Ozzie wrote:
You guys ever seen the VH1 Behind the Music about Death Row Records? This is kinda like that. Maybe Phil and Suge have something more in common than a last name.
Uncle Phil ain't who you'all are projecting him to be.
He's geriatric now, a nice guy, and insulated from all this.
Geriatric, announced retirement this year.
Catch a clue.
old man vinter wrote:
I've always liked Vin. Can someone let me know if I should give up on that? Is he as scummy as the rest?
He's still gracious and funny. He's got a New Yorkers sense of humor and tolerance, nothing much ruffles him. Classy guy.
He's an optimist, an idea guy, a visionary, and he's making a fortune out of the sport he loves.
A few of his Stanford athletes think he gave them too hard a workload, that's about it. By Oregon, his training philosophy had reduced the work load...
According to what I heard at USA's...
anonymouscat123 wrote:
Many of you sound like babies. Grow some almonds.. maybe running too much has lowered your testosterone levels so you are whining like a bunch of Estrogen-filled school girls "I'm gonna throw out my Nike stuff" blah blah blah.
Some coach did something douchebag'ish and pissed off a powerful person who threatened him with childish words. This isn't Nike's fault. This man should simply state a public apology or his ass should be sued.
If this Brooks coach had balls or if Brooks had balls OR USATF had balls, he'd get the Brooks folks to write him and his pals a legal letter requesting a public apology. Now I know why Symmonds has been crying about wearing Nike gear.
Life goes on. Just child's play. Wear your lousy Brooks gear. Wear your Nike stuff. Whatever makes you happy. But don't cry.
Kinda agree. Brooks may owe an apology too.
Symmonds has a douche angry side too. Great guy, great runner, but what do people expect out of Competitive Male Athletes.
Castrati? Church Choir boys?
I don't think so.
Anyone who thinks that was an actual "death threat" is an idiot.
Playground talk in many cities.neighborhood.
Athletes will benefit from this, Brooks is going to lose out on many a bidding war for an athlete now for some time. They can think that's fun, but compare each co's last yearly report.
Nike is a cultural force like no other, so common and so good a line of products that they are on 8 out of ten feet I see.
"We Won't Stop," ought to be their new theme.
llort_vbo wrote:
most of you guys including malmo are a bunch of pu$$ies
"I'm gonna kill you" can be interpreted a number of ways and that by itself does not rise to terroristic threat. In most cases, it would be interpreted idiomatically unless accompanied by a direct threat, i.e. "I'm going to kill you with a knife" or "I will shoot you with a gun." So while this might be harassment, it is not likely to result in serious charges. Caprioti could easily say he meant that "I am going to kill you" in business since these guys are competitors in some sense.
It speaks to a lack of judgement or class, but its not a reason to fry the guy. You NOP haters are just looking for a reason to bring the guy down like it will lead to systemic change - not a chance. There's someone waiting to step into this guys shoes whose just as bad or worse..
And we have a winner. For idiotic post of the day.
When did anyone say they were out to fry the guy. Danny Mackey himself didn't press charges. But he filed a police report a) so there would be a record of it. The action might now be punished and now there is more of a detterent to not do anything to him as the police would obvioulsy have leads.
Yes "I'm gonna kill you" could just be talk but when it's accompanied by phsyical gestures it's going to make you nervous.
coach d. wrote:
True, even longer, I have known him since his days at Chicago Heights Bloom High School in 1973-74. He would not be anything without Steve Miller.
EMAW wrote:Sounds like Cap hasn't changed much in the last 20-25 years.
Have know idea what this means, Elucidate, Please.
Other wise, want to fly like an eagle, and I really like her peaches and want to shake her tree...
llort_vbo wrote:
most of you guys including malmo are a bunch of pu$$ies
"I'm gonna kill you" can be interpreted a number of ways and that by itself does not rise to terroristic threat. In most cases, it would be interpreted idiomatically unless accompanied by a direct threat, i.e. "I'm going to kill you with a knife" or "I will shoot you with a gun." So while this might be harassment, it is not likely to result in serious charges. Caprioti could easily say he meant that "I am going to kill you" in business since these guys are competitors in some sense.
It speaks to a lack of judgement or class, but its not a reason to fry the guy. You NOP haters are just looking for a reason to bring the guy down like it will lead to systemic change - not a chance. There's someone waiting to step into this guys shoes whose just as bad or worse.
As misguided as he can be, our best chance to get change is to support Symmonds.
