You suggested that instead he might have been 1-2 miles away at the bars. Yes, I dispute that as not very likely. As we have both noted, there is not enough information available at this point. I doubt we will ever see the raw cell tower data from the multiple towers though.
When this data it tied to time stamped video of his car there won’t be much wiggle room anyway.
It is very easy in hindsight to imagine how a rational person would supposedly act. However it was 4:00 am after a night of partying, she did not know the murders had happened or that any crime was committed, the house apparently had people coming and going like a dorm, and we are talking about some college kid in Moscow, Idaho where there was probably zero crimeand the doors are unlocked. Seeing the guy probably freaked her out initially, but she then just assumed it was nothing.
The same with all these people online wondering why no one apparently screamed for help. The girl who was apparently up after a very late night probably froze with fear and a stab victim would likely go into shock immediately.
I would not mind if they find the guy hanging from a tree some morning in the near future. Good riddance.
I agree with this. Also, it was very cold, so not totally uncommon to wear a mask over face. Maybe she was really spooked, but after locking door she rationalized that she was just overreacting.
Maybe it was a surgical mask or it appeared like it was meant to function as one. That was my first thought from the description (eyes were visible).
Yes, or KN95 or similar because bushy eyebrows were described. That was my first thought. He wasn't wearing a Phantom of the Opera or mask or bank robber ski mask. A mask like a kn95 and dark clothes by themselves is not at all weird. That describes me at the grocery store the other day with my regular running jacket and pants.
I'm very confused about the roommate that saw the guy and just went back to bed. If I saw someone in my house in a mask after I was already under the impression something was wrong I would at the very least go check where he came from. I'm trying to imagine myself just ignoring that and I can't. This isn't to say I think they were involved, it is just a very odd reaction.
This has already been said but this was a frat sorority party house. Lots of people coming and going. There had probably been a lot of drinking. The girl who saw him could have been intoxicated. Is it that crazy that he was wearing a mask? Pre-Covid, sure, that would have been a red flag. With all these circumstances I don’t think it is that unusual for her not to have gone to check her room mates. It’s not like she heard screaming.
It is not a perfect scenario but based on a rough idea of these site locations, LTE bands and possible path of travel, it should be pretty easy to get a close approximation to his location on the 12 previous trips. The UE will take periodic measurements of signal strength/quality of the serving sector/band and any other sector-carrier that are present. This is done for load balancing, site handoffs, and inter-frequency handoffs. Because each frequency has different propagation characteristics, these measurement reports along with timing advance data can provide a very accurate device location (far more accurate than +/- 400m).
It is not a perfect scenario but based on a rough idea of these site locations, LTE bands and possible path of travel, it should be pretty easy to get a close approximation to his location on the 12 previous trips. The UE will take periodic measurements of signal strength/quality of the serving sector/band and any other sector-carrier that are present. This is done for load balancing, site handoffs, and inter-frequency handoffs. Because each frequency has different propagation characteristics, these measurement reports along with timing advance data can provide a very accurate device location (far more accurate than +/- 400m).
Can you explain further?
That (unsourced and unidentified) map appears to be annotated by someone following the Kohberger case, since someone attempted to circle the King Road residence in red. The map shows the King Road residence in "Cell 16" which appears to be a rather large geographic cell that extend from an undisclosed (not on map) southern line to a macrocell (probably located on Theophilus Tower) which is quite far north of King Road, and covers (1) a significant part of U Idaho campus, (2) a small portion of 6th street traversing east-west in and out of downtown Moscow, and (3) a long portion of Highway 95 running north-south as the western boundary. Am I correct?
Is "Cell 16" on that map what you believe is referred to by the "utiliz[ed] cellular resources that provide coverage to the area of 1122 King Road"?
Also, are the small green, red and brown-ish squares that populate the map microcells? There are none around King Road. The nearest ones are clustered on U Idaho campus and along Highway 95, quite far from King Road - looks like over .5 mile in each direction. If those are microcells, I can see how a phone could be located within Cell 16 with more granularity -- within a few hundred feet it would seem if a phone were on U Idaho campus. But I can't see how a phone could be said to be located on King Road like some media is reporting, or even surrounding roads like Taylor Avenue or Walenta Drive. Basically, I don't see how you get "far more accurate than +/- 400m" in the King Road area from that map, which may be why the Affidavit was vague on this point. But that said, the map is very helpful, so thanks for posting it.
And why did Kohberger go BACK to the murder house in the early morning after he had been home for several hours? Did he suddenly realize that he had left the knife sheath there and think he might be able to retreive it?
Like I speculated early on, the guy was a Ted Bundy wannabe. The template is that of a serial killer. He was apparently posting on message boards about the crime to the point where the other members accused him of being the killer. Anyway one of his alleged accounts showed a photo of a man dressed all in black with a hood and a headlamp. It was taken with a cellphone. A murder's self-portrait.
