"If you've ever managed an online community, a blog, or a brand's Facebook page, you have encountered the dreaded "troll." These community members can be provocative and rude, and are known for creating posts for the sole purpose of agitating their fellow members. Trolls add inflammatory comments not because they hope to inform or convince others, but because they know they'll spark an avalanche of negativity."
"New research shows that internet trolls are, in real life, narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists."
You are on record saying that you only post on Letsrun to rile people up. You need help. Please seek help.
I hugely disagree with your post here, despite being a Jakob fan boy that of course finds some of “Armstronglivs’s” posts “irritating”, because:
1. "New research shows that internet trolls are, in real life, narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists." -this conclusion is clearly unscientific. If it had claimed “most trolls”, or “trolls seem often to be” I could have bought into some of this, but not now…
2. Sometimes acting like a seemingly troll may be very called for. Armstronglivs might have good reasons for doing so. Plus he doesn’t qualify for being a traditional troll -being annoying isn’t being a troll. You on the other hand seem to use very classic troll techniques -single out another poster and hanging over him, calling him outrageous things, and possibly hiding behind multiple unregistered handles… That doesn’t of course necessarily make you a narcissist, psychopath or sadist -you can simply be very good at turning off your empathy in some cases because you think you have a righteous cause…
3. Irritating others can be legitimate when they are too un nuanced in one direction. But both you and Armstronglivs know about the blocking function, so claims about ruining threads are weak IMO. And I think you sometimes take his words to literally -that he is here only to be a pain in the… What if he holds the time of Elliott and Snell in high regard -a time we knew for sure that mid and distance runners didn’t dope..?
4. Using some time daily on the Lrc message board isn’t in my view sad or sickly -on the contrary: Dealing with others opinions and fronting one’s own can be a good activity. And Armstronglivs’s frequent posting contributes to keep interesting threads open…
5. I don’t buy into everything Armstronglivs claims. But let me remind you about claims this poster has made or agreed with, that I at least, find very reasonable:
A) People are very driven by feelings -hoping something doesn’t make it a reality.
B) Jakob has very little basis for claiming to be distance Goat material. His best 10 k performance (Euro xc) was beating a 27.37 guy with a few seconds, and none of his 5000m wins has indicated WR shape (a guy with a pb of 13.02 getting silver behind him in OG 2024 is more typical for what he has faced than not. The stronger athletes don’t seem to have been at their best in those races…).
C) Training a huge mileage doesn’t necessarily make you a better distance runner than a mid distance guy -Walker, Ovett, Snell all comes to mind…
D) Armstronglivs acknowledges that Jakob probably can run close to 12.40.
E) He also sees Jakob as a very good 3000m runner, with his sweet spot somewhere around that distance.
F) He doesn’t think Jakob can float on his good 3k ability to a 5000m WR. -I totally agree here.
G) He thinks Jakob should have kept his big mouth shut when it comes to own future “greatness”. I agree, despite viewing the word “arrogance” somewhat differently…
H) He thinks a slightly bettering of the WR in the 1500m isn’t enough to general Goat status, and maybe not even by breaking both the 1500 and 5000m WRs. I agree. Also in his view of a WR in the 3000m as significantly less important than in champ events.
I) He is clearly irritated over some naive Ingebrigtsen posting on this forum -very understandable in my opinion. -I think Kejelcha, Gebrhiwet, Barega, Arigawi, Kiplimo get far to little attention on these boards when it comes to the Goat material question…!
Conclusion: Armstronglivs is annoying. But I at least would miss him. -We all need some irritation sometimes to not fall asleep…
You don't have to think. I stated facts. You are on record saying you only come here to rile people up. The study says that's a clear sign of a narcissist. I knew you wouldn't like to read the truth. You never do.
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
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You don't have to think. I stated facts. You are on record saying you only come here to rile people up. The study says that's a clear sign of a narcissist. I knew you wouldn't like to read the truth. You never do.
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
Not as much as you are obsessed with Jakob Ingebrigtsen or Donald Trump.
"If you've ever managed an online community, a blog, or a brand's Facebook page, you have encountered the dreaded "troll." These community members can be provocative and rude, and are known for creating posts for the sole purpose of agitating their fellow members. Trolls add inflammatory comments not because they hope to inform or convince others, but because they know they'll spark an avalanche of negativity."
"New research shows that internet trolls are, in real life, narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists."
You are on record saying that you only post on Letsrun to rile people up. You need help. Please seek help.
