L L wrote:
Well, you must be on here all the time to determine how often others post, correct?
And you seem to be someone who posts under different names, making it look like multiple people agree with your point..
You are exactly correct. That poster(s) are most likely jamin and hardloper. They are always on this thread, but rarely post under the real posting name. Some of their fake names are registered.
Fat hurts wrote:
longbaugh sundance wrote:
No it's not.
Come on folks, Hillary lied over and over, but they've yet to convict her on those lies, remember?
Soon she'll be in deep "Do Do" and you'll say what?
Your only fall back is that she was investigated and found not guilty. But, was she guilty? The answer is obvious, but LL and the Gang don't acknowledge that.
Obama lied dozens of times about his campaign promises (do your own unbiased research).
Snope is right is they print what you want. If they print the opposite, they're wrong. That I find hilarious.
So then, after how many months have you and Gagpole regurgitated crap that you found on the internet, pawned it off as your own, then claimed Donald Trump would be gone? Again, how many months? It's April 1st on Sunday then May 1st will come, etc...
You guys think you're so intelligent that you've been telling a small number of people on a silly running forum that he's done and you said it first...which is utterly and embarrassingly laughable.
It shows your huge insecurities as you yearn for the approval of others. Neither of you clowns are right on anything but what you've read which isn't always fact.
its_baddude has been kicking your butt over and over and over, but you keep grasping to Mueller is coming, ect...
So your only explanation is, "What about Hillary?".
You can't argue the facts. The facts are that Trump's campaign chair and deputy campaign chair colluded with Russian Intelligence. We know that now. The meetings are documented.
It's collusion.
It's conspiracy.
These facts will be argued in court. If Trumpers can't even dream up one innocent explanation of the facts it will surely be an open and shut case for Mueller.
You sir, are an idiot. Get help in comprehending things, because as it stands right now, you suck.
Fatty Idiot wrote:
^nothingburger
realburger >
A recent Pew study found that nearly 6 in 10 millennials now identify with the Democratic Party, more than any other age group. A solid majority of millennials have liberal views. Only 27 percent of millennials approve of Trump. ... LOL
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2018/03/20113922/03-20-18-Party-Identification.pdfL L wrote:
Fatsgood wrote:
they are far leftist and won't agree to anything that the right says. let them cry some more, trump won and they'll spend many precious years complaining! think about it, if they had lives, real lives, would they be on here all the time? LL, Fatty and Fattypole have no lives. look how many times they post in a day. who are they trying to convince? all are in their 50's and have letsrun as their main artery.
Well, you must be on here all the time to determine how often others post, correct?
And you seem to be someone who posts under different names, making it look like multiple people agree with your point.
I lean way left but specify the things where I do not agree with the right wing.
For instance, I have a problem with Republicans running on fiscal responsibility and seeing that the actual results are deficits go way up under Republican leadership and go down under Democrat leadership.
I point out how they campaign on better healthcare for more people and things get worse under their control.
Trump's biggest shtick was to call everyone else crooked and a liar while he lies at an uncountable rate, will not be transparent on his taxes and is under investigation for possible money laundering. Plus his staff is spending tax payer money like water.
So, you go ahead and write in the specific things where you disagree with my views and we can discuss those things.
When you wanna bet old man, speak up. I'm rarely on here, but when I am, you're name is on page after page.
Seems? Yeah, there are a lot seems. Like it seems like you are an old guy who can't think for himself and is upset over his choice losing. Obama and Clinton pulled the same things, people posted proof. Where's your research? You LIVE on here and come up with such lame posts that I know you're a loner with nothing going for himself.
The proof on Obama and his lies were posted. You had no problem then and were not complaining in the least anywhere on this site.
Keep posting as I'll check in a couple weeks and you'll have posted 4 dozen times, if not more. Cry much?