This is how I saw it. I once had a new hire come into our sales staff/bullpen/ he was an ugly creepy m-fo, looked like the creeper lovers lane murderer rapist with the coke bottle thick glasses at at the end of a teen slasher movie. First day of his work, he walks up to me (having heard I was #1in sales and every other performance metric) and leans into me nose to nose, Marine drill sarge like and says to me, "I'm going to f*cking kill you."
"Welcome to the team." Did you find the coffee and the donuts yet?!" Said I.
Nonetheless I considered it odd / noteworthy enough to mention to my direct reports and the regional manager who happened to be visiting our office that day, both of whom...
...Did freaking squat.
So, so much for the "you'd be instantly fired at my job crew."
I immediately got even more focused and competitive and out sold this creepass
to the point of humiliation. By the time of our co's yearly sales awards banquet, I won absolutely every award, except for the one I demanded my manager give to a helpful buddy whom always had my back and I his. And, well so I wouldn't look like a hog. Sweeping everything is embarrassing. But I digress.
So I take these "my churchlike workplace would never tolerate a heated battle of words thing / instantly walked from the building" takes with a block of the big bad adult world of business's proverbial salt. It's not surprising how many work places, company cultures allow so much playground asphalt basketball court eral behavior to go on unchecked. Which can really suck, but sometimes you deal with it cos the money is Fantastic.
On the other hand, the big bad adult world of business can be mondo rear entry raping and indeed it can be bad to the point of completely clusterbleeped and effed to the max. I had an over $1m commision ripped off, with absolutely no recourse. Cases of managers switching digits and commissions and claiming they were the key contact or factor in the close, happen often enough. Every veteran alpha sales dog has his or her war stories.
You move forward.
Live through that, churchboys.
And they are not Almonds, they're brass tennis balls. A 1m hit hurts, but champions move forward, and kill the competition.
Remember that golf ad? "Don't just hit the ball -- kill it."
"You're dead." Or, "I'm going to murder you. (with specifics). Would be something to take seriously.
Kudos to McKaye for staying calm in the face of a hot head. That's real balls and superior gamesmanship.
Well played on his part.
First round: McKaye
longjack wrote:
malmo wrote:Underlined above.
a good argument, both sides make valid points.
point here.
this is corporate culture. i went into running because i could get away from goofy characters in other sports and do my own thing. this case is good for non-world wise letsrun fans to learn what people will do, what they do, in corporations, which is to be a member of a clique, back stab, hire inferiors under you to protect your position,
This is what you have when there is lack of transparency, accountability, talent, etc. Actually, at Nike, Al-Sal does have talent,.. which is an exception to the rule.
.
The word is Salazar studies and researches his ass off. (He ought to do some squats though, cos his a skinny bugger, with no ass.). (I know creeppy, but he's all back from his back down to his quads.)
Cap's high school coach [Bloom HS], college coach [Cal Poly] and predecessor at Kansas State and Nike:
http://www.usatf.org/About/Committees/Board-of-Directors.aspx
A board member since 2009, Steve Miller is CEO of Agassi Graf Holdings, the Andre Agassi Foundation for Education, and BILT by Agassi and Reyes. He previously served as the Executive Chairman of the Board for Power Plate International, President and CEO of the Professional Bowlers Association, Director of Global Sports Marketing for Nike, adjunct professor at the University of Oregon Warsaw School of Sports Marketing, and Director of Athletics for Kansas State University. He has more than two decades' experience as a high school and collegiate track and cross country coach, is a five-time NCAA Coach of the Year and is a member four halls of fame, including the U.S. Track & Field and Cross Country Coaches Association Hall of Fame.
dkny64 wrote:
So Why wrote:So why ISN'T Llewwlyn Starks in jail?
This story from 2007 -
http://archive.indystar.com/article/20070622/COLUMNISTS01/706220497/Gatlin-story-hard-believe- gives a good summary [although it conflicts somewhat with other accounts I've read.]
If something like this happened today, the video would be everywhere, but I don't believe the security video of the incident has ever been made public. [If I'm wrong about that, hope someone will post a link.]
Shitey, mate, all those looky-loos and nary a camera phone in sight, or were they all too fascinated, crowd hypnosis????
Cool story, bro.
The assertion that this happens in all big business, money making, tough decision having scenarios/companies is patently false. There are those of us with the stones to be a man about stuff like this. Nike has not those types.
