Don't post it until Rob confirms what he is wearing. It can be a tranny working down the street at that hour and he will confirm that it was him.
Don't post it until Rob confirms what he is wearing. It can be a tranny working down the street at that hour and he will confirm that it was him.
Moo Goo wrote:
Don't post it until Rob confirms what he is wearing. It can be a tranny working down the street at that hour and he will confirm that it was him.
Good point
Moo Goo wrote:
Don't post it until Rob confirms what he is wearing. It can be a tranny working down the street at that hour and he will confirm that it was him.
That was just Rob running in his kilt!
Anderson Cooper CNN wrote:
MightyUlist wrote:On the flip side, while the Ulisters do the heavy lifting on the road outing this fraudster, the run of the mill LRCer kid is safely hunkered down in his mom's air conditioned basement frantically refreshing his LRC browser session, only taking breaks when his mom calls him up for meals.
Good times.
Not really an endorsement for the wisdom of a ulister there. Think about it for a moment.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it Coop?
I suppose Rob's military service needs to be verified too now after the Milram scam etc and if this blokes anything to go by:
Endurance race organiser admits he lied about being an ex-Royal Marine
Real-life Walter Mitty who built Spartan Race series into multi-million international business admits he lied about military past
and his school A level exam quals
sad he should though
Bob Hearn wrote:
Tornado the Little wrote:Wiki states his PR is 139 miles in 24 hours, but I could not find evidence of this in any database. When or where he supposedly ran it is anyone's guess.
That is, again, a respectable tally for 24h, but even elite women are running further during the world championship, for example. Connie Gardner ran 150+ at the age of 50. Rob's total, if it were verified on an official certified course, wouldn't raise many eyebrows.
I can find no 24-hour results for him listed either on ultrasignup or on statistik.d-u-v.org, the two places results should be.
You are right, 139 is respectable, but not spectacular. It would not be good enough to make the US National Team most years (yes, LRers, we may not have ultras in the Olympics, but there are actually World Championships). It could, however, well be consistent for someone whose true strength is at multiday races.
FWIW Connie has not quite hit 150. Her PR is 149.37, at age 49 (4th-best ever American performance, and an age-group American Record).
http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getintbestlist.php?year=all&dist=24h&gender=W&cat=all&nat=USA&label=&hili=USA&tt=netto&Submit.x=18&Submit.y=11
Late response. I have a life outside this forum.
I stand corrected.
I'm thinking of NC24 which was a .9 mile loop at Edgewater Park in Cleveland, about an hour from home.
I believe she came close or exceeded 150 laps. Many 24h courses are a mile. Northcoast always throws me off.
LT
Definitely. Military/marines/green beret/CIA/FBI/navy seal are the biggest fantasy of narcissistic super heroes. Blame it on Chunk Norris movies.
Asher Delmott wrote:
arealpersson wrote:I originally came on here because somebody posted up some legitimate questions about whether this was happening at all. I still do not understand how that footage was taken without being able to keep up wth the van and ask the occupants where Rob is. Responses to this question have been flimsy to say the least.
Your post containing this except was well thought out. I believe you are sincere about this, so I will try to explain my experience specifically as it relates to this question.
I drove down the highway to find Rob so I could run with him. I looked at the tracker while I was still home, so I didn't know how far he would be from me once I reached the highway. I figured the easiest way to find him at that point would be to dice down the highway, then stop at the intersection ahead and wait until he got there, then start running with him. I drove down the highway, and saw the RV but not Rob. After a few more miles of driving. I checked the tracker, and it said he was behind me. I turned around, and started driving back toward the rv. No matter what, I had to drive back past the rv, so I decided to film as I drove by (the 1:45 video). Again I didn't see any runner. I parked ahead a little ways off the highway. I ran back to the highway, and toward the rv. At this point, I had a choice. Let the rv come up to me while I am blinded by the headlights, or get off to the side and see if I missed Rob running on the side of the RV (although unlikely because there is no good shoulder there). Right it wrong, I opted to get off to the side and take another video (the 1:53 video). Like I said before, 2 night videos are better than 1 if something fishy is going on.
After that video I ran out behind the rv, and was catching up. If I would have caught up, I would have talked to them. Unfortunately, I saw someone get OUT of the rv, but they got back in and drove away to quickly to catch up since I was still on foot. Why I didn't say something when the person got out, I honestly can't say. Maybe I was to dumbfounded that someone got out, maybe they got back in too quick, maybe it's because I'm generally a quite person, and didn't want to yell.