Fatsgood wrote:
^nutin'burger
OopsLoper wrote:
Fatty Idiot wrote:
^nothingburger
realburger >
A recent Pew study found that nearly 6 in 10 millennials now identify with the Democratic Party, more than any other age group. A solid majority of millennials have liberal views. Only 27 percent of millennials approve of Trump. ... LOL
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2018/03/20113922/03-20-18-Party-Identification.pdf
That's only because they have been brainwashed by their liberal professors, and are clearly misguided.
Fatty Idiot wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So your only explanation is, "What about Hillary?".
You can't argue the facts. The facts are that Trump's campaign chair and deputy campaign chair colluded with Russian Intelligence. We know that now. The meetings are documented.
It's collusion.
It's conspiracy.
These facts will be argued in court. If Trumpers can't even dream up one innocent explanation of the facts it will surely be an open and shut case for Mueller.
You sir, are an idiot. Get help in comprehending things, because as it stands right now, you suck.
So you can't come up for an innocent explanation of the facts, huh? Look, don't blame me. I'm not the one who met with Russian Intelligence during the campaign. I'm just the messenger of bad news for you Trumpers.
And the news is:
It's collusion.
It's conspiracy.
Repubocrat wrote:
Here ya go, from an unbiased source as well. Ya, Barack was soooooooo honest, LOL! I never saw any of you complaining ONCE during his 8 years, not once.
The publication reports that so far, Donald Trump has kept 8.8% of his campaign promises. He has compromised on 6.9% of his promises. The publication characterizes 32.4% of his promises as “stalled.” A further 45.1% remain “in the works.” And so far, Trump has definitively broken 6.9% of his campaign promises. Politifact reports that during his presidency, Obama kept 48.4% of his promises. He compromised on 27.4% of them. And he broke 24.2% of them — a percentage that we’ll have to wait to see if Donald Trump will improve upon.
Well then at 8.8%, assuming he's in office for 8 years like Obama, that should be 70.4% when he is term limited out. Even if he's booted out of office at the end of his first 4 years, he's still at 35.2%. Pretty damn good all the way around if you ask me.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
That's only because they have been brainwashed by their liberal professors, and are clearly misguided.
So, you only managed to make it through high school? Got turned down by colleges due to low test scores, and low GPA? No wonder you are a Republican. ... LOL...
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Well then at 8.8%, assuming he's in office for 8 years like Obama, that should be 70.4% when he is term limited out. Even if he's booted out of office at the end of his first 4 years, he's still at 35.2%. Pretty damn good all the way around if you ask me.
LOL ... The person you replied to provided no link to his 'numbers' and you take them as true, and then you extrapolate the fake numbers, and make fake assumptions.
Trump promised $1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending. He’s 1 percent of the way there.
At 1% in 1-1/2 years Trump will be under 2% before he gets impeached in 2019.
Now, a link.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/29/trump-promised-1-5-trillion-in-infrastructure-spending-hes-1-percent-of-the-way-there/Impeached Trump wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Well then at 8.8%, assuming he's in office for 8 years like Obama, that should be 70.4% when he is term limited out. Even if he's booted out of office at the end of his first 4 years, he's still at 35.2%. Pretty damn good all the way around if you ask me.
LOL ... The person you replied to provided no link to his 'numbers' and you take them as true, and then you extrapolate the fake numbers, and make fake assumptions.
Trump promised $1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending. He’s 1 percent of the way there.
At 1% in 1-1/2 years Trump will be under 2% before he gets impeached in 2019.
Now, a link.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/29/trump-promised-1-5-trillion-in-infrastructure-spending-hes-1-percent-of-the-way-there/
Low aptitude is a common republican trait
Impeached Trump wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Well then at 8.8%, assuming he's in office for 8 years like Obama, that should be 70.4% when he is term limited out. Even if he's booted out of office at the end of his first 4 years, he's still at 35.2%. Pretty damn good all the way around if you ask me.
LOL ... The person you replied to provided no link to his 'numbers' and you take them as true, and then you extrapolate the fake numbers, and make fake assumptions.
