Unofficial 2019 D3 Track Thread

After watching the prelim and the final, it seems to me that Mueller prefers to front run and is inexperienced or has a low tolerance for physical races. The push on Ryan in the final was definitely excessive just to stay upright but I don't think it was malicious. I think the subsequent move was just him being fed up with the slow/physical race and wanting to take the race into his own hands.

I agree that it didn't affect Ryan too much, or at least he likely wouldn't have placed any higher than he did. The funniest part was Mueller had shoved the same guy in almost the same spot the day before in the prelim. I couldn't believe it when it happened again in the final.

In watching the replay, I felt that most of the contact up until the "push" was initiated by McAneny- almost like he kept trying to cut people off or bump them to prevent passing. The video in this thread doesn't show the "push" very well- I was watching live and thought it looked pretty bad (like I thought a DQ was going to possibly happen) since it was a side view. It probably was a bit excessive, but there was a significant stumble happening. However, after watching these other incidents along the way, I can sympathize with his frustration and understand why he simply bolted to the front.

If you watch the video until the racers are going into the infield after the race, you can notice that Mueller and McAneny do shake hands. I do like that they could both do that after a testy race.

TwoinMN wrote:

In watching the replay, I felt that most of the contact up until the "push" was initiated by McAneny- almost like he kept trying to cut people off or bump them to prevent passing. The video in this thread doesn't show the "push" very well- I was watching live and thought it looked pretty bad (like I thought a DQ was going to possibly happen) since it was a side view. It probably was a bit excessive, but there was a significant stumble happening. However, after watching these other incidents along the way, I can sympathize with his frustration and understand why he simply bolted to the front.

If you watch the video until the racers are going into the infield after the race, you can notice that Mueller and McAneny do shake hands. I do like that they could both do that after a testy race.

I'm not sure. Mueller hits McAneny with a tough elbow a lap before the shove. Then you can see Mueller spends the entire next lap looking for a way off the rail. Then it's after the mile mark that he shoves Ryan to make room to get to the outside. Then he surges to the front. Watching it in person or on the NCAA feed, it really doesn't look like there was a stumble or that he was just trying to steady himself. He was frustrated, wanted off the rail, and shoved Ryan. It's even more clear because he surges to the front right afterward. It was all part of one movement- shove then surge. If you stumble, you at least take a moment to gather yourself before you make a big move to the front. Plus, it's not as if Ryan were right in front of him. He was out in lane 2, right where Mueller wanted to go.

My suspicion is that he wanted to get out in front to push the pace, and that after they came through the mile at a slowish pace he decided it was urgent, and went for the shove.

This type of thing happens, but there needs to be a DQ. Beef isn't even really with Mueller, because like people said, Ryan didn't fall and finished well. The officials need to actually do stuff out there, otherwise there's no point in even having them. Small ball elbowing is one thing, but a visibly deliberate shove just can't be allowed. Mueller I'm sure is a good guy that had a bad moment. It just means that you gotta throw up the yellow flag.

Honestly, I think Mueller is to blame here, mainly because he is from Carleton. It must be part of their culture or something. But if you remember back to Donson Cook-Gallardo he would race the same way at every national meet, like an idiot. It's very classless and degrading to the sport. No respect for the sport or the other competitors displayed by both Mueller and DCG. They both run out of control and are very frustrating to watch and compete against. I don't know what they are teaching them about racing at Carleton but it is extremely frustrating to watch.

As an unbiased observer, I watched the video and it was not nearly as bad as people here made it out to be. It just looked like guys jockeying for position in a tight race and none of the rubbing or the alleged shove affected the outcome of the race. Not DQ worthy IMO.

Rubbing is racing.

Early outdoor predictions??

Floyd runs 1:51 and 3:49 early

Matteucci and Ryan both with 3:50's

Who is Floyd? And why is he being mention in the thread. This is reserved for contenders only. Ian LaMere is the only contender so we only talk about Ian LaMere.

Thanks for checking in Ian, it’s been a while

LaMere here wrote:

Who is Floyd? And why is he being mention in the thread. This is reserved for contenders only. Ian LaMere is the only contender so we only talk about Ian LaMere.

Floyd Gripple. He 2:10 as a freshman at Falcon and then transferred over to Belmont. He's been putting in a lot of work in the off-season, so I expect him to make a big jump in outdoors.

DIII Recruit wrote:

LaMere here wrote:

Who is Floyd? And why is he being mention in the thread. This is reserved for contenders only. Ian LaMere is the only contender so we only talk about Ian LaMere.

Floyd Gripple. He 2:10 as a freshman at Falcon and then transferred over to Belmont. He's been putting in a lot of work in the off-season, so I expect him to make a big jump in outdoors.

He *ran 2:10 as a freshman, sorry.

DIII Recruit wrote:

LaMere here wrote:

Who is Floyd? And why is he being mention in the thread. This is reserved for contenders only. Ian LaMere is the only contender so we only talk about Ian LaMere.

Floyd Gripple. He 2:10 as a freshman at Falcon and then transferred over to Belmont. He's been putting in a lot of work in the off-season, so I expect him to make a big jump in outdoors.

Thanks for checking in, Floyd.

Pretty sure he was talking about the kid from Pomona at the top of the 1500 & 800 on tfrrs

Try again wrote:

Pretty sure he was talking about the kid from Pomona at the top of the 1500 & 800 on tfrrs

Pretty sure you're gonna have a spider thrown at your lip if you don't speak with more respect young man.

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!

Does anyone have an entries list for the WashU 10k tonight? Also I heard Patel is running Payton Jordan, is that true? Predictions?

oh yikes. Darin Lau in the 10k.

who is Zaqch 2 Hird? Could it be J.B. under a moniker?

DIIIAlum wrote:

http://www.washubears.com/sports/track/2018-19/files/2019_Finalized_Friday_program_3.pdf

Zach Lee in the 10k at wash u?!?