Anyway, their driving away was the icing on the cheating cake to me. After this, there was no way i was going to try to talk to them.
I find it quite possible they were scared when I was coming up behind them, as they said in their in their recent video response. However, I maintain there was no runner beside the rv which they have said he was. I don't think it has been addressed why we don't see a flashlight in the video since they say he had one.
Thanks for your response Asher and for giving more detail. I guess not knowing you and your motivation, from the limited info I had it seemed more like you were going out to catch a cheat. I wouldn't have had a problem with that if that was the case. Just felt like there was no need to pretend you were going out to support Rob. Apologies if I read that wrong. It goes to show it is easy to jump to conclusions from limited data. It is probably just a very different approach to what I would have done. I would definitely have gone and flagged them down and asked where Rob was I would probably have alerted them I was coming beforehand too, it being the middle of the night. I'm sure there is an explanation for the video and I don't think the half explanation on fb has really helped. Looking forward to seeing what your further car wash footage reveals.
curiously interested wrote:
So which narrative is the real Rob Young?
(1) The champion triathlete who was also going to climb the three highest peaks in the UK and bike between them and finish with a long run of undetermined distance (as this 2004 article claims)? (Did he actually do this?)
(2) The 5K recreational runner who became an instant marathoner on a whim with no training after watching the London Marathon in 2014 and then ran his first 10 marathons in 7 days, including his first 3 progressively faster in the first 30 hours of that stretch? (as his book claims)
I'm still trying to reconcile his book with data that's been uncovered.
I want to give Rob a fair shake. I reread the opening section of his book again. Even though he clearly claims to never have run a marathon until April 14-15 when he suddenly ran 3 (and then 7 more that week), he does acknowledge his cycling and triathlete background, and the line I did not remember and had overlooked was that he admits that his fitness had been dormant for 7 years. Here's the quote over 2 paragraphs:
". . . I was just a 31-year-old office worker who hadn't run his first marathon yet.
Though that's not strictly true. I had been in the Army in my twenties and I was always the one who could march the furthest and the quickest with a heavy pack. Then I was a pro cyclist for a while and represented Britain as a junior triathlete, so I knew I had some sporting ability and a talent for endurance. That kind of thing doesn't just disappear -- even if it had been lying dormant in me for the last seven years. . . ."
So he does admit to being rather inactive from 2007-14 and acknowledge his past endurance training as a cyclist and triathlete. This helps reconcile the two narratives that seemed mutually exclusive.
I still think it's crazy to think that as a 21:xx 5K runner, he suddenly on a whim and without training ran his first marathon in 4:07, then nine hours later ran his second one 40 minutes faster in 3:28, and then seven hours later on less than fours sleep ran his third ever in the even faster time of 3:19. The times should deteriorate, not progress. Also, in his mapmyrun data, he labeled his 4:07:31 marathon as "AFTERNOON 2ND MARATHON IN A [DAY]." So it sounds like in the book he possibly rearranged his first two marathons so that maybe his first was 3:28 and then his second that same day was 4:07 if his mapmyrun data is correct. I can't see what his time was for his third marathon was in mapmyrun.
And also, the detailed description of the course in the book does not match the mapmyrun data he posted, and the location of his friend Eva and his GF/partner Joanna to verify these initial marathons would not be possible based on his mapmyrun data. In the book he claims to have run a four-loop course in Richmond Park, but the mapmyrun data has him going from Twickenham, then three-quarters of the way around Richmond Park, and then out towards London and finishing in Regent's Park 11 miles from his start.
But I want to give Rob a fair shake that he does acknowledge a seven-year hiatus as an endurance athlete before he allegedly took up marathoning. That helps with his backstory.
Nobody special wrote:
He already has done one transcontinental run. If you believe that one was legit there is no reason to believe he doesn't finish this one with this newfound scrutiny.
That race was very different to this. 26 miles a day, or thereabouts. And i'm not convinced that was legit now. He arrived at the finish BEFORE the organisers got there. Maybe it was a practice run to cheat, to see how easy it would be to go back and cheat a world record
Podund Town wrote:
Anderson Cooper CNN wrote:Who else is walking down the street in Podunk besides him at 2:00am?
Obviously not that axe wielding murderer they were worried about half an hour earlier when puny little non-threatening Asher tried to talk to them on the open road.
Is somebody keeping score? Cause this post here deserves points.
