I can't find WADA saying that -- can you provide the exact quote in context?
Thanks in advance.
You will have to find it, as I did.
Thanks for acknowledging that you have no response to that point.
I suspect you never found it, because WADA didn't say it. WADA said something else you misunderstood.
I prefer to follow the data. According to WADA's official data, athletics can be easily distinguished from bodybuilding, weightlifing as well as cycling, by both number of tests (the highest), and positive test rates (the lowest).
Compared to bodybuilding, weightlifting had about 10x the tests, cycling about 20x, and athletics about 30x.
Compared to athletics, cycling had a 36% higher rate of AAFs, weightlifting had more than 2x, and bodybuilding had nearly 28x.
It's also a fact that you don't know that every world class runner is doping. It's also a fact that you don't know those British athletes were roided out of their skulls if they never tested positive. You seem to have a problem with your epistemology.
It's also a fact that constantly claiming that EVERY athlete is doped only serves to trivialize the fact that doping is clearly more prevalent in certain regions than others.
I have eyes.What i see,is enough for me. Theyre not called bulky brits for no reason. They didnt test positive because the UK is very good at hiding,and covering up its doping,apart from the odd positive test (sacrificial lamb).They,like other countries,and sponsors etc protect most top athletes. Thats just the sport. You dont like my comment? too bad. I know im right,and i wont change my mind just because it offends you. One day youll end up eating crow,and you''ll remember my comments ,and youre gonna go 'woops.he was right,I was wrong'. Still,if its any consolation,I think doping in USA is much worse. Kenya,too. Also im not a troll,because unlike a lot of other users,ive never ever once been nasty to you,or attacked you,on here. And i never will.
Wow I see that you and Coevett go back a long way!!!! I think you both have your points and they are all valid on a whole. I certainly agree that UK is more tame in terms of doping than the very corrupt Americans and Canadians. The Balcos, the Salazars, Ben Johnsons, the Jeffrey Browns, America started it, Russia copied and followed it years later. UK is so soft in comparison like what have UK done of note compared to America and Russia????
UK folks are also the sweetest and nicest people on earth!!!!! They have much better morals and ethics than the other 2. And so well-mannered.
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Thanks for acknowledging that you have no response to that point.
I suspect you never found it, because WADA didn't say it. WADA said something else you misunderstood.
I prefer to follow the data. According to WADA's official data, athletics can be easily distinguished from bodybuilding, weightlifing as well as cycling, by both number of tests (the highest), and positive test rates (the lowest).
Compared to bodybuilding, weightlifting had about 10x the tests, cycling about 20x, and athletics about 30x.
Compared to athletics, cycling had a 36% higher rate of AAFs, weightlifting had more than 2x, and bodybuilding had nearly 28x.
WADA did say it. It is just you have never read it because your "research" is confined to what you already believe.
The numbers of tests don't indicate the incidence of doping - some sports and some countries test more than others - and nor do the positives, since most dopers escape being caught.
But the basis of your argument is the supremely stupid claim that if you don't know something it doesn't exist. You are, after all, the authority on all things - from your keyboard.
Can you actually provide a quote where I said that Attaoui's progression was suspicious? you seem to be putting words into my mouth. What I said, and I what I believe, is that the sudden number of North African/North African descent runners running exceptional times is likely due to a new method of doping. Also, any Spaniard with a North African background running very fast times is legitimately suspect given their history, to anbody with any sense, just as it's legitimate to question a Jamaican running extraordinarily fast according to you.
You said Pattison was the fastest clean 800m runner in the world and we know what that entails. I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone under 1:44 in the 800m is popped. That’s the sport and its history. I am definitely suspicious by Sedjati coming out of nowhere and his ability to kick off any pace…Tuals emergence is somewhat inexplicable. Nobody else really jumps out to me, and your bias is immediately recognizable with who you like to assume is doped from there with haphazard or prejudiced thinking.
Gosh, I thought I was blunt, but you have taught me way more about being blunt today LOL!!!!!!!!! You couldn't have said it any better, I think you are the 1-2 persons on this forum that knows my heart the best. Luv you Armstrong!!!!!!!
Can you actually provide a quote where I said that Attaoui's progression was suspicious? you seem to be putting words into my mouth. What I said, and I what I believe, is that the sudden number of North African/North African descent runners running exceptional times is likely due to a new method of doping. Also, any Spaniard with a North African background running very fast times is legitimately suspect given their history, to anbody with any sense, just as it's legitimate to question a Jamaican running extraordinarily fast according to you.
You said Pattison was the fastest clean 800m runner in the world and we know what that entails. I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone under 1:44 in the 800m is popped. That’s the sport and its history. I am definitely suspicious by Sedjati coming out of nowhere and his ability to kick off any pace…Tuals emergence is somewhat inexplicable. Nobody else really jumps out to me, and your bias is immediately recognizable with who you like to assume is doped from there with haphazard or prejudiced thinking.
So I didn't say anything about Attoui's progression - thanks for confirming that you lied.
Yes, a few sub 1:44 men have been busted - Nijel Amos, Alfred Kipketer, Asbel Kiprop, Michael Saruni, Nicholas Kipkoetch, Kipyeogen Bett. Looking at those names, and what they have in common, I can see why you would be suspicous of Pattison.
You said Pattison was the fastest clean 800m runner in the world and we know what that entails. I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone under 1:44 in the 800m is popped. That’s the sport and its history. I am definitely suspicious by Sedjati coming out of nowhere and his ability to kick off any pace…Tuals emergence is somewhat inexplicable. Nobody else really jumps out to me, and your bias is immediately recognizable with who you like to assume is doped from there with haphazard or prejudiced thinking.
So I didn't say anything about Attoui's progression - thanks for confirming that you lied.
Yes, a few sub 1:44 men have been busted - Nijel Amos, Alfred Kipketer, Asbel Kiprop, Michael Saruni, Nicholas Kipkoetch, Kipyeogen Bett. Looking at those names, and what they have in common, I can see why you would be suspicous of Pattison.
And Jamaicans.
Amine Laâlou (1:43.25) was popped for rocket fuel.
People entered in this category have either: Been suspended by a sporting body (an international governing body, a national federation, or a professional league) for illegal performance-enhancing drug, and/or banned drug, use...
So I didn't say anything about Attoui's progression - thanks for confirming that you lied.
Yes, a few sub 1:44 men have been busted - Nijel Amos, Alfred Kipketer, Asbel Kiprop, Michael Saruni, Nicholas Kipkoetch, Kipyeogen Bett. Looking at those names, and what they have in common, I can see why you would be suspicous of Pattison.
And Jamaicans.
You’re losing your touch. Your first sentence is easily refuted. When you say someone is doped you are attacking their progression implicitly. Doping is used to accelerate your progression or advance the maximal point of it. So you are in fact the one lying, and since you’ve never ever posted anything walking back that assessment of Attaoui, you can’t wiggle out of that. And if you can find an instance where I’ve ever specifically been suspicious of Pattison individually sure call it out. But it doesn’t exist.
