Doped up dope experts of letsrun on the case.
Doped up dope experts of letsrun on the case.
Good thing this thread is bumped and this whole doping saga about one of the biggest running fraud is discussed again!
Yet the US has the biggest state sponsored doping regime since the fall of the Eastern bloc,hence why no gets caught by USADA,only WADA.
LOL
But, there was new evidence about blood-doping from two scientific studies published in 2018 and 2020 about the 2011 Worlds, showing that a whopping 18% even used in-competition (!) blood doping during that championship.
Yet, in the Sunday Times overview, we learned that only 15% had one (or more) abnormal tests from 2001 - 2012. So much for the IAAF propaganda that
- measurement errors pre-ABP led to innocent athletes having abnormal tests
- dehydration effects pre-ABP led to innocent athletes having abnormal tests
- the thresholds are easy to pass so that innocent athletes can have abnormal tests
- altitude alone can lead to innocent athletes having abnormal tests
Huh. None of that sounds likely since fewer athletes had abnormal tests than used in-competition blood doping.
Paula got lucky that the Lord became President on time to declare her innocent before the beginning of the internal IAAF "investigation".
Steve The Addict^^^^^^^------- wrote:
LOL Paula was definitely on something while running a 215 marathon. Maybe she blood doped and maybe she's convinced herself she's innocent because a lot of the other top athletes were doing it. The mind is a powerful thing especially for a narcissist or a psycho/sociopath who could beat a lie detector because they tell so many lies that they start to believe their own and have no shame or moral compass.
Bottom line is that she was caught in so many lies that she has zero credibility at this point. Remember when she said she never threatened to sue Ross Tucker but then admitted it later? When you lie so much it's hard to keep track.
We can only hope that the brit mandatory state sponsored doping program will be demolished. The doping cheater bobblehead needs to go to prison - she is a thief and predicate liar as well as being the most outrageously blatant cheater in the history of all sports.
dopers out !!!
paula is the marathons answer to flo jo,and marita koch,bless her.Still,she never won an olympic gold,thankfully.
Birkoboy wrote:
Yet the US has the biggest state sponsored doping regime since the fall of the Eastern bloc,hence why no gets caught by USADA,only WADA.
Sorry, but this is just ignorant. Do you know what "state sponsored" means? Which government agencies do you think are involved in the US doping regime? Both USADA and USATF are private, as are Nike, New Balance, BTC and all the rest.
There may be a doping regime in the US, but it's private, not public.
This is the issue with Radcliffe. New data and testing refutes her accepted explanations from the past .
Lab Tech Brian wrote:
This is the issue with Radcliffe. New data and testing refutes her accepted explanations from the past .
Except that it doesn’t.
Your alleged “issue with Radcliffe” is a non-issue:
- there is no new data and testing that refutes the explanations of her allegedly “suspicious” off-scores
- we never needed to ask Paula to explain anything, so there is nothing she can say or could have said, that will change, or would have changed, history
Although the full body of evidence is available, we only ever needed to consult the anti-doping research of the two “experts” — Ashenden and Parissotto — to learn why the allegedly damning evidence was never damning at all. Peer reviewed research from Ashenden and Parisotto should tell everyone, and has told anti-doping ADAs and ADOs, why they should reject blood samples taken within 2 hours after a race, and the time course effects of high altitude on off-scores.
DHT123 wrote:
Wow. More info at last. Interesting that she's chosen to give the interview to the Mail and not David Walsh. Also that it's been released in synch with the IAAF (weird that they're going so far out of their way to defend her as an individual)
Some thoughts:
- A lot of the detail on the surface seems to exonerate her - why on earth did she decide not to release this earlier? In particular the Off-scores from the tests that were taken just before the races in 2003 & 2005. Is going to be interesting to hear what the WADA IC have to say here, plus Ashenden/Parisotto. I would love to see what someone like Ross Tucker would have to say too
- totally disingenuous to say that she hadn't used altitude training as a reason for her high scores before, it was all over her official statement and Sky news interview and the IAAF statement
- what has happened to the illness and antibiotics before the 2003 race? In her autobiography she was 'drained of the strength I needed'. No mention now. Before, this was the reason why the Hb was so low pre-race, but she seems to realize that it doesn't add up - ie ill, low red blood count, dehydrated and still smash a world class field. So now the pre-race off-score is wrong? Is that because the journey from an off-score of 82 to 115 is implausible?
- the number of blood tests she was being subjected to suggests to me that the authorities had their suspicions
- 2012 score is interesting. The only one 'out of competition' when she thought she wouldn't get tested. This is now due to altitude. She must have blood tests following altitude training before? How do these compare? To quote from her biography.... 'My hematocrit and volume of red blood cells doesn't really change that much at altitude. My usual haematocrit is 39-42 no matter how long I spend at altitude and red blood count cell count never goes above 4,250,000'. Hb this time of 16.2......
She was monitoring her levels closely all of the time to make sure she was in the clear. Doped to and injected to the roof. I think this is all posturing before something new drops and her record is fully challenged and removed.
Lead Foil Hat XXVII wrote:
She was monitoring her levels closely all of the time to make sure she was in the clear. Doped to and injected to the roof. I think this is all posturing before something new drops and her record is fully challenged and removed.
This makes absolutely no sense.
There would be no need to monitor blood values to game the system until the ABP after 2009, long after her marathon world records in 2002 and 2003, and long after the peak in her career.
Furthermore, the subject analysis brought to us by the Sunday Mail suggests against any notion that blood doping helped win championship and Olympic medals.