Trump promised $1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending. He’s 1 percent of the way there.
At 1% in 1-1/2 years Trump will be under 2% before he gets impeached in 2019.
Now, a link.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/29/trump-promised-1-5-trillion-in-infrastructure-spending-hes-1-percent-of-the-way-there/
But I assume that everything I read on LRC, (as well as Al Gore's internet) is true. Don't you? My "fake" assumptions are based on the previous posters data. So whether the data is fake or not isn't relevant to the point I was making. Perhaps I wasn't being as obvious about it as I should have been. The poster was trying to unfavorably compare Trumps stats with Obama's, which, once the data is extrapolated to the same time frame, is obviously wrong. Now if the data the poster referenced was in fact right, all the better. if not, who cares?
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Impeached Trump wrote:
LOL ... The person you replied to provided no link to his 'numbers' and you take them as true, and then you extrapolate the fake numbers, and make fake assumptions.
Trump promised $1.5 trillion in infrastructure spending. He’s 1 percent of the way there.
At 1% in 1-1/2 years Trump will be under 2% before he gets impeached in 2019.
Now, a link.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/29/trump-promised-1-5-trillion-in-infrastructure-spending-hes-1-percent-of-the-way-there/But I assume that everything I read on LRC, (as well as Al Gore's internet) is true. Don't you? My "fake" assumptions are based on the previous posters data. So whether the data is fake or not isn't relevant to the point I was making. Perhaps I wasn't being as obvious about it as I should have been. The poster was trying to unfavorably compare Trumps stats with Obama's, which, once the data is extrapolated to the same time frame, is obviously wrong. Now if the data the poster referenced was in fact right, all the better. if not, who cares?
And BYW...........newsflash. No one will be impeached, and the worlds not flat. Were you the guy in the rocket???
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
2) "Our side"? MY SIDE is the side of truth and justice. Doesn't matter to me whatsoever if some crooked Democrats get caught breaking the law. The fact is that TRUMP will be caught breaking the law, and what he has done will be proven to be MUCH worse than anything some Democrats have done. This has nothing to do with me believing that Republicans are evil and Democrats are not. This has to do with the fact that TRUMP is amoral and criminal beyond anything we have ever seen in Federal US politics.
Do know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole, I present to you a reasonable counter :
Many here, including yourself, are operating under the assumption that Trump is guilty of collusion when in fact that is not a forgone conclusion. You are a mostly reasonable man who seems to respect due process and given the nature of Mueller's stellar reputation I think it's safe to say that we can trust his investigation team to uncover any and all truths related to the matter of collusion and the 2016 election. In the meantime, allegations in regards to conspiracy among Russia, the Gates - Manafort duo, and the president are circumstantial (although the current direction of the investigation and the evidence uncovered thus far does not seem to bode well for the president). As such, as a man on the side of truth and justice, I propose an alternate sign off :
Mueller is currently investigating whether or not the president colluded with Russians and is following all leads to conduct as thorough of an investigation as possible.
If such evidence of collusion is is found (and it does currently seem to be indicative of such), then the clown will be done.
1) I have constantly and consistently said that while I think there's enough evidence right now of collusion (Trump Jr. Trump Tower meeting) that this would be the hardest thing to prove and that I have full confidence in Mueller so that if he decides he can't go after Trump for that charge (conspiracy) then I will accept that. Here's why that meeting in the Trump Tower is collusion in my mind...the goal was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. not only wrote that he would "love it", but he told them when it would be best to release the information "especially later in the summer". That is without question collusion. Whether Mueller thinks that's enough to rise to a charge that would stick of Conspiracy, I will let him decide that. I THINK he has more on that, but I have never said for sure that he does. Also, no matter MY VIEW on this, I will accept Mueller's finding and decision.
2) I DO also believe though that Trump is done due to obstruction of justice and money laundering, and that if there is conspiracy with Russia to help him win, then he is even more evil than I MIGHT think he is. Mueller has filled his staff with people who are experts in money laundering, and I don't think that was all for Paul Manafort. So to be clear, I believe Trump will face Obstruction of Justice and/or Money Laundering charges, and very likely both of those.
