NEW Atlantic Region XC *2009* thread

Cortland Shmortland. You all should be wearing white donkeys on your uniforms as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if Hamburger can run a good 3k on a track with ankle weights, 30 mph winds, hail, and a strap-on weighing 5 lbs. Why the F do you all insist on reciting random track PRs/records and trying to prove why Billy Bob's 8:30 3k that he ran at some random track meet is going to make him the next Ayele Abshero at Regionals? It's JUST NOT APPLICABLE, sorry! It's fun to make a few predictions but it gets a bit over the top when you all start manstruating and flipping on each other and trying to defend your team because SOMEONE thinks they aren't "top 5" material. Do you know this "someone" is probably a 27:5X guy who runs about 40 mpw in the summer, lives off macaroni and cheese, gets drunk off a 6-pack of Keystone 3 times a week while playing online poker and posting on here at the same time as he stares at his poster of Pre that hangs up on his bedroom wall next to a half-naked picture of Brittney Speares from senior year of high school?

JEEBUS H CHRISTMAS!!

Hodge is gone, Bell will return...Shea also graduates but wasn't impressive during cross last year anyhow

Some solid times from Geneseo at the Jenny Kuzma 5k in Bergen today, results aren't up yet though, will post

Results are up on Buffalorunners.com

1. Kyle Heath Syracuse NY 0:14:36 0:04:42 1/M20-24 1/M

2. Jordan Davis Syracuse NY 0:14:53 0:04:47 2/M20-24 2/M

3. Mark Andrews Rochester NY 0:15:06 0:04:52 1/M35-39 3/M

4. Chris Muldoon Tonawanda NY 0:15:11 0:04:53 1/M25-29 4/M

5. Tim Chichester Mt. Morris NY 0:15:13 0:04:54 3/M20-24 5/M

6. Neal Holtschulte Rochester NY 0:15:13 0:04:54 2/M25-29 6/M

7. Fontana Fluke Rochester NY 0:15:24 0:04:57 4/M20-24 7/M

8. Ryan Pauling Rochester NY 0:15:29 0:04:59 1/M30-34 8/M

9. Chris Mateer Webster NY 0:15:31 0:05:00 1/M15-19 9/M

10. Nick Guarino Bergen NY 0:15:57 0:05:08 5/M20-24 10/M

11. Nick Parder Olcott NY 0:16:00 0:05:09 2/M15-19 11/M

12. Teddy Quinn Rush NY 0:16:04 0:05:10 6/M20-24 12/M

13. Matt Avery Rochester NY 0:16:06 0:05:11 7/M20-24 13/M

14. William Haskell Henrietta NY 0:16:09 0:05:12 8/M20-24 14/M

15. Josh Guarino Bergen NY 0:16:11 0:05:13 9/M20-24 15/M

16. Chris Hine Rochester NY 0:16:14 0:05:14 3/M25-29 16/M

17. Mark Streb Brockport NY 0:16:16 0:05:14 10/M20-24 17/M

18. Dan Moore Geneseo NY 0:16:19 0:05:15 4/M25-29 18/M

19. Eric Ingalsbe Corfu NY 0:16:35 0:05:20 5/M25-29 19/M

20. Chad Byler Rochester NY 0:16:36 0:05:21 6/M25-29 20/M

21. Christopher Chichester Leicester NY 0:16:38 0:05:21 7/M25-29 21/M

22. Andrew MacDonald Amherst NY 0:16:44 0:05:23 3/M15-19 22/M

23. Ryan O'Connor East Aurora NY 0:16:48 0:05:24 11/M20-24 23/M

edited for atlantic region runners only

5. Tim Chichester Mt. Morris NY 0:15:13 0:04:54 3/M20-24 5/M

9. Chris Mateer Webster NY 0:15:31 0:05:00 1/M15-19 9/M

10. Nick Guarino Bergen NY 0:15:57 0:05:08 5/M20-24 10/M

11. Nick Parder Olcott NY 0:16:00 0:05:09 2/M15-19 11/M

13. Matt Avery Rochester NY 0:16:06 0:05:11 7/M20-24 13/M

14. William Haskell Henrietta NY 0:16:09 0:05:12 8/M20-24 14/M

15. Josh Guarino Bergen NY 0:16:11 0:05:13 9/M20-24 15/M

17. Mark Streb Brockport NY 0:16:16 0:05:14 10/M20-24 17/M

22. Andrew MacDonald Amherst NY 0:16:44 0:05:23 3/M15-19 22/M

23. Ryan O'Connor East Aurora NY 0:16:48 0:05:24 11/M20-24 23/M

Dear Josh and/or Nick, you could not kick my sorry ass because iv beaten you several times before. I apologize for calling funny looking but come on lets get real. Have you looked in the merrier? You look like a couple of valosa raptors.

