't protect Trump. Yeah. I get it. Attorney-client protections are very serious. If they violate that ... what am I talking about. This isn't a legal proceeding. This is a political persecution. Laws don't matter here as I keep saying.

... and 100% of Obama news was positive, and 100% of Trump news is negative! That's all you need to know.

DiscoGary wrote:

Federal agents raided the New York offices of President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, Cohen’s own attorney Stephen Ryan said.

Ryan said the action was taken in part on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“The decision by the US attorney’s office in New York to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary,” Ryan said.

“It resulted in the unnecessary seizure of protected attorney-client communications between a lawyer and his clients.”

Just as I thought. Lawlessness.

Well what did you expect Cohen's attorney to say? Did you expect him to say that the raid was lawful and proper?

Quotes from Stephen Ryan are meaningless.

The decision of the judge who issued the warrant is not.

If you are worried about lawlessness, you place your faith in the judge rather than the defense attorney.

Whoa, whoa- you're stating it too favorably for Flagpole. You say "haven't been correct since Nov 2016." That makes it sound as if he was correct in Nov 2016. Obviously he was devastatingly wrong.

He actually has been wrong continuously since early 2016, when the polls seemed to be signaling a clear, dominating victory for Hillary. So he was wrong all through 2016. Then he disappeared for a while for some reeason. Then came back in early 2017 when the investigation rumors began swirling and has been wrong ever since.

Mueller isn't coming.

Flagpole is still the clown.