agip wrote:
Bring back Pete Buttigieg and let him figure out how to run the transport system.
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
My God, in all of this time just today, you could have just read the Constitution instead of making a fool of yourself all day.
Who does the very first word of the Constitution represent? that is the only question that needs an answer. Who is the “We”?
It’s “the people” - as in all the people in the United States. Glad we could clear that up. Still waiting for you to post any legal precedent that the 5th amendment doesn’t apply to aliens.
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
It’s “the people” - as in all the people in the United States. Glad we could clear that up. Still waiting for you to post any legal precedent that the 5th amendment doesn’t apply to aliens.
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
And why did the founders kill thousands of redcoats in this country after the D of I? why were they not arrested w due process? the war was over, the papers were written and before we had liberal judges, what did we do? we found and killed then. that’s what the Founding Fathers did. And they wrote the papers for us.
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
Let me try again by asking you a very simple question. Does the 5th Amendment protect all people in the United States from deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law? Or does the 5th Amendment only protect US citizens from deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law?
My God, in all of this time just today, you could have just read the Constitution instead of making a fool of yourself all day.
Who does the very first word of the Constitution represent? that is the only question that needs an answer. Who is the “We”?
Is yinz still discussing the Kilmar Abrego case? I'm not aware of any of those decisions referring to the preamble of the Constitution or interpreting the word "We." Certainly none of them said, as you appear to believe, "that is the only question that needs an answer." That would be nuts, dude. That would be like spazzo-retard law or something. American courts don't engage in such law. They're much more sophisticated and on the ball.
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
It’s “the people” - as in all the people in the United States. Glad we could clear that up. Still waiting for you to post any legal precedent that the 5th amendment doesn’t apply to aliens.
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
I also went to wikipedia and found the term "citizen". Are you familiar with it? The people that wrote The Constitution were (because they spoke pretty fluent English as you so inarticulately phrased it). They would have said CITIZEN, but they said PEOPLE. Big difference.
Again, just post some legal precedent to show that due process protections of the 5th amendment only apply to citizens. Until then, you're telling us what you want The Constitution to mean, not what it actually means. I know it hurts to get schooled like this, but The Constitution doesn't care about your opinion and judges are going to keep spanking the Trump administration.
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
I also went to wikipedia and found the term "citizen". Are you familiar with it? The people that wrote The Constitution were (because they spoke pretty fluent English as you so inarticulately phrased it). They would have said CITIZEN, but they said PEOPLE. Big difference.
Again, just post some legal precedent to show that due process protections of the 5th amendment only apply to citizens. Until then, you're telling us what you want The Constitution to mean, not what it actually means. I know it hurts to get schooled like this, but The Constitution doesn't care about your opinion and judges are going to keep spanking the Trump administration.
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them?
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
It’s “the people” - as in all the people in the United States. Glad we could clear that up. Still waiting for you to post any legal precedent that the 5th amendment doesn’t apply to aliens.
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
So shoot first and ask questions later?
You have due process to make sure are not making a mistake. If ICE wants to deport Noyankee to El Salvador, would you not like the opportunity to prove your legal status?
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how about that. wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Wow, you got it. The People of the United States. Not visiting Mexicans, or fence jumping Venezuelans, for they are not People of the United States anymore than I am a person of Thailand.
Else, since they spoke pretty fluent English, they would have said IN, but they said OF. Big difference. Go back to Wikipedia and study those 2 terms. If I go to Vietnam, I am in Vietnam. I am not a person OF Vietnam.
Then ask yourself, why do we have Custom's agents? And why do Countries issue passports?
I know it hurts you to get schooled like this, but we did not give the Red Coats due process did we? We killed them, point blank. No questions. No liberal judges deciding the fate of our Country. We gunned them down.
Why didn’t we just arrest them?
So shoot first and ask questions later?
You have due process to make sure are not making a mistake. If ICE wants to deport Noyankee to El Salvador, would you not like the opportunity to prove your legal status?
👆another dreamer, since the Japanese dude can’t answer, maybe you can cover?
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them after the War ended and the Constitution was written?
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
I also went to wikipedia and found the term "citizen". Are you familiar with it? The people that wrote The Constitution were (because they spoke pretty fluent English as you so inarticulately phrased it). They would have said CITIZEN, but they said PEOPLE. Big difference.
Again, just post some legal precedent to show that due process protections of the 5th amendment only apply to citizens. Until then, you're telling us what you want The Constitution to mean, not what it actually means. I know it hurts to get schooled like this, but The Constitution doesn't care about your opinion and judges are going to keep spanking the Trump administration.
