It's very strange that this guy and the guy who shot at Trump don't have clearly defined and vocal political stances. People who get arrested for illegal forms of protesting will at least get a message out like "Free Palestine!"; otherwise, it's kind of pointless to get yourself in trouble. You would think that if someone has been motivated enough for a do-or-die act like shooting a top political figure, they would at least publish a manifesto. Similar sort of thing with Luigi Mangione, Bryan Kohberger and the Minnesota political assassin, in recent years. They're kind of random White dudes from middle- or upper-middle class families and seem mildly opinionated (about politics, culture, etc.) but not too far out of the ordinary. There's no strong motive, no clear objective. I feel like in the old days, guys like the Unabomber or the guy who shot John Lennon have very well documented motives.
With all due respect, you need to wake up. There is indeed a crystal clear motive.
Without DEI, all pilots would have been selected on merit. With DEI, we lowered standards to get more blacks. Democrats implemented those things because they said blacks were less qualified. Do you question if a white in the NBA is qualified. Now dand that 60% of the NBA be white. We will all question the ability of every individual white player because most were chosen before better black players.
“The left” “the leftists” and “they”? Why can you not give any credence to the fact that the category of “the left” is filled with millions upon millions of decent people who go about their daily lives in ways that are very much like what you would recognize (and I assume value and approve of) in Republicans? And that they look with disgust at those who celebrate an assasination?
I agree that “the Left” as a more or less coherent political entity is broken, and that the worldview of a certain percentage of people on the Left is horrible and worsening. And those people have increased in number. And that there are many reasons for that. And that one of those reasons is a larger fracturing of American society not restricted to the Left.
I think you may not understand something, though Stephen Miller does, and even AdultInTheRoom does, and it is a dynamic both of them probably hope for: The more you erase distinctions among your political opponents and act as though “they” are all the same, the more likely you are to polarize the country further, stoke anger, turn more moderates into die-hards, and swell the ranks of the radical fringe. Of every radical fringe, whether you’d call it left or right.
And what do you think happens when you stoke anger and become one of the forces that contributes to making people more radical?
You yourself have made some disgustingly callous posts here (and arguably worse than merely “callous”) and then have backpedaled into calling for peace and saying you want to debate reasonably.
When you have spoken of the Right “firing back,” I’m assuming, then, that doing so will be restricted to those who fire shots against the Right or those who express a wish to do so? Do you think that such posts display your loathing of violence, or do they look more like an attempt to justify further violence?
I’m all for peaceful and reasonable discussion. Maybe you can genuinely and consistently commit to that by restricting yourself to pointing out bad and dangerous ideas you see, denouncing specifically the worst opponents you see, and never insinuating that a group of kind, peaceful fellow Americans are evil, just because a number of other members of their political party do things we all consider despicable.
I appreciate your post, and I agree with much of what you say. I know I had some heated posts early in this thread that have since been deleted, most of which came from the anger I was feeling upon learning of the killing of Charlie Kirk. And yes, I have made insensitive posts in the past, namely the one often mentioned regarding the theoretical civil war, in which I would find liberals at Starbucks and the dressing rooms of Target. There was more jest to that comment than anything else, yet I have also been seeing the storm clouds of a wide scale political altercation develop over some time now. Despite what you may think, this is something I don't want. Don't tell anyone but there are leftists in my life that I get along perfectly well with, and it saddens me that political strife may tear those relationships apart. So to your point, I do realize the leftist group is of a heterogeneous nature (ironic 😉) but it is quickly being taken over by a force that cannot be reconciled with. We both it seems still hold out hope for some grand reconciliation, but my hope is fading fast that that ship hasn't already sailed. And also, I love talking sh*t and joking and will continue to make insensitive posts, so don't take it personal.
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
My prediction is that we will eventually find out that there is an armed radical trans/queer quasi -terrorist cell planning/operating in the shadows that was deeply involved in the killing of Charlie Kirk, of which the killer was a part of.
Without DEI, all pilots would have been selected on merit. With DEI, we lowered standards to get more blacks. Democrats implemented those things because they said blacks were less qualified. Do you question if a white in the NBA is qualified. Now dand that 60% of the NBA be white. We will all question the ability of every individual white player because most were chosen before better black players.
You can't use reason to move a person off a position they arrived at emotionally.
Pure logic proves DEI results in less qualified candidates,
They don't care because it FEELS wrong to them to favoring immutable characteristics over merit is a flawed system.
I appreciate your post, and I agree with much of what you say. I know I had some heated posts early in this thread that have since been deleted, most of which came from the anger I was feeling upon learning of the killing of Charlie Kirk. And yes, I have made insensitive posts in the past, namely the one often mentioned regarding the theoretical civil war, in which I would find liberals at Starbucks and the dressing rooms of Target. There was more jest to that comment than anything else, yet I have also been seeing the storm clouds of a wide scale political altercation develop over some time now. Despite what you may think, this is something I don't want. Don't tell anyone but there are leftists in my life that I get along perfectly well with, and it saddens me that political strife may tear those relationships apart. So to your point, I do realize the leftist group is of a heterogeneous nature (ironic 😉) but it is quickly being taken over by a force that cannot be reconciled with. We both it seems still hold out hope for some grand reconciliation, but my hope is fading fast that that ship hasn't already sailed. And also, I love talking sh*t and joking and will continue to make insensitive posts, so don't take it personal.
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
Over and out.
If you are so fragile you cannot coexist with or tolerate opinions you don't like the problem is you.