3) We can NEVER be 100% sure of a decision by a special counsel until it is heard, but you have to realize that I am taking in all that I see and read and hear and making a prediction. I do not see how Trump can dodge all that is coming at him.
So, in that vein, know that...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Fatsgood wrote:
L L wrote:
Well, you must be on here all the time to determine how often others post, correct?
And you seem to be someone who posts under different names, making it look like multiple people agree with your point.
I lean way left but specify the things where I do not agree with the right wing.
For instance, I have a problem with Republicans running on fiscal responsibility and seeing that the actual results are deficits go way up under Republican leadership and go down under Democrat leadership.
I point out how they campaign on better healthcare for more people and things get worse under their control.
Trump's biggest shtick was to call everyone else crooked and a liar while he lies at an uncountable rate, will not be transparent on his taxes and is under investigation for possible money laundering. Plus his staff is spending tax payer money like water.
So, you go ahead and write in the specific things where you disagree with my views and we can discuss those things.
When you wanna bet old man, speak up. I'm rarely on here, but when I am, you're name is on page after page.
Seems? Yeah, there are a lot seems. Like it seems like you are an old guy who can't think for himself and is upset over his choice losing. Obama and Clinton pulled the same things, people posted proof. Where's your research? You LIVE on here and come up with such lame posts that I know you're a loner with nothing going for himself.
The proof on Obama and his lies were posted. You had no problem then and were not complaining in the least anywhere on this site.
Keep posting as I'll check in a couple weeks and you'll have posted 4 dozen times, if not more. Cry much?
You really offered no specifics to discuss.
What is your view of the current budget deficit under Trump compared to the Obama years?
GeeseGander wrote:
No, it's not indicative of such. We all thought the same thing with Clinton, and she skated after lying over and over under oath.
Flagpole is far from smart. He's just wants to rant and be heard, yet his substance is lacking. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, live with it. As dozens of others have said, he's been on here for how many months whining? Fall will come and he'll be saying Trump got off easy and should have been thrown out. Bookmark my post, I guarantee you he'll still be President. Next time put in a better candidate than Clinton, she lied more than Obama!
1) Which Clinton lied over and over under oath? Only Bill did that, and it wasn't really over and over. But he did do it. Hillary has not been charged with lying under oath at all, and despite what Trump says about her, she never lied to the FBI.
2) This has nothing to do with Trump beating Hillary. You can't cling to that now very suspect victory forever. This has to do with everything we have learned about Trump since he was elected. He fired Comey after he was elected. He has fired everyone and their brother since he was elected and either left those positions unfilled or filled them with increasingly incompetent people. He has lied to the American public and the world on a whole range of topics in a way that is unfathomable since he was elected. He has shown incompetence as a leader (why the hell is Ben Carson the head of HUD?). He has shown evidence of obstruction of justice, and that of course makes people wonder why. You don't obstruct justice if you are innocent.
3) First of all, I do not whine. I tell it like it is. You just don't like it because the facts are not as you wish them to be. Also, there is no point in mentioning how long I have been "whining". Investigations take time. The only relevance to the length of time is that it will show how long I knew what that outcome for Trump would be, and it will not end well for him.
4) You are incorrect that I will say Trump got off easy and that he should have been thrown out. You obviously do not understand how a person with integrity behaves. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of people out there to model that for you. Check it - If Mueller's team delivers information that does not lead to Trump's ouster in any way, then I will accept that finding. We are a Rule of Law nation, and I will respect and accept the findings.
5) I have never put a time frame on Mueller's investigation, so Trump could be re-elected in 2020 if Mueller is still working at that time, and that would not prove me wrong. I will only be wrong if Mueller wraps up his investigation and Trump is indeed NOT done at that point.
