Thank you, rojo. It's extremely annoying to see the Wiley camp get away with this PR scam, suppressing reasonable doubts with post deletions, and distorting your polls with VPNs.
I'd love to see a code tweak to combat the up/down vote scheme. Even disabling voting for Wiley threads would be an improvement.
The same Regina Jacobs that was banned due to Balco?
You yahoos want to celebrate this garbage, ok. You do you. But it is a farce. You can make a complete mockery of this sport if you are willing to burn your reputation down to embers.
... I am not saying she is clean
The arrogance and absurdity of you people. It's so self-serving. Why else would you profess to love a sport, impliedly support the work of anti-doping agencies, and then tear down performances that could be enjoyed? Deriving the legitimacy of your slurs, too, from the fact a convicted drug taker held the record previously. Come on.
Many Congratulations on the new record. A year of outstanding performances. I'm amazed and grateful to be a middle aged man who was an international athlete in his day who would now get shown a clean pair of heels. Such a spectacle.
The arrogance and absurdity of you people. It's so self-serving. Why else would you profess to love a sport, impliedly support the work of anti-doping agencies, and then tear down performances that could be enjoyed? Deriving the legitimacy of your slurs, too, from the fact a convicted drug taker held the record previously. Come on.
Many Congratulations on the new record. A year of outstanding performances. I'm amazed and grateful to be a middle aged man who was an international athlete in his day who would now get shown a clean pair of heels. Such a spectacle.
So how do clean athletes take down records set by similarly talented athletes who were doping?
Wiley’s lawyers right now📸 Wiley has had a case against this site for a long time and damn it continues to build. When she comes for the site it’s going to be BIG
Id take a step back Rojo
I doubt it. No position taken. No headline. This is just conversation and it happens about every runner. St. Pierre. Rowbury. Houlihan. Wiley isn't special. We still have the first amendment. Not everywhere does have that freedom.
With AW it is not just the question of doping, but that she is coached/mentored by sociopaths. That is what is distinguishable, the sheer brazenness of it and the outright intent to mock the sport. That is a Johnsons signature. (I still laugh at the crude attempt to claim they were not still coaching her.). It is doping with a chip on their shoulder, that violates all red lines, starting in high school. Then to top it off someone likely connected to her engages in this laughable vpn/sockpuppet driven pr campaign for her. The naive board yahoos who think no one can possibly be doping are just a bonus.
And the parallels to this and that rogue 1600 she ran in high school are patent. Obscure meet. Very low scrutiny. And, like magic, a record.
Anyway we are watching someone go full Houlihan. The 800 record is the dirtiest in the sport, and bc this sport cannot police itself I am betting Wiley at least breaks the US record. Fittingly at an obscure meet in Albania.
The arrogance and absurdity of you people. It's so self-serving. Why else would you profess to love a sport, impliedly support the work of anti-doping agencies, and then tear down performances that could be enjoyed? Deriving the legitimacy of your slurs, too, from the fact a convicted drug taker held the record previously. Come on.
Many Congratulations on the new record. A year of outstanding performances. I'm amazed and grateful to be a middle aged man who was an international athlete in his day who would now get shown a clean pair of heels. Such a spectacle.
How stupid are you? I have been defending AW against baseless attacks. Are you saying she is clean? How stupid are you? You must be very stupid if your position is anything other than you don’t know, which is the only intelligent position.
1. Are we at all capable of having a conversation about any young American female runner WITHOUT dragging Katelyn Tuohy into it? What does Tuohy have to do with Wiley or Valby or anyone else at this point? They are all pros making their way.
2. The Wiley situation has always been really scary and disturbing. At the center of it is a very young woman, who was once a young girl who survived cancer, and survived ab*se. It's hard to imagine that anyone in that situation would not be deeply manipulated if they are still affiliating with the individuals that caused so much trauma to her. It's sad to watch. Why doesn't she have adults around her who care enough to see it for what it is?
3. Why did Adidas sign her when they knew about the coaches she was working with? Such an irresponsible decision.
4. I don't care about running fast when so much ab*se and trauma is associated with it. I don't care about fast times when cheating at a young age is what is needed to get there. But I think Addy (if cheating) is a different situation than say a Houlihan or an adult doper even though she is over age 18. This all happened to her so young. She was completely taken advantage of. What a failure.
Changing the thread title to what you did is one of the most disgusting things you have ever done on this website, Rojo, and that is really saying something.
Gotta love an unemployed man who sits at home all day living off Daddy's money, who can't even spell the word cat if you are spotted the C and the T, who can't fix a toilet, who gets locked in your own garage, who is so socially awkward that you can't even understand the obvious joke made by Valby about her "tattoos,", who has the English grammar skills of at best a middle school student, who doesn't even run and has simply gotten fat - attacking a young girl who is the one of the most talented young runners in American history, who donates thousands of dollars of her own money to help children with cancer (long before she ever signed an NIL or pro deal - it was HER OWN MONEY), who is loved by everyone who has ever met her, humble and deeply religious, and a true positive light in this world.
I guess you are still upset that she completely humiliated you one year ago without even lifting a finger after you bragged about calling her agent and trying to derail her career. Thought you were so influential in the running world and found out the hard way that nobody cares about you or your opinions. And then Wiley ran a 3:59 to just rub it in your face. I don't think I have ever seen someone get their "man card" so completely stripped away so effortlessly by a teenage girl.
Now go back to eating your Cheetos and watching Netflix while your wife works a job and Wiley continues to shine as bright as the sun on the track, and brightens the faces of young cancer patients when she visits them and gives them stuffed animals to comfort them in the hospital while they deal with their life-threatening ordeals.