On a somewhat lighter note: In less than fifty days' time, this four-year presidential term with be one-third over! Yay!
Time flies, whether you're having fun or not!
On a somewhat lighter note: In less than fifty days' time, this four-year presidential term with be one-third over! Yay!
Time flies, whether you're having fun or not!
Cohen has to be one dumb lawyer. How could he know something that should be attorney client privilege between Stormy Daniels and her former lawyer who brokered the $130,000 deal? Cohen would have been better off keeping his mouth shut than to let on he more than he should have.
Stormy Wednesday wrote:
Stormy Daniels former attorney seems to have been working on trump's behalf rather than her behalf. Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, who encouraged the former attorney to go out and reveal what he knew about his clients and their agreements--how would Cohen know. Cohen said client-attorney privileges were no longer applicable to the former attorney.
Trump is extremely desperate.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/stormy-daniels-karen-mcdougal-deals-keith-davidson-invs/index.html
Flagpole wrote:
Little Willy wrote:
You left out Flagpole's "Collluuuuusssssion" prediction (see below). Yes, "likely" means he believes it would happen. (He has since tried to convince the board that he never said he thought Trump colluded. Ha)
August 24, 2017, Flagpole posted this:
"Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians."
LOL!
I have never said that I didn't think Trump colluded. I stand by the comment you just posted.
To be clear, I DO think we have evidence of collusion already...Trump Jr. Trump Tower meeting.
I have said several times that collusion (conspiracy) is the least likely of the three when also talking of Obstruction of Justice and Money Laundering because it the hardest to prove. BUT, I think it is still likely. I have never guaranteed it or said it won't happen. Likely means a good chance. Doesn't mean it for sure will happen. If I meant it would for sure happen I would say that. I haven't said that.
BUT, do know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
You said ZERO chance he finishes his first term. Ummmm....that is called a guarantee in every language that I know of.
nonflagpole wrote:
You said ZERO chance he finishes his first term. Ummmm....that is called a guarantee in every language that I know of.
So, you are claiming 100% chance Trump finishes his term. And you imply he gets a second term.
The only terms Trump is winning are PRISON terms.
Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?
DHS created a Trump-like Fake University to nab noncitizens. The nabbed an Army veteran who Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said could not be deported because of laws that allow veterans with honorable service to naturalize. The veteran obtained a fake visa given to him by the fake DHS University. He enlisted in the Army and completed training, and then DHS arrested him. Oh, and the fake DHS University took $8000 from him to enroll him in fake classes, and then claimed never attended the fake classes the reason for his arrest. You can not make up stuff like this, except in Trumpland.
nonflagpole wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have never said that I didn't think Trump colluded. I stand by the comment you just posted.
To be clear, I DO think we have evidence of collusion already...Trump Jr. Trump Tower meeting.
I have said several times that collusion (conspiracy) is the least likely of the three when also talking of Obstruction of Justice and Money Laundering because it the hardest to prove. BUT, I think it is still likely. I have never guaranteed it or said it won't happen. Likely means a good chance. Doesn't mean it for sure will happen. If I meant it would for sure happen I would say that. I haven't said that.
BUT, do know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
You said ZERO chance he finishes his first term. Ummmm....that is called a guarantee in every language that I know of.
I did not say that it was due to collusion. Sorry, brother, you are wrong.
This is f.u.c.k.'n ridiculous 1179 pages of utter nonsense.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
This is f.u.c.k.'n ridiculous 1179 pages of utter nonsense.
0/10
No one made you clink on the thread.
Flagpole is very much under your skin and he is in complete and total control of your triggers. The mods are free to do what they want with me, neither you nor I have any influence over their actions. I'm the kind of woman you desperately want but can't have. You don't measure up in the integrity department.
[quote]Under your skin wrote:
Nope. You are not under anyone's skin.
The mods are watching. Please keep posting. ?❗️??
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Mom is here wrote:
Yeah, I'd like an answer. You said ZERO chance. When if at all is this going to happen? Mueller just called off the investigation as I saw it with my own eyes on tv. What now?
You trolls are hilarious.
