You people make me sick!
You people make me sick!
Why? How about the video just a few posts up from this... if anything, watch the last 3 minutes.
Be honest with yourself, and check it out.
explanation granted wrote:
A very good point has been made - repeatedly - by defenders of the conventionally accepted account of 9/11.
The point is this: the size, scale and audacity of the event were such that someone involved would have to have come forward by now, as a whistle-blower.
This point, however, rests upon the assumption that those involved considered the 9/11 attacks to be morally wrong.
However, it is reasonable to think that those who did it, did it in Our Best Interest, which is to say, for the good of the country. People in currently in power really do think this way.
Not to mention the fact that 9/11 made a few people very rich (defense contractors, oil companies) and had the effect of consolidating power in the Cheney/Bush administration.
Still, I am optimistic and patriotic, and I think that a government of/by/for the people will ultimately win out.
It is quite frightening how so many Americans like you believe that hundreds of people working for the government could believe that killing nearly 3,000 innocent American citizens could be morally justified for some greater purpose (whatever purpose that would be, which you don't seem to know). Not a single one would have a second thought about this, thus sealing the conspiracy forever.
You clearly have never worked in government and seen how independently minded and ethical most government workers are. I'm not talking about politicians like Dick Cheney and some of his political hacks like Douglas Feith. I'm talking rank and file military officers and civil servants who tend to be more apolitical and direct their loyalties to the Constitution and the law, not the party in power.
Here is a sentence from a 2000 document called "Rebuilding America's Defenses," published by the Project for the New American Century:
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor."
War is, after all, great for the economy.
It really is amazing how much some people live in denial. I mean, it's right there, in front of your face...Did those Firefighters flinch for no reason? Was that not a bomb? Are those Firefighters completely making up the thermite/molten lava story?
best911videoever wrote:
Everything you need to know about 911 in 5 minutes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFf4eClROkbrilliant!
best911videoever wrote:
Everything you need to know about 911 in 5 minutes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFf4eClROkbrilliant!
You're not after the truth...you're after something to talk about at dinner parties. I wonder how the families of those that were on the plane that lost their lives at the pentagon feel about your ridiculous theories.
http://pentagonmemorial.org/explore/biographies?last_name=&alphabet_open=1&birth_year_f_open=0&birth_year=&category=2Do us all a favor and go back to your silly ancient aliens and not landing on the moon conspiracies.
Fact: The 9/11 Truth movement was started by families of victims.
To find out the truth about why these people died is the highest respect we can pay them.
......... wrote:
Do us all a favor and go back to your silly ancient aliens and not landing on the moon conspiracies.
Why do some of you idiots group people who question the events of 2001 with those who don't believe in the moon landing?
It's possible to doubt one and believe in the other, you know?
fhjkuy wrote:
......... wrote:Do us all a favor and go back to your silly ancient aliens and not landing on the moon conspiracies.
Why do some of you idiots group people who question the events of 2001 with those who don't believe in the moon landing?
It's possible to doubt one and believe in the other, you know?
because, troofer, those two conspiracy theories have exactly the same amount of evidence behind them: 0
yet they required the complicity and absolute secrecy of thousands.
*(*(&^& I am sick of troofers. Sick sick sick.
abandon hope wrote:
because, troofer, those two conspiracy theories have exactly the same amount of evidence behind them: 0
yet they required the complicity and absolute secrecy of thousands.
*(*(&^& I am sick of troofers. Sick sick sick.
I am sick of your stupidity, idiot.
You are a weakling.
fhjkuy wrote:
abandon hope wrote:because, troofer, those two conspiracy theories have exactly the same amount of evidence behind them: 0
yet they required the complicity and absolute secrecy of thousands.
*(*(&^& I am sick of troofers. Sick sick sick.
I am sick of your stupidity, idiot.
You are a weakling.
troofer,
I am neither stupid nor weak.
troofers, on the the other hand, are emotional paranoids, sure to death that evidence and science mean nothing, and the 'feel that things aren't right' means everything.
