What are they going to do if they reach them in time?
Again, let's assume the rescuers reach them in time. What will they do? They can't open the hatch at 2.5 miles under sea. The technology does not exist to bring them up to the surface. This is, unfortunately, all for show.
Wouldn't you think there is some way to roughly estimate how deep the vessel is based on the intensity of the banging? If they are sensing the banging I highly doubt it is all the way at the ocean floor. I wonder how much buoyancy the craft has? for all we know it could have minimal positive buoyancy and could just be at the surface and barely visible (buoyant doesn't mean its floating like a boat). All the images of it launching basically show it launching from a submerged vessel.
Who do you suppose is banging in there? Pretty sure the crew is all dudes. The romance element is totally unexpected. I guess a near death experience impacts people in different ways.
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Oceangate probably have gotten around them by declaring their vessel "Experimental" and stating that it will only carry "Crew" and "Mission Specialists" not passengers.
No, if they locate them, the technology to rescue them would likely just a wrench to unbolt the hatch because it would be bobbing on the ocean surface.
Funny that the guy interviewed on NPR that suggests less than 1% chance at this time is the one that told us there are seven ways for the the craft to surface, some of which include propelling it, using a bladder, dropping sandbags, dropping the steel legs. The sandbag dropping is automatic and can happen even of the crew is incapacitated because it works by the ropes holding them dissolving after a certain number of hours (before the oxygen would run out). I think that would place the chance that it's on the surface relatively high, certainly above 1%. Maybe above 50%?
I would highly recommend that the new version of this submersible include the ability to open the hatch from the inside.
You gonna bring your hydraulic torque wrench inside that tiny little sub to do that?
I've seen articles that estimate the chance of rescue at less than 1% :(.
I would love to do something similar to this, but I wouldn't, because it's spectacularly unsafe (not to see the Titanic, I don't feel that's OK in a way, but to see sea creatures). I chose to go in a boat with a glass bottom instead. It also only cost about the same price as a meal.
I understand wanting to explore but if you have to sign a disclaimer that mentions the possibility of dying on the trip multiple times, and you sign away those rights... that to me combined with the way this machine is operated is really concerning.
But that doesn't mean I don't feel for them. Obviously they didn't want this to happen. People have criticised this making the news. It makes the news because it's unusual - yes, people die on the water every single day but when it comes to this story, it has captured the public's imagination because it is so unusual.
It has not captured the public's imagination - it's just what every media company is pushing right now. The assumption is that nobody cares about a bunch of migrants from $hithole countries drowning, but if some rich dudes go missing everyone is on the case. Just look at the amount of resources being devoted to the search... it's sick.
What are they going to do if they reach them in time?
Again, let's assume the rescuers reach them in time. What will they do? They can't open the hatch at 2.5 miles under sea. The technology does not exist to bring them up to the surface. This is, unfortunately, all for show.
The search effort isn't entirely for show. Even if they're all dead I'm sure they'd like to recover the bodies if possible.
They are probably floating somewhere at sea and need a helicopter or ship to search or something. Did they have oxygen tanks in their submarine. I'd imagine at that depth it would take an hour to swim to the surface but then they will be so far from Newfoundland that they will need help quickly. I'm not sure how long they can survive in the cold water. Also what kind of a username is Bekele Bread?
They are stuck inside that thing, there will be no swimming.
Who cares about some rich mfs that pay 250,000$ to go down to the titanic in a damn submarine controlled by an off brand playstation controller. They may be rich but they're dumb as hell
Even if they were able to locate it, the technology does not exist to rescue them. And they will likely not die from a lack of oxygen but a build-up of carbon dioxide or hypothermia. These last few days must have been truly awful for them. If I was to ever go down in a submersible (not likely) I would have a gun with me so I could end it all quickly.
Gotta wonder what is happening in these last hours with the desperation. Maybe one of them lost it and killed the others. If that thing made it to the surface it will be found someday and the experts may be able to piece together what went down. Then they could write a book and make a movie. We are literally watching the preview to that movie.
No, if they locate them, the technology to rescue them would likely just a wrench to unbolt the hatch because it would be bobbing on the ocean surface.
Funny that the guy interviewed on NPR that suggests less than 1% chance at this time is the one that told us there are seven ways for the the craft to surface, some of which include propelling it, using a bladder, dropping sandbags, dropping the steel legs. The sandbag dropping is automatic and can happen even of the crew is incapacitated because it works by the ropes holding them dissolving after a certain number of hours (before the oxygen would run out). I think that would place the chance that it's on the surface relatively high, certainly above 1%. Maybe above 50%?
I would highly recommend that the new version of this submersible include the ability to open the hatch from the inside.
Again, let's assume the rescuers reach them in time. What will they do? They can't open the hatch at 2.5 miles under sea. The technology does not exist to bring them up to the surface. This is, unfortunately, all for show.
The search effort isn't entirely for show. Even if they're all dead I'm sure they'd like to recover the bodies if possible.
It becomes a training mission. In winter, local fire departments will rescue a deer who is half submerged on broken pond ice.
I've seen articles that estimate the chance of rescue at less than 1% :(.
I would love to do something similar to this, but I wouldn't, because it's spectacularly unsafe (not to see the Titanic, I don't feel that's OK in a way, but to see sea creatures). I chose to go in a boat with a glass bottom instead. It also only cost about the same price as a meal.
I understand wanting to explore but if you have to sign a disclaimer that mentions the possibility of dying on the trip multiple times, and you sign away those rights... that to me combined with the way this machine is operated is really concerning.
But that doesn't mean I don't feel for them. Obviously they didn't want this to happen. People have criticised this making the news. It makes the news because it's unusual - yes, people die on the water every single day but when it comes to this story, it has captured the public's imagination because it is so unusual.
It has not captured the public's imagination - it's just what every media company is pushing right now. The assumption is that nobody cares about a bunch of migrants from $hithole countries drowning, but if some rich dudes go missing everyone is on the case. Just look at the amount of resources being devoted to the search... it's sick.
dude - can you for just one second just forget your radical left proclivities? It grew tiresome a year ago. Give it a rest.
Even if they were able to locate it, the technology does not exist to rescue them. And they will likely not die from a lack of oxygen but a build-up of carbon dioxide or hypothermia. These last few days must have been truly awful for them. If I was to ever go down in a submersible (not likely) I would have a gun with me so I could end it all quickly.
Gotta wonder what is happening in these last hours with the desperation. Maybe one of them lost it and killed the others. If that thing made it to the surface it will be found someday and the experts may be able to piece together what went down. Then they could write a book and make a movie. We are literally watching the preview to that movie.
You are making light of the tragic situation. Yeah, there are billionaires on board but show some respect.