Deadspin article on it with the Letsrun mention.
http://fittish.deadspin.com/nike-exec-i-m-gonna-fu
ckin-kill-you-1724050357
pugilist wrote:
Force the issue wrote:Danny handled it wrong. Should of laughed in Caps face, let him throw a punch. Then you have them by the balls.
That's exactly what I would have done if that coward came at me like that.
Just smirk, laugh a bit, whatever it takes suck him into throwing a little pu##y punch. Doesn't take much with a guy like CrappyPotty Then you can either sh!tckick him on the spot in "self-defense" or charge the weakling.[/quote]
Big talk.
Here are the possible consequences.
1. one friend of mine did that, got knocked on his has, he head flew back, hit the floor, he got a BTI (brain trauma injury) and not has a plastic plate in his cranium for life.
2. another guy I knew did that, got his front teeth knocked out, lip split and a scar for life down middle of his lip. His job: Male model, making $300k a year, had to have a false tooth put in, and extra make up applied to his lip before every shoot.
3. husband of a friend, punched out, head hit pavement, BTI, lost the ability to speak or hear again and now lives in an assisted living facility. He was an architect and a class guy. Mugged.
So you go ahead, tough smart guy, and risk that.
"Discretion is the Better Part of Valor," as my local police office once taught us on college.
SAGE advice.
Never risk getting injured at work, or into physically violent situation in public or work.
Boxing, or MMA, etc., is choice and often with safety gear.
But you go ahead and get cold cocked.
pugilist wrote:
Force the issue wrote:Danny handled it wrong. Should of laughed in Caps face, let him throw a punch. Then you have them by the balls.
That's exactly what I would have done if that coward came at me like that.
Just smirk, laugh a bit, whatever it takes suck him into throwing a little pu##y punch. Doesn't take much with a guy like CrappyPotty Then you can either sh!tckick him on the spot in "self-defense" or charge the weakling.[/quote]
Big talk.
Here are the possible consequences.
1. one friend of mine did that, got knocked on his has, he head flew back, hit the floor, he got a BTI (brain trauma injury) and not has a plastic plate in his cranium for life.
2. another guy I knew did that, got his front teeth knocked out, lip split and a scar for life down middle of his lip. His job: Male model, making $300k a year, had to have a false tooth put in, and extra make up applied to his lip before every shoot.
3. husband of a friend, punched out, head hit pavement, BTI, lost the ability to speak or hear again and now lives in an assisted living facility. He was an architect and a class guy. Mugged.
So you go ahead, tough smart guy, and risk that.
"Discretion is the Better Part of Valor," as my local police office once taught us on college.
SAGE advice.
Never risk getting injured at work, or into physically violent situation in public or work.
Boxing, or MMA, etc., is choice and often with safety gear.
But you go ahead and get cold cocked.
"Discretion is the Better Part of Valor," as my local police office once taught us on college.
(QUOTE)
So is that why there are so many killing cops?
^^ This.I once went after a guy (didn't need to) and got cold-cocked. Concussion and possible bleeding in the brain. Could have been worse. Think twice before doing anything stupid.
yeahhh right... wrote:
pugilist wrote:That's exactly what I would have done if that coward came at me like that.
Just smirk, laugh a bit, whatever it takes suck him into throwing a little pu##y punch. Doesn't take much with a guy like CrappyPotty Then you can either sh!tckick him on the spot in "self-defense" or charge the weakling.
Big talk.
Here are the possible consequences.
1. one friend of mine did that, got knocked on his has, he head flew back, hit the floor, he got a BTI (brain trauma injury) and not has a plastic plate in his cranium for life.
2. another guy I knew did that, got his front teeth knocked out, lip split and a scar for life down middle of his lip. His job: Male model, making $300k a year, had to have a false tooth put in, and extra make up applied to his lip before every shoot.
3. husband of a friend, punched out, head hit pavement, BTI, lost the ability to speak or hear again and now lives in an assisted living facility. He was an architect and a class guy. Mugged.
So you go ahead, tough smart guy, and risk that.
"Discretion is the Better Part of Valor," as my local police office once taught us on college.
SAGE advice.
Never risk getting injured at work, or into physically violent situation in public or work.
Boxing, or MMA, etc., is choice and often with safety gear.
But you go ahead and get cold cocked.[/quote]
llort_vbo wrote:
txRUNNERgirl wrote:Same, but I guess that's why I don't make the big bucks. I don't need that level of stress or anger in my life.
And that's understandable - it seems like most here would agree with that. It's also why most people here aren't in the rooms where decisions are made. They're here b!tching
Speak for yourself.
