Official LRC Kamala Harris for President Thread

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) NOPE!

2) I did say that Hillary would win unless Trump cheated. I said this then because Trump was appearing like he MIGHT cheat, and I expected the race to be very close. Trump cheated, and therefore I was not wrong.

3) I have already stated the following, but I will do so again...Harris wins this time EVEN IF TRUMP CHEATS. She will have to die OR aliens from another planet will have to come down here and make us all vote for Trump for Trump to win. So, two caveats there...got it? Harris dies, or the alien thing.

You Trumpers are going to be very surprised at how soundly Trump is defeated. Here are the reasons:

1) The 13 Keys say she will win. Now, the keys don't predict how BIG of a margin of victory there will be, only who will win. HOWEVER, 6 keys need to be turned in favor of the challenger Party (for Trump), and in this race only 4 have been with no chance for any more to be turned. THIS is really the only one that matters. The rest below are just reasons that people aren't flocking to Trump all of a sudden after he has led nothing but losing elections since he won in 2016.

2) The abortion issue. The GOP shot themselves in the foot with their very unpopular stance on abortion. Young voters and women of all ages have registered to vote in droves because of this. HUGE pro-choice victory elections have been had in red states like Ohio and Kansas. The GOP went way too far. In Ohio, Republicans tried to get a ban after 6 weeks with no exception for rape or incest. Um...sorry, but that's not what 70% of the electorate wants. So, this went to a vote to add abortion protections to the state Constitution. It passed easily...in this very red state. The law now in Ohio is a woman can get an abortion for any reason up to 22 weeks along. I personally am a bit squeamish about that, but the fact is that the vast majority of abortions happen well before that, and the vast majority of those performed around that far along are because of major complications that could harm the mother. 15 weeks would have been a better compromise (with exceptions), but here in Ohio, the GOP wanted to impose draconian laws...as is the case in many other red states. Um...NOPE!

3) Trump is a convicted felon who is facing at least two other indictments that will go to trial. I know this doesn't matter to you Trumper fools, but it does to people on the fence, and Trump needs fence sitters.

4) Trump is old and looks it.

5) Trump has former staff members (HIGH positions) campaigning against him and calling him unhinged and unfit to serve. This means a lot to many people.

6) Since the Dobbs Decision, Democrats have been greatly under represented in polling, often even beyond the margin of error. Polling doesn't matter anyway (only the 13 Keys do), but, polling is giving you Trumpers a sense of security that isn't there.

7) Trump wants to be a dictator. He has already said that if he wins there won't need to be any more elections, AND he recently said that he would use the National Guard and "the military" to go after those on the "radical left"...AND he named BOTH Pelosis and Adam Schiff. So, NUTSO. Sorry Trumpers, but most Americans aren't for the President sending the military after political rivals. And NO, Democrats aren't doing that to Trump. Donald Trump is in trouble legally NOT because he's a political opponent, but because he engaged in criminal behavior. He's a CONVICTED FELON, and he will be convicted of more crimes.

8) Just as a reminder, many of you Trumpers were certain Trump would beat Biden in 2020. How did that work out for ya? I called that race and ONLY got the state of Florida wrong. I also correctly called both Obama victories, and of course was right in 2016 because Trump cheated. You will all see just how right I am. Kamala Harris wins. It's over.

1. You are a weasel

2. Trump won fair & square

3. You're insane

The 13 Keys is biased nonsense from a toupee wearing lib who's been wrong before.

Abortion is not a make or break FEDERAL issue for Trump in 2024. It is now a state by state issue.

Trump's convictions will be eventually overturned in higher courts.

Trump is indeed old, but chickensh!t Cackles is a word salad disaster who runs away from UNSCRIPTED interviews and hides in the basement. Trump is fearless and will talk to ANYBODY friend or foe.

Trump's fatal mistake in his first term was hiring RINOS and listening to establishment swamp creatures like Cocaine Mitch. He knows who the backstabbers are this time around. He will not allow any Obama/Biden era leaders in the DOJ to stick around. Trump will have a higher percentage of MA6A members in the Senate & House to pass legislation. He will get more done. I very much look forward to Elon eliminating waste in our Government too.

Trump will be a dictator on DAY ONE, to draft his EO's to close the damn border and stop the illegal alien invasion. We the People support that. Commies like you don't.

#FTLH

Mean tweets 2024!

Better luck in 2028!

Flagpole wrote:

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

1. You are a weasel

2. Trump won fair & square

3. You're insane

The 13 Keys is biased nonsense from a toupee wearing lib who's been wrong before.

Abortion is not a make or break FEDERAL issue for Trump in 2024. It is now a state by state issue.

Trump's convictions will be eventually overturned in higher courts.

Trump is indeed old, but chickensh!t Cackles is a word salad disaster who runs away from UNSCRIPTED interviews and hides in the basement. Trump is fearless and will talk to ANYBODY friend or foe.