Your video shows that Charlie said exactly what I claimed. It wasn’t “taken out of context.” It was racism. But, thanks for posting evidence that Charlie Kirk was a racist piece of sh*t and that the world is a far better place without him in it.
I appreciate your post, and I agree with much of what you say. I know I had some heated posts early in this thread that have since been deleted, most of which came from the anger I was feeling upon learning of the killing of Charlie Kirk. And yes, I have made insensitive posts in the past, namely the one often mentioned regarding the theoretical civil war, in which I would find liberals at Starbucks and the dressing rooms of Target. There was more jest to that comment than anything else, yet I have also been seeing the storm clouds of a wide scale political altercation develop over some time now. Despite what you may think, this is something I don't want. Don't tell anyone but there are leftists in my life that I get along perfectly well with, and it saddens me that political strife may tear those relationships apart. So to your point, I do realize the leftist group is of a heterogeneous nature (ironic 😉) but it is quickly being taken over by a force that cannot be reconciled with. We both it seems still hold out hope for some grand reconciliation, but my hope is fading fast that that ship hasn't already sailed. And also, I love talking sh*t and joking and will continue to make insensitive posts, so don't take it personal.
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
Before you post fire and brimstone, realize that you are being manipulated by Russia and china. Apparently over half of twitter accounts are troll farms. Sit back, think about George Washington and Abe Lincoln. Then post if you must. They would not want you to post tho.
I appreciate your post, and I agree with much of what you say. I know I had some heated posts early in this thread that have since been deleted, most of which came from the anger I was feeling upon learning of the killing of Charlie Kirk. And yes, I have made insensitive posts in the past, namely the one often mentioned regarding the theoretical civil war, in which I would find liberals at Starbucks and the dressing rooms of Target. There was more jest to that comment than anything else, yet I have also been seeing the storm clouds of a wide scale political altercation develop over some time now. Despite what you may think, this is something I don't want. Don't tell anyone but there are leftists in my life that I get along perfectly well with, and it saddens me that political strife may tear those relationships apart. So to your point, I do realize the leftist group is of a heterogeneous nature (ironic 😉) but it is quickly being taken over by a force that cannot be reconciled with. We both it seems still hold out hope for some grand reconciliation, but my hope is fading fast that that ship hasn't already sailed. And also, I love talking sh*t and joking and will continue to make insensitive posts, so don't take it personal.
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
Over and out.
I don't want to be the sole reason you leave this site. Surely you find posts in this thread from the left equally as offensive as mine? Please just block me or simply don't read my posts before you leave.
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Without DEI, all pilots would have been selected on merit. With DEI, we lowered standards to get more blacks. Democrats implemented those things because they said blacks were less qualified. Do you question if a white in the NBA is qualified. Now dand that 60% of the NBA be white. We will all question the ability of every individual white player because most were chosen before better black players.
These people call an all'black team "diverse" and an all-Whiite team "racist".
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
Over and out.
If you are so fragile you cannot coexist with or tolerate opinions you don't like the problem is you.
Funny you should say that.
I just jumped back on to add to my previous comment so as to include AdultInTheRoom and a couple of other posters as also reasons for why I find the site not worth wasting my time on anymore.
I regret that those seeking to exchange ideas on this site are drowned out by those that seem intent on simply insulting the other side and in winning at all costs.
Provide evidence of Kirk's racism please. Oh, wanting a secure border and wanting people to come in legally isn't racist.
If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like 'boy, I hope he is qualified‘… Charlie Kirk
He called journalist Joy Reid, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson “affirmative action picks,” claiming they did not “have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.”
So, Charlie was a racist piece of sh*t. The world is a far better place without him in it.
With all due respect, you need to wake up. There is indeed a crystal clear motive.
Not really. Supposedly he had mentioned that he doesn't like Charlie Kirk. Well, so have I. (I'm more of a right-winger but not a fan of Turning Point, Daily Wire, etc. I feel they are huge grifts. I've said to people before that I don't like Charlie Kirk.)
FWIW, I find your posts very offsetting and inappropriate. I mean this of your posts in general and in this specific discussion.
For that reason I have effectively quit the site and don't visit anymore. And feel similarly about extending my involvement with individuals in my social circle who hold views and tendencies of expression similar to yours.
One theme coming from this tragic event is all the harm being done by the internet and social media. That rings so true for me.
I may check back in on occassion but I am through with this.
Over and out.
I don't want to be the sole reason you leave this site. Surely you find posts in this thread from the left equally as offensive as mine? Please just block me or simply don't read my posts before you leave.
Thank you for saying that.
I have blocked AdultInTheRoom, and I guess I didn't as to you.
But what I regret is that the name calling, among other things.
And this Charlie Kirk tragedy is revealing some very serious effects on negative aspects of social media and the internet.
Maybe I just need to step away from all this for a while.
At this point even Palestinian activists and Black YouTubers are sick of white liberal “Saviors.”
“Get another hobby” is solid advice.
“Can some white people please stop thinking they have the right to explain a Palestinian activist’s own history to him? While you work to sow chaos and hate in favor of a terrorist organization, he is fighting for his people and for a future of peace. You are the worst poison for Palestinians. For two years, your crappy activism has done nothing but harm them. And you still don’t have the decency to shut up and apologize. Palestinians are just a hobby for you, something to fill the emptiness in your lives; for him, it’s his future. Do the Middle East a favor and all take up knitting! We are all done with your neo-colonialist white savior complex.”
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