I have had some unpleasant customers like Cap. Over time, I learned to avoid personalities like Cap. They are never worth whatever deal you make with them because they never left high school and there's SO MUCH time wasted dealing with a teenager.
runDirtyrun wrote:
Speak for yourself.
I have had some unpleasant customers like Cap. Over time, I learned to avoid personalities like Cap. They are never worth whatever deal you make with them because they never left high school and there's SO MUCH time wasted dealing with a teenager.
How you act has nothing to do with being a teenager or being in high school. An unpleasant person is unpleasant because they are an unpleasant person.
Totally Concur in Agreement wrote:
llort_vbo wrote:most of you guys including malmo are a bunch of pu$$ies
"I'm gonna kill you" can be interpreted a number of ways and that by itself does not rise to terroristic threat. In most cases, it would be interpreted idiomatically unless accompanied by a direct threat, i.e. "I'm going to kill you with a knife" or "I will shoot you with a gun." So while this might be harassment, it is not likely to result in serious charges. Caprioti could easily say he meant that "I am going to kill you" in business since these guys are competitors in some sense.
It speaks to a lack of judgement or class, but its not a reason to fry the guy. You NOP haters are just looking for a reason to bring the guy down like it will lead to systemic change - not a chance. There's someone waiting to step into this guys shoes whose just as bad or worse.
As misguided as he can be, our best chance to get change is to support Symmonds.
This is how I saw it. I once had a new hire come into our sales staff/bullpen/ he was an ugly creepy m-fo, looked like the creeper lovers lane murderer rapist with the coke bottle thick glasses at at the end of a teen slasher movie. First day of his work, he walks up to me (having heard I was #1in sales and every other performance metric) and leans into me nose to nose, Marine drill sarge like and says to me, "I'm going to f*cking kill you."
"Welcome to the team." Did you find the coffee and the donuts yet?!" Said I.
Nonetheless I considered it odd / noteworthy enough to mention to my direct reports and the regional manager who happened to be visiting our office that day, both of whom...
...Did freaking squat.
So, so much for the "you'd be instantly fired at my job crew."
I immediately got even more focused and competitive and out sold this creepass
to the point of humiliation. By the time of our co's yearly sales awards banquet, I won absolutely every award, except for the one I demanded my manager give to a helpful buddy whom always had my back and I his. And, well so I wouldn't look like a hog. Sweeping everything is embarrassing. But I digress.
So I take these "my churchlike workplace would never tolerate a heated battle of words thing / instantly walked from the building" takes with a block of the big bad adult world of business's proverbial salt. It's not surprising how many work places, company cultures allow so much playground asphalt basketball court eral behavior to go on unchecked. Which can really suck, but sometimes you deal with it cos the money is Fantastic.
On the other hand, the big bad adult world of business can be mondo rear entry raping and indeed it can be bad to the point of completely clusterbleeped and effed to the max. I had an over $1m commision ripped off, with absolutely no recourse. Cases of managers switching digits and commissions and claiming they were the key contact or factor in the close, happen often enough. Every veteran alpha sales dog has his or her war stories.
You move forward.
Live through that, churchboys.
And they are not Almonds, they're brass tennis balls. A 1m hit hurts, but champions move forward, and kill the competition.
Remember that golf ad? "Don't just hit the ball -- kill it."
"You're dead." Or, "I'm going to murder you. (with specifics). Would be something to take seriously.
Kudos to McKaye for staying calm in the face of a hot head. That's real balls and superior gamesmanship.
Well played on his part.
First round: McKaye
Who let A Duck back in the door?
Corr Blimey m wrote:
dkny64 wrote:This story from 2007 -
http://archive.indystar.com/article/20070622/COLUMNISTS01/706220497/Gatlin-story-hard-believe- gives a good summary [although it conflicts somewhat with other accounts I've read.]
If something like this happened today, the video would be everywhere, but I don't believe the security video of the incident has ever been made public. [If I'm wrong about that, hope someone will post a link.]
Shitey, mate, all those looky-loos and nary a camera phone in sight, or were they all too fascinated, crowd hypnosis????
I was referring to the 2006 incident in which Llewelyn Starks beat the cr*p out of Chris Whetstine. Their was security camera footage, but as far as I know, that footage has never been made public.
a rea eader wrote:
Yes "I'm gonna kill you" could just be talk but when it's accompanied by phsyical gestures it's going to make you nervous.
only if you are the biggest wimp in the world.
"ooh an old man threatened me". I'm surprised he jump into Symmonds arms for protection.