Mueller asking Russian oligarchs about any donations to Trump campaign: report
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Fake DHS University wrote:
DHS created a Trump-like Fake University to nab noncitizens. The nabbed an Army veteran who Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said could not be deported because of laws that allow veterans with honorable service to naturalize. The veteran obtained a fake visa given to him by the fake DHS University. He enlisted in the Army and completed training, and then DHS arrested him. Oh, and the fake DHS University took $8000 from him to enroll him in fake classes, and then claimed never attended the fake classes the reason for his arrest. You can not make up stuff like this, except in Trumpland.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/04/04/mattis-said-immigrant-veterans-should-not-be-deported-ice-is-trying-anyway/
This is a pretty interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I do think it's worth pointing out that the fake university and arrest happened in 2016, before Trump was elected. Regardless, this looks to me like a situation where everyone involved bears a portion of the blame, and lack of communication between DHS and DoD resulted in ambiguous and confusing standards regarding who was covered by Mattis's statement.
Flagpole wrote:
nonflagpole wrote:
You said ZERO chance he finishes his first term. Ummmm....that is called a guarantee in every language that I know of.
I did not say that it was due to collusion. Sorry, brother, you are wrong.
I can only say "WOW!". Are you really trying to give a 2nd grade answer?
The bottom line is you posted that he had ZERO chance of finishing his first term. Who cares if it was due to collusion or the sky falling down? Now you're back peddling and saying you said it, but not because of collusion. What the hell does that mean? Which version are you going with today? Your grandma can post in your favor, but it doesn't change what you said.
The bottom line is, you're wrong all the time and you'll be wrong again.
Dominator of Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
There are only three possibilities in this type of investigation:
Target
Subject
Witness
As the investigation continues, Targets are likely to have charges leveled against them. Of the two remaining, Witnesses are the least likely to have charges leveled against them, and Subjects are more likely. The status of a person can and does change through the course of an investigation. So, what I said was true. Being a Subject of a criminal investigation (which Trump is and now has been confirmed) is the "next worse" when looking at all three possibilities.
No one should be happy to be told that they are the Subject of a criminal investigation, especially not one under the umbrella of the FBI.
You fail to understand what a Subject of an investigation is (not surprising).
A subject is an individual whose conduct may be related to the accusation or look suspicious, but the prosecutor has not been able to prove that the individual has actually done anything wrong. Trump has obviously been a subject of the investigation since day one. Any rational person would acknowledge this.
This IS very good for Trump at this point in the whathaveyou, as his guilt has been alluded to on a daily basis by the media outlets and millions of butthurtsters trolling messageboards to deal with their 2016 ailment.
You also fail to correctly state the how long the investigation into Russia/Trump has been going. The Special Counsel has been ongoing since May 2017. That is the official date that it started. Prior to that, a lead in investigation of the same focus was ongoing under Comey. So yes, it's likely 18 months of investigation into "Trump meanie stuff."
So there you have it. Complete domination of Flagpole, again.
Mueller isn't coming.
The clown is now more than ever, Flagpole.
WRONG. Can't emphasize it enough. Calling someone else out when YOU don't understand the semantics of subject vs. target. Manafort was the 'subject' of an investigation. How did that turn out? Ask a DoJ lawyer or a criminal defense lawyer about the terms. DoJ will often not identify someone as a target until the moment they are indicted.
Mueller is already here.
Nice Try Spanky wrote:
Are you really trying to give a 2nd grade answer?
That level of answer is beyond your ability to understand, 1st grader.
qwerty squared wrote:
Dominator of Flagpole wrote:
You fail to understand what a Subject of an investigation is (not surprising).
A subject is an individual whose conduct may be related to the accusation or look suspicious, but the prosecutor has not been able to prove that the individual has actually done anything wrong. Trump has obviously been a subject of the investigation since day one. Any rational person would acknowledge this.
This IS very good for Trump at this point in the whathaveyou, as his guilt has been alluded to on a daily basis by the media outlets and millions of butthurtsters trolling messageboards to deal with their 2016 ailment.
