Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

_its_baddude wrote:

The object is not to win a trade war. Trump claims China already won. The object is to create fair trade practices to .... Your argument is dumb. Just like other countries can provide what China wants, like military secrets, other countries or us can provide what China gives us.

Trump IQ45 wrote:

Trump is a complete idiot. He will not win a trade war against China because everything the US can provide them, others can provide.

Trump cried, "I have also instructed the Secretary of Agriculture, with the support of other members of my Cabinet, to use his broad authority to implement a plan to protect our farmers and agricultural interests,”

LOL ... Trump will destroy small US farmers. They will go broke. Meanwhile, agricultural interests (big agra) will swallow up the small farms on the cheap. That is the reality of Trump's stupidity, but maybe that is what he is actually trying to accomplish.

flagpole is the clown wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It is without question collusion. It's the very definition of collusion...Mueller has even more though.

I haven't denied anything. I will admit to having fun with some of you with the ZERO chance of him finishing his first term (but I was dead serious when saying that with regard to the 2016 election, and so far I have been proven wrong on that; time will tell if that remains true), but if you want to take me literally there, fine. Still could happen that he doesn't finish his first term. He is in BIG trouble.

I still have NEVER put a time frame on Mueller and his work. He can take this investigation into a second Trump term for all I care. I have patience to wait for the truth, and so should all of you.

Trump will not skate.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done. Believe it, for it is true.

I will admit to having fun? So now your words are meaningless, correct? Or do you just pick and choose afterwards to meet the current situation?

Right.

Mueller is coming.

Nothing happens.

Sure, I will admit that I posted that, but I was just having fun.

You think you really know what you're talking about, don't you?

I, along with others, laugh when you post huge rants that no one but yourself and immediate family reads.

The clown is done. That means what? He will or won't be impeached/not finish his first term?

What an embarrassment to the Buckeye State.

Please continue posting, I need to laugh and laugh hard often. I'm not guaranteeing that I need to laugh, just saying that I need to laugh.

Flagpole wrote:

flagpole is the clown wrote:

I will admit to having fun? So now your words are meaningless, correct? Or do you just pick and choose afterwards to meet the current situation?

Right.

Mueller is coming.

Nothing happens.

Sure, I will admit that I posted that, but I was just having fun.

You think you really know what you're talking about, don't you?

I, along with others, laugh when you post huge rants that no one but yourself and immediate family reads.

The clown is done. That means what? He will or won't be impeached/not finish his first term?

What an embarrassment to the Buckeye State.

Please continue posting, I need to laugh and laugh hard often. I'm not guaranteeing that I need to laugh, just saying that I need to laugh.

Go with what I continue to post.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I have described before what it means for Trump to be done, and it includes many things.

Any of what happens to Trump has to do with what Mueller finds and under Mueller's timeline. I have never put a timeline on Mueller's findings, so while I still THINK it is very likely he won't make it to the end of his first term, I am not guaranteeing that, and I've said that before. I have the patience to wait for Mueller's investigation to reach its end.

I do believe and predict that what Mueller finds will lead to Trump's impeachment if he is still in office at that point, and that it will be bad enough for even a Republican-controlled Senate to convict and remove him. If he is no longer in office when Mueller wraps up his investigation, Trump will suffer severe financial punishment, possible loss of his businesses, and perhaps even jail time or house arrest.

What will happen:

1) Obstruction of Justice is a for sure thing. Firing Comey (and admitting it was because of Russia investigation), attempting to get Sessions to not recuse himself, and then helping draft the letter that was misleading about Don Jr's Trump Tower meeting are all easily Obstruction of Justice. There will be more examples too. This is enough to get a likely Democrat-controlled House after the 2018 elections to impeach him. Probably NOT enough to get the likely still Republican-controlled Senate to convict. IF he is impeached (but not convicted) before the 2020 election, he will not win re-election. He is on shaky ground with that now anyway, but without the impeachment, he still has a shot to win in 2020. Need to see what other Republicans challenge him and who the Democrat challenger is before I can know for sure.

