DiscoGary wrote:
If Russian collusion was blatant then why did Mueller's team release a report that they had charged a dozen Russians for nothing worse than identity theft on a Friday night during a school shooting news cycle? The only reason they did that was because they have nothing and needed to boost the "look how many people have been caught in Trump's russia scandal" number so that you guys can come on here and say "Mueller's already got 20 people. Trump must be next."
Mueller has nothing.
Mueller will take down Trump by persecuting his old business partners with endless investigations, trivial perjury charges, and lawsuits. That's the plan right now, and when Trump figures out that his agenda is dead he might realize that it isn't worth the fight any more. It will take Trump a couple of weeks to fully understand the depth of the mistake he made today. It will be interesting to see what he does when it sinks in.
That was just the appetizer to measure the reaction
XY wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, Ryan's "memo" actually explains how Mr. P. was generating red flags because of a recent trip to Russia. And then he was plucked out of relative obscurity to work the Trump campaign, then publicly praised by Trump. Of course, as things looked bad for Mr. P., Trump declares it "so long ago" and immaterial.
BTW, you'll note how the Trumpbots stick to one single word, "collusion" then shift the definition around as needed.
There is no question Trump is under the influence of the Russian State. The legal consequences of that aren't known. It's uncharted legal territory.
For any legal proceedings beyond a special council, the burden of proof will be to show knowledge and intent. Good luck proving that against Trump.
Who knows! I certainly don't. The executive powers of the President play into this situation as does both houses of Congress. I certainly have no idea how it will play out legally.
I am confident that money laundering will be found to be the source of Trump's wealth. That is already obvious.
Christ, this guy! wrote:
Are you seriously THIS delusional? You honestly believe that Trump is being "persecuted"? How? How is that even remotely possible?
You're disappointing, DG.
It's far more common an opinion than you think, until today.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
I am confident that money laundering will be found to be the source of Trump's wealth. That is already obvious.
It is all about the money to Trump. But he is 100% a long-range Russian asset--a useful idiot as Putin would call many of his assets.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
XY wrote:
For any legal proceedings beyond a special council, the burden of proof will be to show knowledge and intent. Good luck proving that against Trump.
Who knows! I certainly don't. The executive powers of the President play into this situation as does both houses of Congress. I certainly have no idea how it will play out legally.
I am confident that money laundering will be found to be the source of Trump's wealth. That is already obvious.
Yup,agreed.
By the time the whole investigation is wrapped up and any potential legal proceedings begin, he’ll be a lame duck pres. anyhow. I’m worried he’s going to try to start a war to improve his image in the mean time.
Fox is already spinning it as Trump the lone warrior.
Money laundering, tax fraud, embezzlement, sexual assault are most likely
XY wrote:
Money laundering, tax fraud, embezzlement, sexual assault are most likely
Election fraud is looking more, and more likely as a major indictment. Trump's list of indictments will rather long.
Election Fraud wrote:
XY wrote:
Money laundering, tax fraud, embezzlement, sexual assault are most likely
Election fraud is looking more, and more likely as a major indictment. Trump's list of indictments will rather long.
That would be both astounding and confusing.
XY wrote:
Election Fraud wrote:
Election fraud is looking more, and more likely as a major indictment. Trump's list of indictments will rather long.
That would be both astounding and confusing.
Not at all. Obvious election manipulation (fraud) is something that has to have severe consequences.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
There you have it folks: people with an education much more strongly agree with Dem ideas/principles. Those without much of an education, especially the ones that are the angry, bible clinging, gun lovin', opioid addicted, minority hatin', white men without much of an education, they REALLY love the R's and Trump. (even though Dems want to do more for them as far as min wage, job training, social services, taxes, etc, etc, etc)
Nice team you got there Disco!
That's kind of typical for young people though, and then they don't vote.
what are you talking about? These aren't necessarily "young people" (though they are on the younger side on average). This measures all with a college degree or who have pursued post grad degrees. Some are in their 20's, some in their 30's, some in their 40's, etc.
Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?
DiscoGary wrote:
When I say Trump showed the way, I mean we saw how a 3rd party candidate could defeat all existing powers at the same time. That remains a staggering achievement. Now we just need someone with a little more ideological backbone to go down the same path. .
If he really wanted to show "how a 3rd party candidate" could win, he should have run as one. He had the $.
But in the end he adopted so many typical right wing policy positions, straight on down the line.
He wasn't a 3rd party candidate. No, just a right wing extremist with the occasional nod to a left wing position that he never actually had the, to borrow your word, "backbone" to follow through on.
Flagpole wrote:
OK Guy wrote:
OK, Flagpole. Enough with the 'Noticer of dominance' nonsense. It's really kind of embarrassing to watch.
Not me, brother.
WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah right!
WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF 'Noticer of dominance' is NOT Flagpole, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roger Stone: Bolton is a vast improvement over McMaster
Election Fraud wrote:
XY wrote:
Money laundering, tax fraud, embezzlement, sexual assault are most likely
Election fraud is looking more, and more likely as a major indictment. Trump's list of indictments will rather long.
Election Fraud??? You're a flaming idiot on all levels. Please don't have children as the human race thanks you in advance.
JUST wow!!!!!! wrote:
Election Fraud???
HI JAMIN + HARDLOPER!!!!! :-)
jamin wrote:
Roger Stone: Bolton is a vast improvement over McMaster
Nope.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/us/politics/bolton-cambridge-analyticas-facebook-data.htmlWell, bye.
OK Guy wrote:
Yeah right!
WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF 'Noticer of dominance' is NOT Flagpole, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It's not an achievement. It's actually proof that the corrupt system did get more corrupt. That a self-proclaimed billionaire blowh@rd with zero public governance experience won a presidential election by using divisive tactics and appealing to racists and conspiracists goes to show just how bad things had gotten. I will point to our ultra low voter turnout rates as further proof. Anyone who runs for POTUS should be scrutinized to no end and held to the highest standards, it is the most important job in our country after all.
Hillary vs Trump was a no brainer, no matter how bad she was there is no way she could have done a worse job than he has thus far. Do not try to use any measure of equivalence to justify your terrible vote, it'll just make you look dumber.
Clinton Crime Family Foundation pay-for-play scandal + Uranium One, but you are incapable of processing this information from within the liberal media rat maze where reality has been distorted to make those scandals vanish.
They were "investigated by Republicans" right? Right, the same Republicans who just scammed Trump. Those guys. Yeah, they're really working against Democrats aren't they.
I guess you can keep your conspiracy theories, if it makes you feel better, as consolation for being duped.