Trump's fatal mistake in his first term was hiring RINOS and listening to establishment swamp creatures like Cocaine Mitch. He knows who the backstabbers are this time around. He will not allow any Obama/Biden era leaders in the DOJ to stick around. Trump will have a higher percentage of MA6A members in the Senate & House to pass legislation. He will get more done. I very much look forward to Elon eliminating waste in our Government too.

Trump will be a dictator on DAY ONE, to draft his EO's to close the damn border and stop the illegal alien invasion. We the People support that. Commies like you don't.

#FTLH

Mean tweets 2024!

Better luck in 2028!

1) I didn't say Trump didn't win fair and square. I said he CHEATED, and he did. We can never know if the cheating allowed him to win or not, but my condition was JUST that if he would cheat. I have said many times that I accept his victory...HOWEVER, I said he could not win without cheating, and he cheated. Simple as that.

2) I'm no weasel. What I am is a guy who KNOWS who will win...and that will be Kamala Harris.

3) I am not insane at all.

4) Allan Lichtman actually does NOT wear a toupee...he has said so many times and pulled on his hair to show that. Whether he has been wrong before is up for debate (Gore vs. Bush) since it WAS determined later that Florida illegally threw out a lot of votes that would have given Gore the victory. Even if you don't accept that, the track record is STILL the best predictor we have, and it is NOT biased at all...not even a little bit. And, if you want to hang your hat on a method getting the closest election wrong since the 1950s, then, um, ok.

5) The 13 Keys actually are NOT biased at all...that's the thing about them. Based in fundamentals over time back to the 1860s that have seen Presidents win. You are wrong to discount them, and you do so at your peril. You really show your deep, deep ignorance here.

6) Trump will not escape justice. You are wrong about that.

7) Abortion absolutely IS an issue (just another wish of yours that it isn't). Harris wants to codify Abortion rights. Trump absolutely WILL sign a national ban if he's in. People know it. He and the GOP are not to be trusted with that issue in any way, and voting is going to show that (but again, it's the 13 Keys that have called this, and the abortion issue wasn't needed).

8) You are clearly deeply in your cult to think that Harris is "word salad" and Trump is better. Kamala Harris is many deviations of the mean smarter than Trump, and that is evidenced by everything she does including speaking.

9) The rest of your nonsense is Trump cult fever dream stuff.

Harris is going to win, and it's not even going to be that close. It's over. Get your blankie and hot cocoa ready. You're going to need them.

Trumpy Tadpole wrote:

keep dreaming wrote:

It's not that I assume that. It's that I remember he had plenty of those people around him the first time and the current Supreme court has been siding with him since his time in office. It didn't matter then and it likely won't matter now.

Mostly it’s that I come from a military family of patriots and I refuse to believe Trump is going to end this great country. I've also been alive long enough to witness the constant 'sky is falling' rhetoric from the media. Yes, bad stuff happens, but life goes on. Most of the time the bad stuff that happens is not the stuff people are worried about.

I appreciate this post. You gave your viewpoint that you don’t believe Trump will actually do the things he regularly says he will do. I rank you higher than posters that refuse to even acknowledge the things Trump says.

Last week Trump said the enemy within is a greater threat than China and Russia. And the national guard and military may be needed to handle them because they are crazy and dangerous

His sycophants ran to cable news to whitewash that statement and say he meant dangerous immigrants. Then Trump said he meant people like Pelosi and Schiff. He named lawmakers as his targets. Which is no surprise because he has said similar things dozens of times.

Here is my question; What safeguards do we have that would prevent Trump from doing this? Why do you feel Trump would be unable to execute his wishes?

Flagpole wrote:

Trumpy Tadpole wrote:

I appreciate this post. You gave your viewpoint that you don’t believe Trump will actually do the things he regularly says he will do. I rank you higher than posters that refuse to even acknowledge the things Trump says.

Last week Trump said the enemy within is a greater threat than China and Russia. And the national guard and military may be needed to handle them because they are crazy and dangerous

His sycophants ran to cable news to whitewash that statement and say he meant dangerous immigrants. Then Trump said he meant people like Pelosi and Schiff. He named lawmakers as his targets. Which is no surprise because he has said similar things dozens of times.

Here is my question; What safeguards do we have that would prevent Trump from doing this? Why do you feel Trump would be unable to execute his wishes?

CORRECT! Trump said he will use the military to go after Paul and Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff (those are the ones he mentioned by name) and then called out other "radical left" members. If he thinks Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff are "radical left", then he's going after pretty much the whole Democratic Party. ALL of that is INSANE talk.

There are no safeguards this time if he were to be elected again. He knows know who all the Yes Men are. He has no need to try to win another election. He will do whatever it is he wants to do.

He is a serious danger to our country. He's a convicted felon. He's a serial liar. He's a racist. He's a sexist. He's stupid. He has no respect for the rule of law or military people or anyone really other than dictators. He's full of sin. He's a narcissist. He's a psychopath. He's the most flawed person by far to ever win the Presidency.

The good news is, he's going to lose. Harris wins. It's over.

Real Obvi wrote:

keep dreaming wrote:

You must have forgot that Pence didn't go along with Trump's plans.

