"My Stolen NCAA Championship" - Female Athlete Who Lost Women's National Title to Male Tells Her Side of Story

But here’s the problem. Of course everyone should be treated with basic dignity and respect. That’s a given. But what the trans movement demands as “dignity and respect” is a rearranging of reality itself in order to conform to their own (false) view of what sex and gender actually is. If it was a request for general kindness and compassion, then yes of course. But it’s not that. It’s a demand that you believe in entirely different, novel and false anthropology. Compelling someone to use your “preferred pronouns” isn’t asking them to “be respectful,” it’s asking them to believe what is in essence a completely false, dangerous and profoundly stupid idea—that the way we discern what our gender is is not by the objective nature our bodies—whether we produce large gametes (eggs) or small gametes (sperm), but rather this inner-felt subjective psychological “sense” that we must never question, and which it is impossible to verify as true or false, because only the one “experiencing” that has access to verifying the claim.

Do you understand how stupid that is?

It’s not a case of simply letting a certain marginalized group have the rights and recognition that they did not enjoy in the past due to bigotry/ignorance, etc. It’s that this posited “marginalized group” does not even exist.

Well this demands further exploration. Maybe we just have been ignorant about all of this, and still are. I am going to say we have a hung jury here, pun intended. I am going to reserve judgment on this trans phenomenon until we have more knowledge. In the meantime, treat trans people with compassion, no minors get chemical or surgical intervention, they can stay out of female sports, and we need to learn more about this before we label them as delusional or mentally ill, because maybe we are morons ourselves about this, and we need to learn more, and even if they are mentally ill, which I doubt, the mentally ill need compassion too.

Yes, I think this is right. By “delusion,” I don’t necessarily mean that in a negative way. Broadly, it just means a misperception of reality, a misperception that might be entirely honest on the part of the perceiver, but nonetheless not a true depiction of reality. And yes, the mentally ill definitely deserve compassion, sympathy and real care, not the dangerous pseudo-fix that is “gender-affirming care.”

you're frauds. under this president you have mastered insincere rhetoric that is just polished enough if you aren't paying attention how people act or the inconsistencies of the whole package, you could get it wrong.

dude, do not pretend to be compassionate when are in fact seeking license to be a big ol jerk. do not pretend to be compassionate when you not only dismiss someone's conscious thoughts, but put zero money where your mouth is on care, and in reality try to make their lives a living hell while saying it's ok because all manner of brutality is justified to jolt the deluded.

dude, y'all are so fake. in the grander scheme of things, those regretting gender surgery (1-3%) are small potatoes compared to, say, those regretting getting their boobs done (5-9%).

97-99% is almost unanimous. we're talking 1-3 of every 100 people. you can't get 97-99 people to agree on almost anything.

i am not even sure if that low a regret rate even justifies denying it to kids, since the vast majority are contented.

i mean the whole premise of this thread is some lady using emotionalism to try and distort her own personal history to manipulate people. she won the 2023 400H title. but we're gonna leave that out and ask for the headline to be how telfer denied her a title.

you then pretend to be compassionate by calling them crazy, offering no care for those you feign to diagnose, and then trying to exclude them from public life unless they accept your take on their situation.

to be clear, you're pushing the mental illness angle even though it's been decades since we treated gender issues as a general problem of anyone in that situation. in reality psychology decades ago switched to being concerned with psychopathological versions and does not view your average trans person as nuts.

if you're gonna throw around psychology catch up to 2025 mainstream psychological understanding. not just let me dust off decades old DSM versions or apply psychology like we're in the 1950s.

Your obsession with this is palpable. If you're sick of it, stop reading and posting about it. It's that simple. But you can't, can you?

Mainstream psychology is a joke. It's hardly a science anymore. There are "mainstream" psychologists now saying pedophilia is ok, calling pedophiles "minor attracted people."

I am still passionately against the bigotry of folks like you. You make be ashamed to be human.

