Supreme Court ends affirmation action

Is that why we have a wide-open southern border?

Do you believe in the ideal that everybody living in this country should have an equal opportunity to succeed as defined by concrete things like income, good housing, excellent health care, safety, etc? If not, ok full stop, no need to discuss further. However, if yes, do you feel equal opportunity currently exists? If yes, full stop, no need for further discussion. If not, then we get into the realm of what remedies are best. Are remedies only based on race best? Definitely not. Should the remedies completely disregard race? I think not based on the history of this country, but I’m open to hearing about policies that are blind to race if their intention and outcome truly and demonstrably serves to promote equal opportunity for all. If this is where you sit, suggest some good race blind strategies that serve this goal. If you don’t agree with this goal or feel it’s already been achieved, then we have no chance to agree.

Only a superficial bigot can even think of defending the systemic racism that is affirmative action.

Using the classic white supremacist move — pitting minorities against one another — SFFA asserts that Harvard’s race-conscious admissions “penalizes Asian Americans” for the undue benefit of African American and Latinx applicants. Such a conniving conservative argument (“race-conscious admissions are reverse racism!”) is just another instance of white supremacy wagging its unwieldy head, calling discriminatory a measure designed to correct the discrimination that white supremacists themselves have perpetuated.

Everyone does have an equal opportunity to succeed. Anyone is able to take the SAT.

In recent times, intelligence has become much more valuable for jobs. People have been stratified based off of their average IQ. High IQ areas are doing better than ever before, with incomes significantly higher and other measures of success higher as well. SuperZips are high IQ zip codes that embody this trend perfectly. To illustrate this, Charles Murray wrote:

"In 2010, 87 percent of the students with 700-plus scores in Critical Reading or Mathematics had a parent with a college degree, and 57 percent had a parent with a graduate degree. Those percentages could have been predicted pretty closely just by knowing the facts about the IQs associated with different educational levels and the correlation between parental and child IQ...the exceptionally qualified have been so efficiently drawn into the ranks of the upper-middle class...highly disproportionate numbers of exceptionally able children in the next generation will come from parents in the upper-middle class"

Unfortunately, the opposite trend has occurred for low IQ people.

She's African. According to the libs, she doesn't count as truly black.

So the easiest way to boost the academic performance of black children is to accept more African immigrants. Not only they instantly raise the average test scores of black students, but they will also create a community of well-educated and highly motivated black people who have positive peer influence on black children born in the US.

If you could replace African-Americans with African immigrants, racial achievement gaps would be virtually nonexistent.

Annnnnd we found out the real reason why your target schools rejected you (not because of your race). That didn’t take long.

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This guy’s really wants to talk about merit.

This fantasy world of equal outcome you're envisioning has never and will never exist.

Hard to believe you truly think everybody in this country has an equal opportunity to succeed, but if you do, there’s no need for further discussion.

"There are relatively few middle class black families although of course they exist."

WTF? So you think most black people are in poverty in 2023? Yes, we have the highest percentage living in poverty in America (about 20%), but you just ignore the other 80% who aren't in poverty?

Newsflash, most blacks are middle class, just like most Americans in 2023. This isn't 1923 with Jim Crow.

As for poor whites, what is their excuse for not making it in a country that was stolen and gave them privilege's through laws for 400 years as they treated people of color as 2nd class citizens.

Everyone has the same opportunity to apply to colleges and jobs. Different outcomes doesn't mean that the opportunity is different.

Do twins always have the exact same success? Or will one have a better work ethic and intelligence and do better?

Harvard could simply refuse federal funds and do what it wants.

It depends what you mean by middle class. I obviously don't think most black people are living in poverty.

Sure until "the other side" decides to pack it (and naming justices with a viewpoint is not "packing" the court).

I'm not saying anything that black people haven't said. Of course you don't consider any black person who disagrees with you to really be black because you're so above racism...

No one denies that systemic racism existed. Only fools suggest it's still a huge problem in 2023.

You fill your jeans over white suicide and refer to "my kind" and you don't see even a hint of racism there?

Just want to point out again for anybody cheering or despairing over this decision, the University of California and the Cal State system have been legally barred from considering race in admissions decisions for almost 30 years. The practical impact of Prop 209 has been negligible because the institutional values have not changed regardless of the changing legal landscape. Harvard and UNC and the others will tweak their practices to be in compliance with the law with no discernible difference in whatever outcomes they seek. This is both a message to the conservatives to go pound sand and to the liberals to get a grip, the sky is not falling. Very little will change.