LRC- no boots on the ground wrote:
Boots on the ground? wrote:Illinois sucks! No runners, nor decent sized towns, nor car wash cams. We need the Indiana runners to head over and get some video of this traveling clown show and real time eyewitness reporting!
Still very surprised that nobody from LRC has followed Rob other than Asher. College kids are out of school, teachers are home for the summer, some folks are on vacation and plenty are unemployed living in Mommy's basement. Are there any brave souls who will get into their cars or bikes and start following this guy? Is everybody afraid of Rob and his crew on the RV? I'm afraid this fraud is going to break the record and boots on the ground is the sure way to keep him honest.
What about that school teacher from Terre Haute? Rob's heading your way. Are you going to follow him or did you back out?
I'm astonished people weren't following him as soon as the first video got posted and the thread started.. I'd LOVE to get there, but i'm in the uk. I hadn't really thought about the route and how many towns it went through. I just assumed lots of you could trail him.
Do we have the denouement of the troll or have we jumped the shark with this one?
Asher Delmott wrote:
SloughRunner wrote:Am I right that judging from the Car Wash footage, we can safely say that the stretch form Emporia to Lebo was covered in the RV?
I am told Rob asked for an additional 15 minutes of footage from the car wash after the rv passed. I have obtained that video, and there are two people that pass by (independently). One is clearly not Rob. It is possible the other is Rob. I have messaged him directly through Facebook to see if he would like to provide any details about his trip through Emporia before I post it. Right now, believers would believe and doubters would doubt, but any details he gives could help one way or the other. Although, the Lebo incident has not been sufficiently explained, it is slightly possible he ran through emporia. I'll let you all know what response I get from Rob (and/or crew) when I post the video(s).
big Al wrote:
LRC- no boots on the ground wrote:Still very surprised that nobody from LRC has followed Rob other than Asher. College kids are out of school, teachers are home for the summer, some folks are on vacation and plenty are unemployed living in Mommy's basement. Are there any brave souls who will get into their cars or bikes and start following this guy? Is everybody afraid of Rob and his crew on the RV? I'm afraid this fraud is going to break the record and boots on the ground is the sure way to keep him honest.
What about that school teacher from Terre Haute? Rob's heading your way. Are you going to follow him or did you back out?
I'm astonished people weren't following him as soon as the first video got posted and the thread started.. I'd LOVE to get there, but i'm in the uk. I hadn't really thought about the route and how many towns it went through. I just assumed lots of you could trail him.
The US is just a bit bigger than the UK and we don't have any social network and thus have to work 24/7.
Pages ago, someone raised the question as to whether any transcon "record" should be called a "world record" or simply a "fastest known time." Also, pages ago, rojo asked what the record was and how do we know if it is legit or not.
On Rob's Facebook page, someone posted this pic of a page from "46 Days" about Frank Giannino who currently holds the transcon record.
Here's the book on amazon:
Evidently there were questions about Frank's record and also Stan Cottrell's record before that.
In a comment, someone stated that Frank Giannino's transcon record averaging 66 miles a day was questionable because he evidently never ran an ultra. Is that true?
I guess all this is considered a "world record" because it involves Guinness and their standards. But shouldn't all of this simply be a FKT instead?
Thoughts?
Phoobic Placer wrote:
Do we have the denouement of the troll or have we jumped the shark with this one?
Asher Delmott wrote:I am told Rob asked for an additional 15 minutes of footage from the car wash after the rv passed. I have obtained that video, and there are two people that pass by (independently). One is clearly not Rob. It is possible the other is Rob. I have messaged him directly through Facebook to see if he would like to provide any details about his trip through Emporia before I post it. Right now, believers would believe and doubters would doubt, but any details he gives could help one way or the other. Although, the Lebo incident has not been sufficiently explained, it is slightly possible he ran through emporia. I'll let you all know what response I get from Rob (and/or crew) when I post the video(s).
2300 post troll?
Father Knows Best wrote:
It's quite simple really. He has a treadmill in the RV. When it becomes dark or the road has no safe shoulder he merely runs on the treadmill at the appropriate speed. Pure Genius.
You've got a weird mind man, and I like it! LOL. Genius.
TroLLminator wrote:
The US is just a bit bigger than the UK and we don't have any social network and thus have to work 24/7.
It's a "social safety net" you nitwit.
Phoobic Placer wrote:
2300 post troll?
That's why they are erecting a statue of him in Lebo.