You also fail to correctly state the how long the investigation into Russia/Trump has been going. The Special Counsel has been ongoing since May 2017. That is the official date that it started. Prior to that, a lead in investigation of the same focus was ongoing under Comey. So yes, it's likely 18 months of investigation into "Trump meanie stuff."
So there you have it. Complete domination of Flagpole, again.
Mueller isn't coming.
The clown is now more than ever, Flagpole.
WRONG. Can't emphasize it enough. Calling someone else out when YOU don't understand the semantics of subject vs. target. Manafort was the 'subject' of an investigation. How did that turn out? Ask a DoJ lawyer or a criminal defense lawyer about the terms. DoJ will often not identify someone as a target until the moment they are indicted.
Mueller is already here.
Uhhh... that's actually pretty much the exact definition of being a "subject" of an investigation.
And yes, since the investigation was into Russia and possible Trump campaign involvement, POTUS45 has been a subject since day one.
There is not disputing this.
Manafort was a well-known lobbyist that had dealt with Russia/Ukraine/etc in the past. Don't be disingenuous, you know his indictment had nothing to do with the 2016 election.
Right On wrote:
qwerty squared wrote:
WRONG. Can't emphasize it enough. Calling someone else out when YOU don't understand the semantics of subject vs. target. Manafort was the 'subject' of an investigation. How did that turn out? Ask a DoJ lawyer or a criminal defense lawyer about the terms. DoJ will often not identify someone as a target until the moment they are indicted.
Mueller is already here.
Uhhh... that's actually pretty much the exact definition of being a "subject" of an investigation.
And yes, since the investigation was into Russia and possible Trump campaign involvement, POTUS45 has been a subject since day one.
There is not disputing this.
Manafort was a well-known lobbyist that had dealt with Russia/Ukraine/etc in the past. Don't be disingenuous, you know his indictment had nothing to do with the 2016 election.
Well, I guess it comes down to a hopeful anti-Trump troll on a messageboard vs people that actually know what they're talking about (Democrat Alan Dershowitz):
ALAN DERSHOWITZ: I have to tell you if after a year of very thorough investigation and going after all the low-hanging fruit and getting people not only to sing but some of them even perhaps to compose, if they couldn't have shifted him from a subject to a target there is nothing there.
SEAN HANNITY: What, are they hoping?
DERSHOWITZ: Of course they are hoping. But I think they understand that. Now they are going into very weak issues. Collusion. I challenge Mueller to tell me what statute is violated by collusion.
There is a memo now by [Rod] Rosenstein authorizing him to investigate collusion with the Russians by Manafort. But you can't investigate sins. You can only investigate federal crimes and there is no such federal crime collusion.
HANNITY: How do they not know that?
DERSHOWITZ: They know it but they hope that by investigating collusion they'll get somebody to obstruct justice, to commit perjury, to commit one of these other peripheral crimes as they always say it's in the coverup. But it's not the coverup. It's that prosecutors induce coverups which is why innocent people shouldn't be testifying unless they absolutely have to because you can be indicted for perjury even if you tell the truth. If you say something that somebody else says differently.
HANNITY: That's a spectacular statement. You could be indicted for perjury even if you tell the truth.
DERSHOWITZ: That's right. Because if somebody contradicts you and the prosecutor believes the person contradicting you, you're indicted for perjury even though you told the truth.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/04/dershowitz_warns_trump_you_can_be_indicted_for_perjury_even_if_you_tell_mueller_the_truth.htmlI was just being a goofball and there's nothing to understand. Of course he said it, I saw the page as well. He said ZERO chance he finishes his first term and yes that means he's guaranteeing it...we get it already, he's wrong! Do you really think Flagpole doesn't know that? What else does ZERO chance mean other than it can't happen. He lies and he's wrong, where's the big surprise.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Mom is here wrote:
Yeah, I'd like an answer. You said ZERO chance. When if at all is this going to happen? Mueller just called off the investigation as I saw it with my own eyes on tv. What now?
You trolls are hilarious.
Mueller asking Russian oligarchs about any donations to Trump campaign: report
Your logic on politics is hilarious, you know very little to nothing on politics. Your posts are that of a non-thinker, aka a simpleton. Educate yourself old man, then come back and we'll talk. Ignorance is your middle name.