Also, you guys are living in a fantasy if you think the our military Generals are going to go along with Trump trying to become a dictator. The military is loyal to the US not Trump.

First of all, I appreciate your posts. Well thought out, substantive . . . Good stuff.

There are two areas where my perspective differs from yours - mine is far more pessimistic.

1) You seem to be focusing on what Trump will do, or be able to do, in a second term. You seem to take some comfort in Trump being old, feeble and incompetent. I agree that he is all of these things. But I am not sure that it matters.

If Trump wins, it is not just Trump who takes over, or even primarily Trump. It is the entire gang behind Project 2025. While Trump focuses on pardoning himself for every conceivable crime, getting revenge on his "enemies" and grifting, the rest of his team may well be competently focusing on essentially turning the US into a monarchy. Will they succeed? I don't claim to know but I am far from sanguine about the prospects of the US emerging from another Trump term relatively intact.

2) I have virtually no hope of the military coming to the rescue of the nation. A) Their modus operandi is to avoid getting involved with internal matters - does anyone think that the military would march on the White House and force Trump to leave? and B) They report directly to the POTUS. And following the chain of command and following orders seem pretty central to everything the military does.

keep dreaming wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

First of all, I appreciate your posts. Well thought out, substantive . . . Good stuff.

There are two areas where my perspective differs from yours - mine is far more pessimistic.

1) You seem to be focusing on what Trump will do, or be able to do, in a second term. You seem to take some comfort in Trump being old, feeble and incompetent. I agree that he is all of these things. But I am not sure that it matters.

If Trump wins, it is not just Trump who takes over, or even primarily Trump. It is the entire gang behind Project 2025. While Trump focuses on pardoning himself for every conceivable crime, getting revenge on his "enemies" and grifting, the rest of his team may well be competently focusing on essentially turning the US into a monarchy. Will they succeed? I don't claim to know but I am far from sanguine about the prospects of the US emerging from another Trump term relatively intact.

2) I have virtually no hope of the military coming to the rescue of the nation. A) Their modus operandi is to avoid getting involved with internal matters - does anyone think that the military would march on the White House and force Trump to leave? and B) They report directly to the POTUS. And following the chain of command and following orders seem pretty central to everything the military does.

While I think the Project 2025 stuff and the people behind it is worrisome, I doubt Trump cares much about it if it doesn't have anything to do making him more rich. True, I am banking on him f&cking it up for them by being who he is. Maybe he won't get in their way and he will let them execute their plans. Its possible, but I am just going on how he has always been.

While true the military reports directly to POTUS most of the people at the top of the military are not going to go along with Trump becoming a dictator. While I am sure there are some convincing arguments for how it could play out and that could happen, I guarantee you that there are plans for such an event already. Special instructions on how it would be handled that I don't presume to know but I am certain they have already gone through this scenario and will not go along with a rogue president.

WORLDS APART wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) I didn't say Trump didn't win fair and square. I said he CHEATED, and he did. We can never know if the cheating allowed him to win or not, but my condition was JUST that if he would cheat. I have said many times that I accept his victory...HOWEVER, I said he could not win without cheating, and he cheated. Simple as that.

2) I'm no weasel. What I am is a guy who KNOWS who will win...and that will be Kamala Harris.

3) I am not insane at all.

4) Allan Lichtman actually does NOT wear a toupee...he has said so many times and pulled on his hair to show that. Whether he has been wrong before is up for debate (Gore vs. Bush) since it WAS determined later that Florida illegally threw out a lot of votes that would have given Gore the victory. Even if you don't accept that, the track record is STILL the best predictor we have, and it is NOT biased at all...not even a little bit. And, if you want to hang your hat on a method getting the closest election wrong since the 1950s, then, um, ok.

5) The 13 Keys actually are NOT biased at all...that's the thing about them. Based in fundamentals over time back to the 1860s that have seen Presidents win. You are wrong to discount them, and you do so at your peril. You really show your deep, deep ignorance here.

6) Trump will not escape justice. You are wrong about that.

7) Abortion absolutely IS an issue (just another wish of yours that it isn't). Harris wants to codify Abortion rights. Trump absolutely WILL sign a national ban if he's in. People know it. He and the GOP are not to be trusted with that issue in any way, and voting is going to show that (but again, it's the 13 Keys that have called this, and the abortion issue wasn't needed).

8) You are clearly deeply in your cult to think that Harris is "word salad" and Trump is better. Kamala Harris is many deviations of the mean smarter than Trump, and that is evidenced by everything she does including speaking.

9) The rest of your nonsense is Trump cult fever dream stuff.

Harris is going to win, and it's not even going to be that close. It's over. Get your blankie and hot cocoa ready. You're going to need them.

Although it's early, this is not good news for Republicans who would like the abortion issue to just go away:

"One in five respondents who said they've already voted cited "abortion rights/women's rights" as their most important issue, with the second being the economy and inflation."

Link:www.independent.co.uk/news/world/ameri...