......+1 wrote:

Dear Josh and/or Nick, you could not kick my sorry ass because iv beaten you several times before. I apologize for calling funny looking but come on lets get real. Have you looked in the merrier? You look like a couple of valosa raptors.

Let us know when you learn to spell mirror and grow the balls to speak without an anonymous handle. Until then shut the hell up and learn to treat people with a little more respect.

......+1 wrote:

You look like a couple of valosa raptors.

Cool story bro.

ok impossible to tell if youve beaten us several times before if you choose to remain anonymous, just to let you know last xc season was sub-par for both of us.

atlantic region is so gay. the only good runner is t fox the viking from st law.

seth yerne wrote:

atlantic region is so gay. the only good runner is t fox the viking from st law.

Unless Seth forgot how to spell his own last name... try again.

7. Fontana Fluke Rochester NY 0:15:24 0:04:57 4/M20-24 7/M

Ex-Atlantic Regioner, Alfred. Good to see people staying in shape.

looks like those results sparked no interest or debate.

I think it is because everyone realized how scary good Fredonia is. Their possible 3rd and 4th runners hovering around 16 flat on a fast road course is pretty unreal for Early August.

(sarcasm)

Gonna have to do better than that to crack into even the top 8

Before the seasons officially get started and everyone gets to campus I think everyone should post their top 5 teams on both the men's and women's side just to see what the general concensus is:

MEN

1) Cortland

2) Geneseo

3) SLU

4) NYU

5) Plattsburgh

WOMEN

1) SLU

2) Geneseo

3) Cortland

4) NYU

5) Plattsburgh

Same teams on both sides, different orders.

Honeywell wrote:

Before the seasons officially get started and everyone gets to campus[,] I think everyone should post [his or her] top 5 teams on both the men's and women's [sides] just to see what the general [consensus] is:

MEN

1) Cortland

2) Geneseo

3) SLU

4) NYU

5) Plattsburgh

WOMEN

1) SLU

2) Geneseo

3) Cortland

4) NYU

5) Plattsburgh

Same teams on both sides, different orders.

As usual, major props to someone who's willing, even anonymously, to make an actual, specific prediction. (I'm assuming that these are your predictions for how the teams will stand after the Regional meet--or are you just predicting where they'll be in the initial poll?)

I'm both too chicken and too uninformed to do the same. For instance, even though I try to keep tabs on the NYC teams, I have little or no idea of whom the NYU men will be able to put on the course. That school has so many guys who take semesters/years abroad, it's hard to know whom they'll have before they put up their first September roster.

OTOH Honeywell is, I think, the first poster to predict that the NYU women will be top four. (If they do get there, bragging rights will belong to him/her.) A look at their preliminary roster indicates 15 returnees, and I'm hearing (though maybe third- or fourth-hand) that the Violets recruited well and may end up with a roster about twice that size, once the newcomers are added. Rookies often help women's teams right away, so it'll be interesting to see whether the NYU team moves from being competitive to Nationals-bound.

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Separate question: How does Vassar look? Now that they've added varsity track and field, it should be easier for them to keep their cross athletes running year-round. Projections for the Brewers?

Alright I'll bite.

Men:

1) Geneseo

2) SLU

3) Cortland

4) NYU

5) Fredonia

I need to do some more homework, then I'll venture a women's prediction.

I agree with kibitzer about NYU men, they're always kind of an unknown. As far as Vassar goes, they've definitely been improving a lot over the past couple seasons, but I think they have a couple seasons to go before they can compete with the top 7 or 8 teams in the region.

How about individuals? Anyone see any surprises in the top 10?

1-Oregon, I mean Cortland

2-SLU

3-Geneseo

4-Plattsburgh

5-NYU

Big Will wrote:

I agree with kibitzer about NYU men, they're always kind of an unknown.

In addition to which, I just checked their schedule for the fall and, if they follow previous years, their front seven may not appear until 9/26, at Williams (or maybe not until three weeks later, at Oberlin?). Their women have the same schedule, but McDonough might or might not handle them the same way...