Valbymania: Shoe Companies Expecting Great Things! Her base may be between 650k-800k

BTW, do you find it rather interesting the times listed are actually faster in the years before the advent of “super shoes/spikes”?

I completely buy the cross-training story, since it is verified by other parties without reason to believe they are liars like you.

Regarding upping her mileage, her coach said they are up higher than what they were in cross-country, with some long runs up to 12miles in distance.

What people like you are missing is that when she does trade off for more mileage, then something will have to give. She may have to reduce the Arc Training load as a result, and based on the descriptions of her Arc Training, she actually may lose some aerobic strength conditioning benefit in that exchange.

All that said, I’m not suggesting she will break 14:30/30:00 this year, let alone this week. But why can she continue to progress on the training she is already progressing on? If she doesn’t go to altitude, maybe she’ll at least sleep in an altitude tent (like Jake Wightman), if she doesn’t already.

“But why can she *not continue to progress on the training she is already progressing on,” if she can progress in a reasonable manner and avoid injury. But my concern is with something I see in her stride. I hope this increased loading in prep for the Olympics has not been beyond what she is able to adapt to.

There’s a difference between questioning and alleging. Astro is alleging not questioning. It’s libel and it’s disgusting.

Not gonna lie; I'm a little bit envious. But it shows you that hard work can improve what you *do* have.

Most Americans are just trying to make it day to day and get through the years fast to retirement. Retirement is a long way off...everyone is looking forward to the weekends more than not. They are precious...

Big Valby fan but she wouldn't have been close to medaling last summer. The last lap in the 5000m was 56 to finish in a 14:53. Her kick might be slightly better than Monson's but that's not a high bar

No. I offer reasons, and valid ones. When you can suddenly smash the college 10000m record like you are on a training run, that is suspicious. I will take my track record on this issue over all of you.

This is a doping sport, and anything anomalous or too good to true, as a rule, is not. But to the aspiring online lawyers, allow me to explain the difference between a reasonable, if disagreeable opinion, and libel:

1. Not libel-"I think so and so, who has exhibited a sudden ability to smash college records, has shown an seemingly unnatural ability to recover from injury that even her competitors have publicly noticed, does not show natural fatigue or have the normal ups and downs of even terrific ncaa runners like Nico Young, with the most conspicuous example being that ncaa indoor escapade that no natural runner would emulate, whose training explanations are not credible, and who clearly has a major financial incentive to potentially dope, is doping."

2. Libel-"I saw so and so injecting steroids in the restroom and I have the proof."

Not hard. In a doping sport, when you smash college records by a minute and can kamikaze every race, you get scrutiny. And lets face it. Thus board had never met a verified doper it wont twist itself into a pretzel to defend. Undertrained. Multisport athlete. Late bloomer. Now crosstrainer. The list never ends. When this board defended Houlihan to the hilt, and cannot see a layup case like Chemusto, I no longer care what you think.

I will piggyback onto your point with the reason why I care about this, and it's because there ARE athletes that are clean and doing everything right. We want to see those athletes, some of whom we even know, do well and not get screwed over by other athletes skirting the rules.

Notice as in one notorious case that when it moved onto the pros I no longer care. Good luck then. It is when I think you are doing it in what has been a safe harbor like college distance running that I speak up and give a damn. That to me is as low as it gets.

To me your repeated unfounded doping allegations of a college runner is as low as it gets.

Correction: To me your repeated unfounded ANONYMOUS allegations of a college runner is as low as it gets.

If you are so certain that Valby is doping and if you are so seriously outraged by it, then stand by your allegations by revealing your identity. Go on the record with who you are and what you are alleging Parker Valby is doing.

then presumably you feel the same way about other posters who make comments about other athletes?

astro is bad for the sport

Valby = GOAT

Yes, but I don’t see any other poster who has repeatedly made allegations about any one particular athlete to the degree that Astro has targeted Valby. Please correct me if I’m wrong. How many posts has Astro made alleging that Valby is doping over the past couple of years? At least 500?

There was a thread about Tuohy being a generational talent and the main point was that she had broken a 30+ year old record while in high school. You now tell us that is indicative of being a doper.

there are various posters who have accused Tuohy..."Tuohy is watching", "Slow Tuohy" are 2 that come to mind. This seems to be their reaction to accusations directed at Valby. I am not defending Astro. These threads to turn into one accusation vs another are of little value imho.

I don't think anyone ever accuses her. They use Astro's rationale to make people realize that he is being silly.