I actually spent my day today out in Trump country. Rural Midwest. There are many Trump signs. Billboards, yard signs, extravagant displays. And yes, unfortunately, it does seem to be a lower income mindset that feels the need to identify that way.
The people I was with business-wise were pretty passionate about GOP politics. They would find a way to work the election into every conversation. Most of it, however, seemed to be general slogans I've heard (and more or less agree with) about the GOP being the party of conservatism, fiscal economics, strong defense, patriotism, individual responsibility, and small federal government. None of it seemed to be about any particular attributes about Trump at all. Many seemed to deliberately avoid mentioning him.
I was meeting with a more Evangelical Christian (and very hard working) type of MAG@s. In fact, I'd hardly call them MAG@s at all for the reasons set forth above. They seemed to be just old school GOP.
So I took some comfort from my day. A hope that MAG@ isn't really about what Trump is and the un-American sh!t he stands for, but rather a misguided, ignorant view that he's just the current conservative candidate. Am I unwise to feel this solace? It feels better than believing there are actually large amounts of people who believe Trump and MAG@ism.
Don't worry, Trump's still winning.
Start panicking.
I'll take your word for it, Igloo. I won't be panicking. I think you should put a lot of money on the election. Like 10% of your net worth. This could be a HUGE windfall for you.
I'll take your word for it, Igloo. I won't be panicking. I think you should put a lot of money on the election. Like 10% of your net worth. This could be a HUGE windfall for you.
Can anyone prove Harris did or didn't work at McD's? Since there were only paper records that were mostly lost years ago, probably not. Did millions of kids of modest means work in fast food and she was likely one of them? Absolutely.
By the same type of deduction, we could say Trump claims he went to UPenn business school, but no records have been produced. So we could claim there is no proof, therefore it did not happen. But common sense says that rich people can send their unqualified kids to Ivy League schools if they provide bags of cash, so Trump likely went there.
The Trump plan is attack / deny anything the other candidate says, especially if it could be seen as positive for them. The entire Trump campaign is a barrage of BS.Facts, proof and common sense are ignored by his disciples.
This is the world we live in. We are long past the time when getting caught with blatant lies would be damaging in any way to Trump. If a photograph with 5 eyewitnesses surfaced of Harris working at McDonalds decades ago it would not matter whatsoever. This is how the firehose of lies works. Russia already went through this in the 90's and early 2000 as Putin arose to power. People used to be critical and have opinions. Now the citizens are just stuck with Putin and state media. And it works. They all keep in line. The lies are intended to distract and soak up time of already depleted real journalists from the criminality. Think about this. Last week Trump said he would use the military to put down the enemy and then later clarified that the enemy was lawmakers like Pelosi and Trump. And today the media is researching McDonalds to see if Trump's lies can be debunked. Do you see how this works yet?
Can anyone prove Harris did or didn't work at McD's? Since there were only paper records that were mostly lost years ago, probably not. Did millions of kids of modest means work in fast food and she was likely one of them? Absolutely.
By the same type of deduction, we could say Trump claims he went to UPenn business school, but no records have been produced. So we could claim there is no proof, therefore it did not happen. But common sense says that rich people can send their unqualified kids to Ivy League schools if they provide bags of cash, so Trump likely went there.
The Trump plan is attack / deny anything the other candidate says, especially if it could be seen as positive for them. The entire Trump campaign is a barrage of BS.Facts, proof and common sense are ignored by his disciples.
This is the world we live in. We are long past the time when getting caught with blatant lies would be damaging in any way to Trump. If a photograph with 5 eyewitnesses surfaced of Harris working at McDonalds decades ago it would not matter whatsoever. This is how the firehose of lies works. Russia already went through this in the 90's and early 2000 as Putin arose to power. People used to be critical and have opinions. Now the citizens are just stuck with Putin and state media. And it works. They all keep in line. The lies are intended to distract and soak up time of already depleted real journalists from the criminality. Think about this. Last week Trump said he would use the military to put down the enemy and then later clarified that the enemy was lawmakers like Pelosi and Trump. And today the media is researching McDonalds to see if Trump's lies can be debunked. Do you see how this works yet?
Yup, 100%. This needs to be repeated over and over. Although you clearly meant to write 'lawmakers like Pelosi and Schumer', because that is what the fascist said.
Dems seethe because Trump is popular and they have to hire half of Hollywood and pay people to vote or attend her events. Face it, the people can't stand her or you.
^^^^^
Will never admit it, but secretly wants to see Trump's cache of Arnold Palmer d!ck photos.
I generally think of the Trumpers desire for his d*** to be figurative (BUT STRONG).
It appears that Trump's desire for Palmer's very well might be literal.