You're freaking medievalists, is what you are. Sure that ghosts and goblins are controlling your world. Snap the f out of it.
fhjkuy,
Do you know what "psychological projection" is?
In fairness, it is extremely difficult to have one's worldview challenged in such a jarring way. The first reactions are always anger and denial.
As for me, for twelve years, I saw no reason to doubt the conventionally accepted story -- and I thought that those who did were 'conspiracy theorist' crackpots, and downright un-American.
The truth will set you free. But first it will piss you off.
abandon hope wrote:
you know, in the end, I prefer tea party fanatics wearing tri cornered hats and still asking for obama's birth certificate to 9/11 troofers.
You people are so cynical, so willing to believe anything, so blind to science, so smug, so plain dumb, that it just gets me madder than just about anything. Clearly nothing will ever persuade you that what happened happened. Not confessions, not science, not the lack of a single whistleblower despite the necessity of thousands of demolition experts, etc.
Nothing will ever convince you. At least birthers have faded away.
but Obama lovers like you aren't gullible? There are holes in barry's bio throughout - and outright lies. Yet you swallow his story? Truthers & birthers at least have the sense to question the official govt approved version. You're so confidentally stupid that you look like a damn fool backing a guy nobody remembers anything about in college, a guy who spent lots of time in homo bathhouses, snorted coke, etc., etc...
jeffrey d. boomhauer wrote:
abandon hope wrote:you know, in the end, I prefer tea party fanatics wearing tri cornered hats and still asking for obama's birth certificate to 9/11 troofers.
You people are so cynical, so willing to believe anything, so blind to science, so smug, so plain dumb, that it just gets me madder than just about anything. Clearly nothing will ever persuade you that what happened happened. Not confessions, not science, not the lack of a single whistleblower despite the necessity of thousands of demolition experts, etc.
Nothing will ever convince you. At least birthers have faded away.
but Obama lovers like you aren't gullible? There are holes in barry's bio throughout - and outright lies. Yet you swallow his story? Truthers & birthers at least have the sense to question the official govt approved version. You're so confidentally stupid that you look like a damn fool backing a guy nobody remembers anything about in college, a guy who spent lots of time in homo bathhouses, snorted coke, etc., etc...
JFC
LRC is supposed to be a smarter place than this
I wonder how the families of 58000 Vietnam vets who died feel about the wild conspiracy theory that America injected itself into a war that politicians wanted over a contrived event?
Truffer? wrote:
I wonder how the families of 58000 Vietnam vets who died feel about the wild conspiracy theory that America injected itself into a war that politicians wanted over a contrived event?
it is absurd to say that usa went to war in vietnam over a contrived event.
first of all, there actually was a battle at tonkin. US jets strafed actual vietnamese torpedo boats. Whether there was second battle, 2 days later, is unclear. that's the controversy.
but anyway, ever heard of the cold war? domino theory? how about this: have you heard about the chinese and soviet takeovers of vietnam and korea?
tonkin was just a spark - the vietnam war woulda happened without it. there was no such event in korea, el salvador, grenada, panama, etc, and we still went to war.
but the bottom line is that there was a battle at tonkin.
your comparison is silly.
Truffer? wrote:
I wonder how the families of 58000 Vietnam vets who died feel about the wild conspiracy theory that America injected itself into a war that politicians wanted over a contrived event?
Same with WW2. Hundreds of thousands died because of Pearl Harbour (even the history books say the Americans planned/knew about it). Wars are not based on "logic" or technology they are based on FEAR.
eh, scratch the el salvador reference. not valid.
slam dunkk wrote:
911 explained in under 5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXyB5GtfBUIf you aren't a truther, your are a anti-truther. figure it out.
Just wondering if you are trying to be funny.
I mean, are there really minds so poorly suited to rational thought that they could watch this video and not be laughing pretty much the whole time?
slam dunkk wrote:
911 explained in under 5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXyB5GtfBUIf you aren't a truther, your are a anti-truther. figure it out.
EVERYBODY watch that video and then we can have a real discussion. I love the last line "ignorance is strength"!