I hugely disagree with your post here, despite being a Jakob fan boy that of course finds some of “Armstronglivs’s” posts “irritating”, because:
1. "New research shows that internet trolls are, in real life, narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists." -this conclusion is clearly unscientific. If it had claimed “most trolls”, or “trolls seem often to be” I could have bought into some of this, but not now…
2. Sometimes acting like a seemingly troll may be very called for. Armstronglivs might have good reasons for doing so. Plus he doesn’t qualify for being a traditional troll -being annoying isn’t being a troll. You on the other hand seem to use very classic troll techniques -single out another poster and hanging over him, calling him outrageous things, and possibly hiding behind multiple unregistered handles… That doesn’t of course necessarily make you a narcissist, psychopath or sadist -you can simply be very good at turning off your empathy in some cases because you think you have a righteous cause…
3. Irritating others can be legitimate when they are too un nuanced in one direction. But both you and Armstronglivs know about the blocking function, so claims about ruining threads are weak IMO. And I think you sometimes take his words to literally -that he is here only to be a pain in the… What if he holds the time of Elliott and Snell in high regard -a time we knew for sure that mid and distance runners didn’t dope..?
4. Using some time daily on the Lrc message board isn’t in my view sad or sickly -on the contrary: Dealing with others opinions and fronting one’s own can be a good activity. And Armstronglivs’s frequent posting contributes to keep interesting threads open…
5. I don’t buy into everything Armstronglivs claims. But let me remind you about claims this poster has made or agreed with, that I at least, find very reasonable:
A) People are very driven by feelings -hoping something doesn’t make it a reality.
B) Jakob has very little basis for claiming to be distance Goat material. His best 10 k performance (Euro xc) was beating a 27.37 guy with a few seconds, and none of his 5000m wins has indicated WR shape (a guy with a pb of 13.02 getting silver behind him in OG 2024 is more typical for what he has faced than not. The stronger athletes don’t seem to have been at their best in those races…).
C) Training a huge mileage doesn’t necessarily make you a better distance runner than a mid distance guy -Walker, Ovett, Snell all comes to mind…
D) Armstronglivs acknowledges that Jakob probably can run close to 12.40.
E) He also sees Jakob as a very good 3000m runner, with his sweet spot somewhere around that distance.
F) He doesn’t think Jakob can float on his good 3k ability to a 5000m WR. -I totally agree here.
G) He thinks Jakob should have kept his big mouth shut when it comes to own future “greatness”. I agree, despite viewing the word “arrogance” somewhat differently…
H) He thinks a slightly bettering of the WR in the 1500m isn’t enough to general Goat status, and maybe not even by breaking both the 1500 and 5000m WRs. I agree. Also in his view of a WR in the 3000m as significantly less important than in champ events.
I) He is clearly irritated over some naive Ingebrigtsen posting on this forum -very understandable in my opinion. -I think Kejelcha, Gebrhiwet, Barega, Arigawi, Kiplimo get far to little attention on these boards when it comes to the Goat material question…!
Conclusion: Armstronglivs is annoying. But I at least would miss him. -We all need some irritation sometimes to not fall asleep…
You're a gentleman. I can agree to disagree with you - and we often do - but we can see each other's point of view.
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You don't have to think. I stated facts. You are on record saying you only come here to rile people up. The study says that's a clear sign of a narcissist. I knew you wouldn't like to read the truth. You never do.
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
And talking about tedious bores, you write the same thing 30, 50, 100 times a day, every day.
You don't rile anyone. Your posts don't have any content.
But it's satisfying to know that your life is so miserable and devoid of meaning that you are happy to be disliked 😊
I hugely disagree with your post here, despite being a Jakob fan boy that of course finds some of “Armstronglivs’s” posts “irritating”, because:
1. "New research shows that internet trolls are, in real life, narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists." -this conclusion is clearly unscientific. If it had claimed “most trolls”, or “trolls seem often to be” I could have bought into some of this, but not now…
2. Sometimes acting like a seemingly troll may be very called for. Armstronglivs might have good reasons for doing so. Plus he doesn’t qualify for being a traditional troll -being annoying isn’t being a troll. You on the other hand seem to use very classic troll techniques -single out another poster and hanging over him, calling him outrageous things, and possibly hiding behind multiple unregistered handles… That doesn’t of course necessarily make you a narcissist, psychopath or sadist -you can simply be very good at turning off your empathy in some cases because you think you have a righteous cause…
3. Irritating others can be legitimate when they are too un nuanced in one direction. But both you and Armstronglivs know about the blocking function, so claims about ruining threads are weak IMO. And I think you sometimes take his words to literally -that he is here only to be a pain in the… What if he holds the time of Elliott and Snell in high regard -a time we knew for sure that mid and distance runners didn’t dope..?
4. Using some time daily on the Lrc message board isn’t in my view sad or sickly -on the contrary: Dealing with others opinions and fronting one’s own can be a good activity. And Armstronglivs’s frequent posting contributes to keep interesting threads open…
5. I don’t buy into everything Armstronglivs claims. But let me remind you about claims this poster has made or agreed with, that I at least, find very reasonable:
A) People are very driven by feelings -hoping something doesn’t make it a reality.