2) Money Laundering is the next in line of possibilities against Trump. So many red flags against Trump with regard to this. IF this comes up at the same time as Obstruction of Justice, AND there is a Russian connection to his money laundering, this WILL be enough for impeachment and a Senate conviction and removal from office. If there is no Russian connection to the money laundering, he may be able to stave off removal from office.

3) Finally is the issue of conspiracy with Russia. IF this is proven, that is enough to get him removed from office and perhaps also face jail time. While I believe this and the money laundering SHOULD mean he spends time in jail, I am not confident yet that he will spend time in jail. The conspiracy will fall under the umbrella of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. This will be the hardest to prove, but there is a lot of smoke there.

So, the above things all have to do with the Mueller investigation, NOT including the Stormy Daniels situation. The Stormy Daniels situation also adds possible campaign finance violation.

The above enumerations don't include all the reasons why there is smoke, and I won't type them all out here, but we (and Mueller is looking) need to look at Trump's associates including Roger Stone, Felix Sater, Rob Goldstone. We need to also consider the lack of integrity of those associated with his campaign...Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, George Papadopolous, Alex van der Zwaan.

Trump just today threw his lawyer Michael Cohen under the bus, and if Cohen decides to spill the beans on Trump, then Trump WILL spend time in jail...perhaps a lot of time.

None of the above includes women other than Stormy Daniels coming after him, the state of New York investigating him.

So, the best case scenario for Trump is that he is re-elected in 2020 and is impeached later but not convicted. That seems a tall order. More likely is that he is impeached and loses re-election, but every day there is a bigger and bigger possibility of some serious legal and financial punishment.

I reserve the right going forward to declare that Trump now WILL be going to jail. Right now, I am not willing to say that, but it becomes more and more possible every day.

When this all comes out, at a minimum, Trump will be ruined financially and politically...that is how he is done.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

-infinity wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Go with what I continue to post.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I have described before what it means for Trump to be done, and it includes many things.

Any of what happens to Trump has to do with what Mueller finds and under Mueller's timeline. I have never put a timeline on Mueller's findings, so while I still THINK it is very likely he won't make it to the end of his first term, I am not guaranteeing that, and I've said that before. I have the patience to wait for Mueller's investigation to reach its end.

I do believe and predict that what Mueller finds will lead to Trump's impeachment if he is still in office at that point, and that it will be bad enough for even a Republican-controlled Senate to convict and remove him. If he is no longer in office when Mueller wraps up his investigation, Trump will suffer severe financial punishment, possible loss of his businesses, and perhaps even jail time or house arrest.

What will happen:

1) Obstruction of Justice is a for sure thing. Firing Comey (and admitting it was because of Russia investigation), attempting to get Sessions to not recuse himself, and then helping draft the letter that was misleading about Don Jr's Trump Tower meeting are all easily Obstruction of Justice. There will be more examples too. This is enough to get a likely Democrat-controlled House after the 2018 elections to impeach him. Probably NOT enough to get the likely still Republican-controlled Senate to convict. IF he is impeached (but not convicted) before the 2020 election, he will not win re-election. He is on shaky ground with that now anyway, but without the impeachment, he still has a shot to win in 2020. Need to see what other Republicans challenge him and who the Democrat challenger is before I can know for sure.

2) Money Laundering is the next in line of possibilities against Trump. So many red flags against Trump with regard to this. IF this comes up at the same time as Obstruction of Justice, AND there is a Russian connection to his money laundering, this WILL be enough for impeachment and a Senate conviction and removal from office. If there is no Russian connection to the money laundering, he may be able to stave off removal from office.

