Christian Hesch doping article in the NY Times/Competitor.com

Kevin Sullivan wrote:

Hesch trying to cash out 'till the end:

http://running.competitor.com/2012/10/staff-blog/staff-blog-anything-for-eyeballs_60384

Mario,

You need to do a much better job in picking your friends. Hesch has always been a selfish piece of shit. So are others that you seem to hold close. Jon Gugala is the least ethical jack ass in your business and yet you seem to be in lock step with him. Molly Priz has made herself the least liked person in Boulder after her domestic abuse case. You seem to look past these things and appear to be constantly working PR for them.

I felt sorry for you when reading how this Hesch thing went down. I am telling you you need to be careful who you call friends. These people make you look bad.

The NYT is a bit bigger of a venue for a story than competitor.com. Can't blame the journalist.

my wee wee has a knuckle. wrote:

lethal injection? The chair? severe anal rapage?

If only! Unfortunately, small claims courts generally limit judgements to a few thousand dollars.

Christian, you owe Jose Zavala (the RD) $1,150.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6Uxn6FnPo&feature=player_embedded

Also, I remember getting blown away by you on the first climb of the Debs Park 4 Mile Hill Challenge in 2010. The field had to be about 40 people, mostly high schoolers and hobbby joggers. I didn't know there was prize money, but since you showed up there must have been.

Hope it was all worth it.

webby wrote:

j2scoop wrote:http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2011/nycpuma/imagepages/image4.php

sweet

Hilarious.

This explains so much.

Wejo looks like a Stepford Doofus.

LRC facilitates and often refuses to take down slanderous and near slanderous posts on elites and then when called on it make excuses by citing what they do take down.

The level of character between this Hesch d-bag and the Blojo's is not that different.

Hesch is delusional and turns a blind eye to the full repercussions of his actions.

The Blojo's and their sock puppet, Employee #1, do the online journalistic equivalent of the same.

adsfasfds wrote:

The NYT is a bit bigger of a venue for a story than competitor.com. Can't blame the journalist.

Too bad the NYT isn't allowing comments on this piece. Someone really ought to tell them they've been used as a mouthpiece before they pay the writer.

Then again, the NYT has a long and sordid history of being used on stories much bigger than this. Remember the Judith Miller/Scooter Libby fiasco?

Bill Keller, paging Bill Keller -- you have a call from Julian Assange.

who are we saying these sort of things about today?

good times wrote:

Just did a forum search on "Hesch" and reading some past threads...

So fitting how many people, in praise and support of this fraud, nearly hit the nail on the head, things that seem to come up a lot:

...he wasn't even able to jog two weeks ago and just ran x...

...he doesn't look like he should be able to run that fast...

...so what if he chooses to clean house on prize $ at lower key road races...

At the moment, the Hesch story is the sixth-most-viewed piece on the entire NYT Web site. So shoddy journalism pays, it would seem.

Coming from someone who has watched him race, a neutral stand point, and slightly off topic, what if Hesch had dropped a few grand on an altitude tent to increase his hematocrit? Would this be OK? Understandably, his douche-baggery behavior at races upsets many, but what draws the line? Thoughts?

I also do not condone or agree with any actions he took.

seriousless wrote:

Coming from someone who has watched him race, a neutral stand point, and slightly off topic, what if Hesch had dropped a few grand on an altitude tent to increase his hematocrit? Would this be OK? Understandably, his douche-baggery behavior at races upsets many, but what draws the line? Thoughts?

I also do not condone or agree with any actions he took.

Who's to say the sugar mama-whore who supports him in Hollywood, didn't buy him one...

scanndolouss wrote:

MO TRAFEH is next!! I think he was part of that Nike run LA group way back.

Let's hope!

Sleeping in $5k dollar tent is no where near driving across the border to smuggle a banned drug back into the country to take though.

I see what you are trying to do with the tent comparison though but when you break the situation down like that it puts the kills that comparison you are trying to make.

And a tent is no where near as effective to taking synthetic EPO. It's a world of difference.

He may be based on the west coast but he runs all over. Just last month he stole $500 from a small Mile race in NJ.

Total Douche Bag.

You get no credit for "coming clean." Like an above poster said, he only fessed up because he got caught.[/quote]

I ran this race with him. What a a**hole. I contacted the event to see what they were planning on doing with the information.

http://oceanavenuemile.com/

What do you want to bet that he tries to trade information for a lesser ban from USADA.

Information, as to the other SoCal runners who "prefer" pharmacies.

One of the articles said that he was in New York over the weekend. Was he racing?

Jonathan Little wrote:

Suing Hesch:

I believe there are grounds to file suit in smalls claims court against him. I do not think he has the ability to pay, but I am willing bring this one for the betterment of the sport. Getting the judgment will hopefully make a statement. Please contact me, if you have lost money to Hesch and lets see what our options are.

jon@sllawfirm.com

Jon let us know if the Letsrun community can do anything to get behind your efforts. We need to send a clear message to these drug cheats that aren't welcome in our sport and if they get caught it is going to cost them a great deal.

Jonathan Little wrote:

Suing Hesch:

I believe there are grounds to file suit in smalls claims court against him. I do not think he has the ability to pay ...

In one of these videos, he appears to be sporting a wedding ring. If he has a sugar momma, maybe she will pay.

So Cal Pete wrote:

Not only that, but the young writer you contacted to do the NY Times piece (in an effort to control how this story was released) will have to answer for printing false information in his story - of course, he failed basic journalism by taking your word for what happened, so he's kind of on his own.

I don't see what Stephen printed that was false.

I'm not surprised that Christian lied to Scott Douglas.

The cheats usually do until they come clean when forced to.

I guess many would argue this line is way too lenient on Christian, "But as he followed Usada’s case against Armstrong, he decided to come clean."

As for Christian trying to cash in till the very end on Competitor.com. I don't see it that way at all. I just posted this in the comments of this article:

"I'm one of the founders of LetsRun.com. First, Stephen Kasica approached LetsRun with this story as well. I too from the description concluded the athlete was likely Christian Hesch. From that point on I see things differently than Mario. I decided the story was Stephen's since he brought it to us, even if he inadvertently gave away the athlete. Mario saw it differently. Mario told Christian, "Why would I want to link to another source if I was one of the first to catch wind of the story? The only reason I’m not writing it/breaking it myself is out of respect to you." 1) Mario wasn't the first to catch wind of the story. Stephen brought it to him. At that point Christian was off the record. So unless the story was, "Stephen Kasica pitched a story to us about an athlete on drugs who I've concluded was Christian Hesch" there was no story. Publishing such a story would definitely be the "anything for eyeballs" approach that Mario decries. That is why LetsRun.com concluded the story was Stephen's.

2) I have no idea if Stephen broke an agreement to do a story for Mario. Mario gives that impression. However, the agreement does not seem too firm as Mario had no problem in cancelling the story with Stephen. "I agreed to keep quiet as well, but would tell Kasica that the assignment was off."

3) I think we should be most upset for Christian for his decision to dope not because his piece on competitor.com was published only 10 minutes before a piece in the NYTimes.