Please get help. And stop obsessing over children. Leads them alone. You remind me of the closeted Republican man who touches kids.

we tolerate the samoan in world cup soccer, or the girl playing baseball for brown, or the girls playing football in d1 or d3, because this is not actually about strict policing of the gender lines, or locker rooms, or all that malarkey. it's about supposed unfairness.

we say it's fair for women or gays to play with men because that's "fair."

we then generally ignore that most of these trans athletes are about as good as JV or junior high boys. which is pertinent to evaluating fairness.

the icky part is they pretend there's a strict line when there isn't. the line is fluid heading boy. they then if pressed pretend like the football star sprinter is the one transitioning when most of the time it's an effeminate scrub who would be running JV or worse as a boy.

to me it's a basic failure to acknowledge the type of person who is likely to want to present as female and still play sports. i doubt many trans people want to switch to pink then play sports. and the ones who do i doubt want to express some macho, physical persona.

it's a basically misleading discussion.

You should be ashamed. I'm proud to stand up for women's & girl's rights, sports and spaces. But I'm also proud to stand up for boys who are more feminine and girls who are "tomboys" who should not have their healthy reproductive organs surgically removed and sentenced to lifelong drug and hormone treatments. Let them grow up to be intact and healthy, whatever their sexuality turns out to be.

the guy the other day who 5 seconds after making headlines offering a bill about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" was caught propositioning an underage girl.

if people want to pretend they care or have compassion, come up with some other solution than "go back in the old box right now." to me the solution while people grow the eff up is a third category. i don't like bullies. i don't like watching jerks try to shove people out of sports over politics.

come up with some other way they get to play other than you trying to wind the clock back to 1950. if it's unpopular right now to have them with girls, ok, let's do a third category with wheelchair, special olympics, and everyone else the current model forgets leaves out.

get your bigoted, exclusionist, accept my politics or drop out of sport, crap out of the fun.

Yeah so who are you arguing against? Surely not me. You seem awfully proud about taking a common sense position on something. So what? I don’t think most people are pounding the drum in favor of interventions regarding minors.

re "assignment at birth," one reason the GOP moves the goalposts around is sometimes, particularly in poor countries, they still just go by what they see, and they see female, but they have internal male parts.

or, someone might have a natural hormonal issue.

or you might have a genetic issue where you will have some male hormonal things but be physically female.

most of those would be labeled female on a birth certificate, or given a choice, if they have to play within the boxes.

hence we end up shifting the goalposts over to something like hormones or genes even if someone would present as female, could get pregnant, etc. would be accepted in the locker or bath rooms thrown down as the supposed end all be all.

so, yeah, you look at semenya and you can see where the issue actually extends beyond trans and takes a narrower view of female than they would admit. a birth certificate might not be enough when the goalposts are set up certain ways. eg you might be allowed to play sports in texas but not in pro level.

as someone from the south it starts to sound a little bigoted and "one drop of blood." like we are protecting a certain kind of woman, prototypically blonde with a millimeter science and religious veneer around it, from progressivism. and any hint of masculinity in any number of directions -- including just being a tomboy -- is seen as progressive.

after all i have heard stories of biological girls who are gay or simply present as fairly tomboy, getting harassed over whether deep down they are boys excluded under these rules. where's your birth certificate, make her take a test, etc.

you see where at a point that is not even necessarily about protecting, but as much about bashing someone who doesn't come off as a blonde haired blue eyed pony tail wearing stereotype. which covers not just trans but also those who don't try to look the part. you start to see where politics and a particular view of womanhood is coming in.

you want me to get particularly punchy i will point out to the self labeled protectors of the locker rooms are the ones giving jim jordan positions of power after what he either missed or decided to overlook.

or who esteem folks like gaetz, tate, and trump.

or who stripped away women's sexual rights.

are you kidding me, protecting women.

You're not paying attention then, because they are beating that drum.

Of course, mistakes are made. It's not easy to predict how a new born baby would phenotypically develop, especially with some DSDs like PAIS (partial androgen insensitivity syndrome). This happens in both directions. (People who were assigned female at birth developing male sex characteristics and vice versa.)

This is also closely related to one's gender identity. A person assigned female at birth and raised as female is more likely to develop gender incongruence if they start developing male secondary characteristics.

How easy or hard to correct this depends on where you live.

Here are a few studies on this.

https://europepmc.org/article/med/17643082

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gender dysphoria associated with disorders of sex development - PubMed

Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are estimated to be prevalent in 0.1-2% of the global population, although these figures are unlikely to adequately represent non-white patients as they are largely based on studies perform...

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