B) Jakob has very little basis for claiming to be distance Goat material. His best 10 k performance (Euro xc) was beating a 27.37 guy with a few seconds, and none of his 5000m wins has indicated WR shape (a guy with a pb of 13.02 getting silver behind him in OG 2024 is more typical for what he has faced than not. The stronger athletes don’t seem to have been at their best in those races…).
C) Training a huge mileage doesn’t necessarily make you a better distance runner than a mid distance guy -Walker, Ovett, Snell all comes to mind…
D) Armstronglivs acknowledges that Jakob probably can run close to 12.40.
E) He also sees Jakob as a very good 3000m runner, with his sweet spot somewhere around that distance.
F) He doesn’t think Jakob can float on his good 3k ability to a 5000m WR. -I totally agree here.
G) He thinks Jakob should have kept his big mouth shut when it comes to own future “greatness”. I agree, despite viewing the word “arrogance” somewhat differently…
H) He thinks a slightly bettering of the WR in the 1500m isn’t enough to general Goat status, and maybe not even by breaking both the 1500 and 5000m WRs. I agree. Also in his view of a WR in the 3000m as significantly less important than in champ events.
I) He is clearly irritated over some naive Ingebrigtsen posting on this forum -very understandable in my opinion. -I think Kejelcha, Gebrhiwet, Barega, Arigawi, Kiplimo get far to little attention on these boards when it comes to the Goat material question…!
Conclusion: Armstronglivs is annoying. But I at least would miss him. -We all need some irritation sometimes to not fall asleep…
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
Not as much as you are obsessed with Jakob Ingebrigtsen or Donald Trump.
That must apply to everyone that posts on threads about them. But being obsessed with another anonymous poster tops everything.
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
And talking about tedious bores, you write the same thing 30, 50, 100 times a day, every day.
You don't rile anyone. Your posts don't have any content.
But it's satisfying to know that your life is so miserable and devoid of meaning that you are happy to be disliked 😊
It's so funny to make you reply. You are a slave. An obedient one.
So who are you responding to again? Always one to shoot yourself in the foot.
You are roo dumb to understand. I reply oo you for 10 minutes. You spend hours replying to everyone, writing the same things, every day. You have no life 😁
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You're a gentleman. I can agree to disagree with you - and we often do - but we can see each other's point of view.
Yes, we can see each other’s point of view. And although I disagree with quite a lot I also think some of your posts are good and nuanced.
No, I’m not a gentleman (although I sometimes choose to pretend I am) -just like you I can be really harsh. But I think it’s really interesting to direct my “harshness” against the people in my own camp (the Jakob fans), because some of them really don’t like criticism or nuances… Heck -I even plan to analyse / criticise Jakob’s “arrogance”, because despite liking a lot of his mind set I really think he might be clueless on some major parts, for some interesting reasons…
So to your “harshness” -I think you are on your worst and most unfair when you criticise “rekrunner” for only being a doping apologists. Because I think his main thing is to speculate and analyse as good as he can. And I really think he tries to do this in the manner he calls “objectively”. Well, I won’t defend him more than that in this post for two reasons: 1. I think he’s totally capable of defending himself. 2. I think a criticism of people in one’s own camp often is more productive than always defending them. So here it comes: Yes, I think you are right when you claim that posters are driven by their own feelings and hopes. And “rekrunner” has admitted that other’s claims of high prevalence of doping ruins his appreciation for the sport -giving him a motive for denying those claims more than “objectively”. (I might myself be in the same situation as he).
My point in the above is this: Guys like “rekrunner” and myself may think we are very honest and show objectively in our reasoning, because we really try. But in this we may really miss how feelings might colour our reasoning, and how we might cherry pick the science that suits us, and disregard the ones that don’t. So I think the only solution is this: Try to acknowledge that the feelings are strong, and try to be even more “objective”…
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You don't have to think. I stated facts. You are on record saying you only come here to rile people up. The study says that's a clear sign of a narcissist. I knew you wouldn't like to read the truth. You never do.
I only care to rile tedious bores like you. Most posters aren't bothered about what I say, don't care or aren't interested. But you're obviously obsessed.
You, Mr. 100 repetitive posts a day, calling someone a tedious bore? hahahaha
Not as much as you are obsessed with Jakob Ingebrigtsen or Donald Trump.
That must apply to everyone that posts on threads about them. But being obsessed with another anonymous poster tops everything.
When you post about something you must be obsessed about it?
You have to reply. You will reply. We just have to wait you waking up.
That's your life. Writing nonsense. Sleeping. Checking all the dozens of answers you got who made fun of your nonsense. Answering all of them for the next hour. Writing more nonsense...
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