Realistically I think the same separation exists. It is just that the BU event was too close in time to cross-country nationals and she was understandably physically and mentally worn down. Plus Valby is not running the 5000m because she has no qualifying time. The altitude is the unknown factor, but at sea level she would be the overwhelming favorite. (Side note: why are they having the championships at altitude again?).
The only thing running in the DMR will accomplish is maybe an AA and costing her a shot at the Bowerman.
I agree that altitude's an unknown, but I'd still place Tuohy 2--8 sec ahead of Olemomoi in the 5 at Albuquerque. The 10000m is the only remaining NCAA event in which she might need to bring her A game--meaning really work for it--to win. At the moment, I don't see her losing a collegiate race until she turns pro.
Realistically I think the same separation exists. It is just that the BU event was too close in time to cross-country nationals and she was understandably physically and mentally worn down. Plus Valby is not running the 5000m because she has no qualifying time. The altitude is the unknown factor, but at sea level she would be the overwhelming favorite. (Side note: why are they having the championships at altitude again?).
The only thing running in the DMR will accomplish is maybe an AA and costing her a shot at the Bowerman.
I agree that altitude's an unknown, but I'd still place Tuohy 2--8 sec ahead of Olemomoi in the 5 at Albuquerque. The 10000m is the only remaining NCAA event in which she might need to bring her A game--meaning really work for it--to win. At the moment, I don't see her losing a collegiate race until she turns pro.
It will certainly be interesting. I think if she hangs for 3500 and then takes off, no one can go with her and any worries of a surprise kick from behind will be null. That only requires a “fast” pace on her part for 1500. She’ll be GASSED at that high of altitude afterwards though.
Agreed, she’s not losing an INDIVIDUAL race in college now.
Tuohy needs 100m closing speed for pro races, especially the 1500m. I hope she either has it and we just haven't seen it yet or develops it. 30 second final 200m should be doable for her, right?
Despite being athletic and dare I say muscular, Touhy has never had sprint speed. Personally, I've been surprised that she has run some 31/32 200s recently and am curious what her 400/800 speed is these days.
On the lighter side we now know the workout group of Touhy, Bush, Chapman and Lewis can work on those 58s 400s together.
I would guess 800 around 2:03-2:04, 57-58 for the 400. There are some pros out there that are thought of as longer distance runners that have some surprising 800 PRs. For example, Emma Coburn has an 800 PR of 2:01 but is of course best known for steeple.
I agree that altitude's an unknown, but I'd still place Tuohy 2--8 sec ahead of Olemomoi in the 5 at Albuquerque. The 10000m is the only remaining NCAA event in which she might need to bring her A game--meaning really work for it--to win. At the moment, I don't see her losing a collegiate race until she turns pro.
With all the excitement around miles and 400/800 speed, it's often forgotten that at the core, Touhy is a distance runner. 6k xc is better than 5k etc. When the time is right, she'll do well in a track 10k. Set the metronome at 16 min 5k pace, throw in a close and you have 31:5? She's also keen for road racing, 10 milers, half's and someday a marathon. All in good time.
I'm thrilled though that NC st has focused on speed. It keeps mileage lower, minimizes injury chance, and speed is needed at longer distances anyway.
Omg. McGinnis has abby steiner arm carry but wide. It looked like Miami knocked it from her on the replay? Hard to tell. What a tough break.
Yeah, that's what I noticed after I watched the replay from the front angle (they showed several replays, but I think one can only notice directly head on); the Miami runner knocked it out of her hand, it was totally accidental, but McGinnis (duke runner) realizes it was knocked out of her hand and immediately you can tell the shock on her face as she crosses the line. Because it was knocked out of her hand, I think that's what the confusion was about - I mean, I think that's why she didn't go back and get it. I think if she dropped it herself, she would've gone back.
but she prob thought there was some kind of interference if it's an opponent's fault. It's rotten luck. that was a well-fought battle.
Looking at times, Tuohy has some significant separation on her competition in the mile and the 3k. Not as much at 5k, altitude becomes a bigger factor the longer the race and her biggest competition will be the Alabama runners (from Kenya). That may be what they are trying to decide. As for the considering DMR, would have to have Chapman 100% healthy and maybe see in a time trial what Hartman could do in a 1200.
This is a great post, by going mile/3000 a fluky reaction to altitude is removed from the table. Not only Kenyans, but Venters, Mazza-Downie an Stearns are all altitude based.
kt 5k - although the qt does not show it, one would think she is due for a ridiculous 5k. The recent 4:27/16:00 at jdl, and the acc 4:23/3:03 3:03 2:45 3k show she just has 'terminator level' fitness and confidence right now!
Mile and 3000 are only 1 hour apart at Nationals due to separate M and F competitions. That is a tough double especially as she would not want to leave mile soley to a last 400 sprint
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