3) Finally is the issue of conspiracy with Russia. IF this is proven, that is enough to get him removed from office and perhaps also face jail time. While I believe this and the money laundering SHOULD mean he spends time in jail, I am not confident yet that he will spend time in jail. The conspiracy will fall under the umbrella of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. This will be the hardest to prove, but there is a lot of smoke there.

So, the above things all have to do with the Mueller investigation, NOT including the Stormy Daniels situation. The Stormy Daniels situation also adds possible campaign finance violation.

The above enumerations don't include all the reasons why there is smoke, and I won't type them all out here, but we (and Mueller is looking) need to look at Trump's associates including Roger Stone, Felix Sater, Rob Goldstone. We need to also consider the lack of integrity of those associated with his campaign...Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, George Papadopolous, Alex van der Zwaan.

Trump just today threw his lawyer Michael Cohen under the bus, and if Cohen decides to spill the beans on Trump, then Trump WILL spend time in jail...perhaps a lot of time.

None of the above includes women other than Stormy Daniels coming after him, the state of New York investigating him.

So, the best case scenario for Trump is that he is re-elected in 2020 and is impeached later but not convicted. That seems a tall order. More likely is that he is impeached and loses re-election, but every day there is a bigger and bigger possibility of some serious legal and financial punishment.

I reserve the right going forward to declare that Trump now WILL be going to jail. Right now, I am not willing to say that, but it becomes more and more possible every day.

When this all comes out, at a minimum, Trump will be ruined financially and politically...that is how he is done.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

A post that was clearly a waste of time. I personally wouldn't read it unless you paid me. Same words on a different post, rinse and repeat. Trump WILL this. This WILL happen. ZERO chance. I GUARANTEE. I LOL every time. Silly little man from Ohio looking for someone to agree with him so that he can tell his significant other.

h,ydul wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Perhaps Trumpsters don’t understand just how much their jobs, businesses and overall lifestyles are dependent on Chinese goods, but let’s see how they feel once they find out.

They won't find out.

1) The true Trump fan simply does not process negative info about DJT. Donald was absolutely right when he said he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes. (He's right about many things, when it comes to reading "his people." Folks of every political stripe need to give him more credit in this area, and need to pay attention.)

2) They're not going to be confronted with negative info about him anyway. What, are they gonna read what the analysts at the New York Times, or even the Wall Street Journal, have to say? Not a chance. They're going to continue to get their "news" from Fox--which will tell them their growing economic problems stem from China, Democrats (Obama, in particular--sure, he's been out of office almost 15 months, but so what?), Mexico, globalization in general, and maybe George Soros. They will never get the word that Trump's actions and inactions have caused their economic distress.

Various commentators and pundits who speculate and project, based on Trump's voters' getting a clue (or coming to their senses) do NOT understand Trump's base--at least not nearly as well as he does. And this is one reason why the Senate is likely IMHO to be *more* GOP after this fall's elections, and why DJT has a better than even chance of being re-elected.

Trollminator wrote:

h,ydul wrote:

[quote]Trollminator wrote:

Perhaps Trumpsters don’t understand just how much their jobs, businesses and overall lifestyles are dependent on Chinese goods, but let’s see how they feel once they find out.

They won't find out.

quote]

I agree with your prediction. However, there is another angle that Trumpsters have taken for granted. With these trade wars and other draconian policies he is in fact isolating the US from global affairs and can only stand to lose support from all sides. Lets not forget that he couldn't have won without at least some support from the GOP and indifference from world leaders. People want to think he did it all by himself but he had the political machine behind him in the end and a cluster of tactical people like Bannon working directly for him. Those people are mostly gone and the GOP has been hoping from court to bench more than before. These recent landslide Democrat victories are going to force Republicans to distance themselves publicly from the Orange One if they want to retain their positions. The pendulum must swing back, and it appears to be happening sooner than many may have expected. Whereas Trump was once associated with strength, patriotism and decisiveness he will be associated with recklessness, incompetence and lack of knowledge. It happens to all Presidents, it is always only downhill from day 1 at the office.