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them?
Actually, John Adams defended a bunch of Redcoats after the Boston Massacre of 1770, believing they were entitled to a fair trial (6 were acquitted, 2 were convicted of manslaughter).
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Noyankee wrote:
how about that. wrote:
So shoot first and ask questions later?
You have due process to make sure are not making a mistake. If ICE wants to deport Noyankee to El Salvador, would you not like the opportunity to prove your legal status?
👆another dreamer, since the Japanese dude can’t answer, maybe you can cover?
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them after the War ended and the Constitution was written?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Why do you not want due process? Without due process you will not have the opportunity to prove your citizenship or legal status.
When ICE comes knocking on your door, you'll want due process.
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Noyankee wrote:
how about that. wrote:
So shoot first and ask questions later?
You have due process to make sure are not making a mistake. If ICE wants to deport Noyankee to El Salvador, would you not like the opportunity to prove your legal status?
👆another dreamer, since the Japanese dude can’t answer, maybe you can cover?
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them after the War ended and the Constitution was written?
Nobody is answering your question because it's a stupid irrelevant question being asked by a stupid irrelevant moron. The relevant question is, what legal precedent shows that the 5th amendment only applies to citizens?
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Noyankee wrote:
And why did the founders kill thousands of redcoats in this country after the D of I? why were they not arrested w due process? the war was over, the papers were written and before we had liberal judges, what did we do? we found and killed then. that’s what the Founding Fathers did. And they wrote the papers for us.
You think "the war was over" once the "D of I" was signed?
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them?
Actually, John Adams defended a bunch of Redcoats after the Boston Massacre of 1770, believing they were entitled to a fair trial (6 were acquitted, 2 were convicted of manslaughter).
John Adam’s had it wrong. In case you forgot, we are referring to the US Constitution. The Constitution was written years after and he was outnumbered when the ink hit the paper so,
Why did we kill Redcoats AFTER the Constitution was written, and not arrest them?
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
Actually, John Adams defended a bunch of Redcoats after the Boston Massacre of 1770, believing they were entitled to a fair trial (6 were acquitted, 2 were convicted of manslaughter).
John Adam’s had it wrong.
That's just an opinion, which you're more than welcome to. But, it's not a fact.
Still waiting for you to provide legal precedents regarding the 5th amendment only applying to US citizens.
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
👆another dreamer, since the Japanese dude can’t answer, maybe you can cover?
Why did we kill the Redcoats and not arrest them after the War ended and the Constitution was written?
Nobody is answering your question because it's a stupid irrelevant question being asked by a stupid irrelevant moron. The relevant question is, what legal precedent shows that the 5th amendment only applies to citizens?
Nobody is answering the question because I won the debate, and dropped the mic. That is a wrap. You were a decent challenger but, in the end, hang your head in defeat.
Americans killed Redcoats after the ratification of the Constitution without any thought of your version of due process. You see, in the end, we did not write the Constitution for them, as they were not citizens.
You are welcome.
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Noyankee wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
Nobody is answering your question because it's a stupid irrelevant question being asked by a stupid irrelevant moron. The relevant question is, what legal precedent shows that the 5th amendment only applies to citizens?
Nobody is answering the question because I won the debate, and dropped the mic. That is a wrap. You were a decent challenger but, in the end, hang your head in defeat.
Americans killed Redcoats after the ratification of the Constitution without any thought of your version of due process. You see, in the end, we did not write the Constitution for them, as they were not citizens.
You are welcome.
United States v. Wing Wang Doodle.
United Stated v. Wingy Dingy Ding Ding
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Noyankee wrote:
John Adam’s had it wrong. In case you forgot, we are referring to the US Constitution. The Constitution was written years after and he was outnumbered when the ink hit the paper so,
Why did we kill Redcoats AFTER the Constitution was written, and not arrest them?
The Revolutionary War ended in 1783.
The US Constitution was created in 1787 and became effective in 1789.
Do you really not know these things?
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Rea1 0bvi wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
John Adam’s had it wrong. In case you forgot, we are referring to the US Constitution. The Constitution was written years after and he was outnumbered when the ink hit the paper so,
Why did we kill Redcoats AFTER the Constitution was written, and not arrest them?
The Revolutionary War ended in 1783.
The US Constitution was created in 1787 and became effective in 1789.
Do you really not know these things?
He does not. Now that you have enlightened him, he will pretend no one ever answered and he won. His idol is Trump, so he lies, ignores reason, is wrong, and declares victory when he loses.
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Good. America first - no foreign wars!
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