Killian Jornet's Everest summit might not have happened

To summarize this wrote:

So, in summary, there is currently no evidence that he summited Everest? But we believe he did because he says so. Twice. That’s interesting.

Yes. I can see no proof at all. That summit photo is a joke. Could have been taken in his garden!

Just because someone is a great runner doesn't mean he can't cheat.

Strava is easily tampered with.

Could be holding everything back for some huge reveal, like a film or something?

Trying to stir up people saying he didn't do it, for publicity??

Bleep bloop wrote:

The final word? wrote:

Is this the final word on this then? There is no actual evidence of him on the summit either time? And nobody cares?

I sure won’t ever buy a Suunto watch.

Stick with your Casio then, you cheap old geezer.

Hahahahaha! Classic!

Made me laugh wrote:

Bleep bloop wrote:

I sure won’t ever buy a Suunto watch.

Stick with your Casio then, you cheap old geezer.

Hahahahaha! Classic![/quote]

I've been using a casio since 1979. Just ordered me an ambit peak so I can do some serious elevating and gpsing!!

Ho Hum wrote:

Dude, can you just stick to using one name? It's a pain in the ass to read the thread when a lunatic posts with 20 different handles on every page.

Sorry chief, but maybe someone is posting with 20 different handles per page, but it’s not me. I’m a Jornet fan and I’m ok with blaming his watch but to me that means the watch is crap and you shouldn’t buy it. I still don’t know how that makes someone cheap? I just agreed that if the watch is at fault you shouldn’t buy it. Not sure why that would be too controversial or make me sound like a lunatic. If it’s relevant I owned a Suunto once and liked it, but lost it on a camping trip, long story, it’s at the bottom of a lake now. I have a Garmin now that I probably like better. I’ve never even heard of Casio, but I’m 22 so not sure if that’s an original GPS from way back or something?

What’s your name wrote:

I’ve never even heard of Casio, but I’m 22 so not sure if that’s an original GPS from way back or something?

casio was the first wristwatch I bought to time myself on runs in 1980. Before that I carried a digital stopwatch. If you wanted your global position, you had to carry a map with you!!

Midnight Climber wrote:

For a running analogy, Bekele just made a 25k record attempt in India. He ran well, winning the race, but missed the WR by over two minutes. If Bekele announced next Sunday morning that he just ran the same course at night (during a windstorm) and just happened to break the WR by a small margin, would you believe him? (His proof is a photo of him smiling in the dark and Canova's statement that he saw Bekele around the 5k mark.

Not quite. A better analogy would be someone making two private segments on Strava that no one had ever tried to go fast on before. Basically it would be an uncompetitive segment with a random start point with a leaderboard with one runner attempt each for each of his two goes, instead of a competitive segment with hundreds of runners in a leaderboard. It was never something that could be easily compared to other speed climbs of the mountain, so it would be more like Bekele going for the 22.22K record that has no official WR, and no one else has a time for.

Times have changed.... wrote:

What’s your name wrote:

I’ve never even heard of Casio, but I’m 22 so not sure if that’s an original GPS from way back or something?

casio was the first wristwatch I bought to time myself on runs in 1980. Before that I carried a digital stopwatch. If you wanted your global position, you had to carry a map with you!!

I loved the Casio 30 lap memory watches that I had in the late '80s and early '90s. I had two, and they functioned a lot better than the Timex Ironmans that I had later when I couldn't find the Casios anymore.

I have a Casio wristwatch that's about 35 years old. It was given to me as a kid as a birthday present. The band is a bit worse for the wear, but the watch, which has never had its battery changed, and along the way spent 10 years in a box in someone's attic, still works fine, and I still use it sometimes on runs.

back woods wrote:

I have a Casio wristwatch that's about 35 years old... but the watch, which has never had its battery changed,

Holy smokes 35 year battery life in a Casio wrist watch from the 1980s!! - you need to tell Elon Musk about this technology asap so he he can improve his battery factory and solve the world's electric power problems!!!

Musk's lithium ions wrote:

back woods wrote:

I have a Casio wristwatch that's about 35 years old... but the watch, which has never had its battery changed,

Holy smokes 35 year battery life in a Casio wrist watch from the 1980s!! - you need to tell Elon Musk about this technology asap so he he can improve his battery factory and solve the world's electric power problems!!!

So if I understand correctly we still don't know if Killian summited (once, twice, or at all), but we do know Casio watch batteries are awesome. Great work LR!

High Plains Drifter wrote:

So if I understand correctly we still don't know if Killian summited (once, twice, or at all), but we do know Casio watch batteries are awesome. Great work LR!

We also know that a random selfie with a smiling grimace and a black background can prove almost anything to the right person and anyone employing critical thinking must be a hater or a moon landing conspiracy theorist.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

High Plains Drifter wrote:

So if I understand correctly we still don't know if Killian summited (once, twice, or at all), but we do know Casio watch batteries are awesome. Great work LR!

We also know that a random selfie with a smiling grimace and a black background can prove almost anything to the right person and anyone employing critical thinking must be a hater or a moon landing conspiracy theorist.

Grassy knoll.

Lee Harvey wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

We also know that a random selfie with a smiling grimace and a black background can prove almost anything to the right person and anyone employing critical thinking must be a hater or a moon landing conspiracy theorist.

Grassy knoll.

To summarize, there is no evidence he summitted the grassy knoll.

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mako wrote:

A happy but strained smile is a proof? If you took a photo at 8600m the smile wouldn't be strained enough? You can read it was 8848 from his smile?

So, in summary, there is currently no evidence that he summited Everest? But we believe he did because he says so. Twice. That’s interesting.

Why all the doubting? There is no question that he climbed Everest, just like I earned a legit BQ. Still in the game, baby!

Kilian Rossi. Has a nice ring to it.

Mike from Abington wrote:

To summarize this wrote:

So, in summary, there is currently no evidence that he summited Everest? But we believe he did because he says so. Twice. That’s interesting.

Why all the doubting? There is no question that he climbed Everest, just like I earned a legit BQ. Still in the game, baby!

Maybe this can explain things:

Did Jornet get a summit certificate from the Nepal Department of Tourism?

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Did Jornet get a summit certificate from the Nepal Department of Tourism?

He climbed the North route, which is Tibet. Did he even travel through Nepal?

Dr Drew wrote:

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Did Jornet get a summit certificate from the Nepal Department of Tourism?

He climbed the North route, which is Tibet. Did he even travel through Nepal?

Not sure. I was just reading the Everest article in the NYT yesterday (

) and one of the climbers claimed to have reached the summit but had no evidence and was not awarded a certificate by the Nepa; Department of Tourism. They seem to keep a year book of everyone who reaches the summit but isn't updated for the 2017 season: