I would be so pissed at New Gen if my kids were in these photos and portrayed this way. Play pretend bullying then post it on the internet, no thanks.
I have a teenage daughter that's starting to get good at this running thing. I would be furious if I saw her in pics like this while supposedly attending a running camp.
The fact that one of the female campers replied to THIS THREAD shows that Ben is fully aware of the situation, and is trying to orchestrate responses to save face. finally fits into an XXXL shirt and acts like a moron.
If New Gen had responded respectfully from the beginning, they wouldn’t be staring in the face of potential doom for their “brand.” The bullying post is out of taste, but not so bad that it would have incriminated them alone (i.e., if Emma didn’t leave a comment).
They created an enemy in Emma and frankly the rest of the running community at this point. If they handled things professionally, they’d have some people on their side. But nobody of significance in the running community is going to support them now.
With the reactions on this thread, I fully expected to see pictures of some girl being pissed on by a bunch of laughing men, or something equally shocking. But an artistic montage of a girl being bullied? You Karens need to get a life. It really isn't that bad, nor does it send any messages of "bullying is good, women are bad" like people are claiming.
With the reactions on this thread, I fully expected to see pictures of some girl being pissed on by a bunch of laughing men, or something equally shocking. But an artistic montage of a girl being bullied? You Karens need to get a life. It really isn't that bad, nor does it send any messages of "bullying is good, women are bad" like people are claiming.
You can’t type these two thoughts publicly and be taken seriously
What is your guys problem with me i never traded drugs for sex in middle school 😭 where are you getting this information from you all need to stop attacking Also who ever in here is using the name Andre Harrison it’s not me- Andre Harrison
Agreed. As other posters have said, very groomery. And the comment on calling Ben Crawford “sugar daddy,” playful as it may be, isn’t appropriate for a 20-something “counselor” of high school-aged or incoming-college-freshman females. Gross.
With the reactions on this thread, I fully expected to see pictures of some girl being pissed on by a bunch of laughing men, or something equally shocking. But an artistic montage of a girl being bullied? You Karens need to get a life. It really isn't that bad, nor does it send any messages of "bullying is good, women are bad" like people are claiming.
You can’t type these two thoughts publicly and be taken seriously
Hey, if you don't mind, I really am curious about what the vision for this camp is and why it's branded as a running camp and a media/creative camp. I don't understand what the purpose of bringing running talents and creatives together in a camp is, beyond just promoting NGTF. You could read my post on page 3 if you haven't yet.
I would really be curious about your perspective on the camp. Were you a running talent or a creative there? I assume you had to apply to go? Do you know if everyone there (including sahlman, burns, burnbaum, etc.) applied or were invited? How did you see your relationship with the people running the camp? More as friends or were they in a mentorship/authority position to the people there?
I am skeptical of the camp, but I want to hear your view on it and respect that, if you're willing to share.
Not responding definitely makes me feel like, as one person said in this thread, Ben is aware of the situation here and is using you to save face.
Are you worried if you say something bad about the camp or NGTF that they will retaliate against you?
I am all for edgy content and subversive media related to running but it is best to not involve teenagers there are plenty of adults to take photos and make media.
I don’t think a media brand should be so focused on teens and even if they offered a camp or class with proper training prior it is still student work it and it is unusual to post student work on the main account like that
the giving kids booze accusation from another post is obviously problematic if true, but based on publicly available information, the diffference I see between Billy and Ben is that it seems like Billy is hired by actual companies to be a sort of emcee/entertainer at hs meets, whereas Ben is just on his own trying to make himself into this pied piper for high school runners
I think the thing is, if you’re a man in your 30’s, you don’t need to be best buddies with high school runners. It’s like go make friends with other men in their 30’s
Also I think it’s ironic that the new gen guys like to call Centro immature, meanwhile they’re playing Instagram photo shoot with high schoolers. Centro has an Olympic gold medal, compared to him all the new gen guys are just internet trolls
I thought it was interesting that in their now deleted gaslighting post, they mentioned the shoot was inspired by movies from the 80s and 90s all while claiming to have new ideas. They even specifically mentioned the movie "Dazed and Confused."
"That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."