Not SURE that that really sells well to the insecure, homophobic pick-em-up truck driver Trumper, but......HE'S the genius, so who am I to question ?
Do many have this same fantasy of being black and working at McDonalds?
Ive never heard of that one
Can anyone prove Harris did or didn't work at McD's? Since there were only paper records that were mostly lost years ago, probably not. Did millions of kids of modest means work in fast food and she was likely one of them? Absolutely.
By the same type of deduction, we could say Trump claims he went to UPenn business school, but no records have been produced. So we could claim there is no proof, therefore it did not happen. But common sense says that rich people can send their unqualified kids to Ivy League schools if they provide bags of cash, so Trump likely went there.
The Trump plan is attack / deny anything the other candidate says, especially if it could be seen as positive for them. The entire Trump campaign is a barrage of BS.Facts, proof and common sense are ignored by his disciples.
Corrected: "Proof and common sense are ignored by roughly 50% of all voting Americans."
Can anyone prove Harris did or didn't work at McD's? Since there were only paper records that were mostly lost years ago, probably not. Did millions of kids of modest means work in fast food and she was likely one of them? Absolutely.
By the same type of deduction, we could say Trump claims he went to UPenn business school, but no records have been produced. So we could claim there is no proof, therefore it did not happen. But common sense says that rich people can send their unqualified kids to Ivy League schools if they provide bags of cash, so Trump likely went there.
The Trump plan is attack / deny anything the other candidate says, especially if it could be seen as positive for them. The entire Trump campaign is a barrage of BS.Facts, proof and common sense are ignored by his disciples.
This is the world we live in. We are long past the time when getting caught with blatant lies would be damaging in any way to Trump. If a photograph with 5 eyewitnesses surfaced of Harris working at McDonalds decades ago it would not matter whatsoever. This is how the firehose of lies works. Russia already went through this in the 90's and early 2000 as Putin arose to power. People used to be critical and have opinions. Now the citizens are just stuck with Putin and state media. And it works. They all keep in line. The lies are intended to distract and soak up time of already depleted real journalists from the criminality. Think about this. Last week Trump said he would use the military to put down the enemy and then later clarified that the enemy was lawmakers like Pelosi and Trump. And today the media is researching McDonalds to see if Trump's lies can be debunked. Do you see how this works yet?
I'm not a creative type, and I sure as hell don't know how (the hell) the minds of "undecided" voters work, but.....it seems to me that it would be pretty damn easy to make really simple, powerful commercials about Trump EXPLICITLY suggesting to use the military against Pelosi and Schiff and other "enemies" and run them 24/7 in the swing states for the next 2 weeks.
At this very late stage (of the last 10 years), is it horribly naive to think that they might move anyone? You know, real live promises of fascism?
Gotta love it when thread losers mock other thread regulars for not wasting ENOUGH of their lives on this thread/site. I'll go ahead and call that a self-own.
Why would we panic? Trump said he's going to get rid of newname. He's also going to completely f over his base. Actually sounds like a good thing now. 🤔
Will never admit it, but secretly wants to see Trump's cache of Arnold Palmer d!ck photos.
I generally think of the Trumpers desire for his d*** to be figurative (BUT STRONG).
It appears that Trump's desire for Palmer's very well might be literal.
Not SURE that that really sells well to the insecure, homophobic pick-em-up truck driver Trumper, but......HE'S the genius, so who am I to question ?
And by the way, you know who gets VERY worried when he sees Trump making a fool of himself at rally speeches? Vladimir Putin. Vlad thinks, "Wow, how in the WORLD am I going to manipulate THIS guy?! All of my KGB training simply leaves me helpless against that rock solid human being. Damn!!"
(and every other enemy of the U.S. in this world has VERY similar thoughts)
Why would we panic? Trump said he's going to get rid of newname. He's also going to completely f over his base. Actually sounds like a good thing now. 🤔
Maybe I missed it in an earlier discussion, but that's a great point. Dare to criticize Trump for telling Bibi to do whatever he wants in Palestine? OK, but do NOT answer the door when the larger men in black suits getting out of a shiny black SUV arrive at your house !
Why would we panic? Trump said he's going to get rid of newname. He's also going to completely f over his base. Actually sounds like a good thing now. 🤔
Maybe I missed it in an earlier discussion, but that's a great point. Dare to criticize Trump for telling Bibi to do whatever he wants in Palestine? OK, but do NOT answer the door when the larger men in black suits getting out of a shiny black SUV arrive at your house !
If Trump wins:
Bad news: He WILL try to punish his enemies.
Good news: He better hire a LOT of completely loyal sycophants, because he's going to be really, really, really busy doing so.