6) Hillary was a flawed candidate, I agree, but that has nothing to do with how horrible Trump is. How much she lied compared to Obama is also not relevant. Donald Trump is the Liar in Chief. It is not even close. That man lies on average 5.5 times a day publicly as has been shown by fact checkers. By comparison, Obama was found to lie 18 times in 8 years. Apples to very little oranges.
Your confidence in a man who is facing so many different ways to be unseated is odd. You should not believe the things the majority of the people on Fox News tell you. If you HAVE to watch Fox News, listen to Chris Wallace and Shep Smith...they provide some sun in that wool-over-the-eyes network.
You should know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
GeeseGander wrote:
No, it's not indicative of such. We all thought the same thing with Clinton, and she skated after lying over and over under oath.
Flagpole is far from smart. He's just wants to rant and be heard, yet his substance is lacking. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, live with it. As dozens of others have said, he's been on here for how many months whining? Fall will come and he'll be saying Trump got off easy and should have been thrown out. Bookmark my post, I guarantee you he'll still be President. Next time put in a better candidate than Clinton, she lied more than Obama!
1) Which Clinton lied over and over under oath? Only Bill did that, and it wasn't really over and over. But he did do it. Hillary has not been charged with lying under oath at all, and despite what Trump says about her, she never lied to the FBI.
2) This has nothing to do with Trump beating Hillary. You can't cling to that now very suspect victory forever. This has to do with everything we have learned about Trump since he was elected. He fired Comey after he was elected. He has fired everyone and their brother since he was elected and either left those positions unfilled or filled them with increasingly incompetent people. He has lied to the American public and the world on a whole range of topics in a way that is unfathomable since he was elected. He has shown incompetence as a leader (why the hell is Ben Carson the head of HUD?). He has shown evidence of obstruction of justice, and that of course makes people wonder why. You don't obstruct justice if you are innocent.
3) First of all, I do not whine. I tell it like it is. You just don't like it because the facts are not as you wish them to be. Also, there is no point in mentioning how long I have been "whining". Investigations take time. The only relevance to the length of time is that it will show how long I knew what that outcome for Trump would be, and it will not end well for him.
4) You are incorrect that I will say Trump got off easy and that he should have been thrown out. You obviously do not understand how a person with integrity behaves. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of people out there to model that for you. Check it - If Mueller's team delivers information that does not lead to Trump's ouster in any way, then I will accept that finding. We are a Rule of Law nation, and I will respect and accept the findings.
5) I have never put a time frame on Mueller's investigation, so Trump could be re-elected in 2020 if Mueller is still working at that time, and that would not prove me wrong. I will only be wrong if Mueller wraps up his investigation and Trump is indeed NOT done at that point.
6) Hillary was a flawed candidate, I agree, but that has nothing to do with how horrible Trump is. How much she lied compared to Obama is also not relevant. Donald Trump is the Liar in Chief. It is not even close. That man lies on average 5.5 times a day publicly as has been shown by fact checkers. By comparison, Obama was found to lie 18 times in 8 years. Apples to very little oranges.
Your confidence in a man who is facing so many different ways to be unseated is odd. You should not believe the things the majority of the people on Fox News tell you. If you HAVE to watch Fox News, listen to Chris Wallace and Shep Smith...they provide some sun in that wool-over-the-eyes network.
You should know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Now that is what I call an asymmetrical smack down!
Given how long the Bill Clinton investigation took I’m willing to bet this keeps going until after 2020. I don’t think Mueller wants his findings to be used as political ammo after the fact. If Trump loses then his findings are against a civilian.....if he wins his findings are against a lame duck.
Alan
HS grad??? wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
That's only because they have been brainwashed by their liberal professors, and are clearly misguided.
So, you only managed to make it through high school? Got turned down by colleges due to low test scores, and low GPA? No wonder you are a Republican. ... LOL...
Ha, ha, haaaaaa to poster "HS grad???" who's probably been held back 5 times and still can't get out of high school. What's wrong snowflake, no free liberal programs to pass you along, lol