It seems he was planning the murders for weeks, was stalking his victims, and committed the murders for the thrill of it and for publicity. He then boasted about it on social media. Sooner he is put down, the better.
I had a relative who was diagnosed with several mental health issues, though eventually died from physical health issue from years of self medicating. He was known to have often lacked developed "executive" thinking with the choices he made. Look at the recent face mutilator in Portland who thought robots were out for him. I don't think he'll get the death penalty, but whatever Idaho's version is of an insane asylum is as he will be found to be guilty but not right in the head.
And why did Kohberger go BACK to the murder house in the early morning after he had been home for several hours? Did he suddenly realize that he had left the knife sheath there and think he might be able to retreive it?
It's pretty common for killers to return to the scene.
I had a relative who was diagnosed with several mental health issues, though eventually died from physical health issue from years of self medicating. He was known to have often lacked developed "executive" thinking with the choices he made. Look at the recent face mutilator in Portland who thought robots were out for him. I don't think he'll get the death penalty, but whatever Idaho's version is of an insane asylum is as he will be found to be guilty but not right in the head.
Idaho actually does not accept the insanity defense and they have the death penalty.
The map is crowdsourced from CellMapper and is likely accurate. I don't work for AT&T but have access to comparable tools such as Ookla Cell Analytics that work in a similar way and are fairly reliable with regards to cell site locations. The breadcrumbs you see on the map are crowdsourced RSRP (signal strength data) from multiple users over time.
I showed the cells to give an idea of the layout of a typical macro cell site. Most are split into 3 sectors (some 4, some 6, etc) with each covering 120degrees. Within that sector, the site will be transmitting LTE on multiple frequencies (bands). This map shows a very rudimentary plot of where the sectors and bands are covering (shown as cells) and would be much easier to understand from an AT&T engineer. They will have access to the precise details that would impact coverage footprints (antenna centerlines, azimuths, antenna type, downtilts, transmit powers, etc). The gist is that when you are moving through the cell site's footprint, your device is really seeing multiple signals (from different sectors and frequencies in addition to neighboring sites). It is constantly measuring the strength of these signals to determine which should be the primary server.
This becomes even clearer when the device is traveling across multiple sites like the affidavit shows for the possible route to and from Moscow. In this instance, he would have travelled by several sites in a predictable pattern.
Again, I can't speak specifically to AT&T but PCMD data that they provided to the police is accurate enough to say he was in the neighborhood (1-2 blocks) and even more so when they have 12 potential replicate events to compare. Here is a good doc if you are interested
I didn't intend to imply he was going to plead insanity. He won't get the death penalty (he'll get life), as to facility (isolated from the general population), found guilty (likely plea as the defense and prosecution may not want to drag this out, in exchange for life).
Like I speculated early on, the guy was a Ted Bundy wannabe. The template is that of a serial killer. He was apparently posting on message boards about the crime to the point where the other members accused him of being the killer. Anyway one of his alleged accounts showed a photo of a man dressed all in black with a hood and a headlamp. It was taken with a cellphone. A murder's self-portrait.
It seems he was planning the murders for weeks, was stalking his victims, and committed the murders for the thrill of it and for publicity. He then boasted about it on social media. Sooner he is put down, the better.
I believe what you are referring to is theories being spread around on Twitter and Reddit that Kohberger was posting as "Pappa Rodgers" and some other name, because Pappa Rodgers' speculation of what happened was allegedly so detailed and allegedly turned out to be accurate. But if you read even a little of it, that theory kind of falls apart. A lot of the stuff the Pappa Rodgers guy posted turned out to be wrong. I also haven't found any of it that wasn't speculation that tons of other people easily came up with -- it's no great thing to predict the killer went through the second floor sliding door. Also, a lot of what Pappa Rodgers posted was already public.
The theory that Kohberger was posting about his crime under some name on social media is really weak if you dig in a little. Just more social media garbage stories, now being repeated here.
About these online personas that are supposedly linked to the criminal. Isn't it likely that these were Law enforcement fishing expeditions? Seems to me that if it were the killer it would be part of the evidence revealed in the affidavit.
I didn't intend to imply he was going to plead insanity. He won't get the death penalty (he'll get life), as to facility (isolated from the general population), found guilty (likely plea as the defense and prosecution may not want to drag this out, in exchange for life).
You’re making the case that from now on, no person will ever receive the death penalty in the U.S. and that the DA has no interest in being re-elected.
The DA will drag it out as long as it takes to obtain the death penalty.
Not from what I read. There is no hard evidence, but it certainly not debunked. Certainly not by pointing to quibbling inaccuracies. And it was not just what he wrote. but the manner of it that made people suspicious and accusatory. Not the first time serial killers have talked about their own crimes and played a crude game of cat and mouse. The Zodiac killer. The guy who called into the Howard Stern show. And in that case the guy had to be manipulated into admitting his crimes, primarily by appealing to his ego.
Also his friend confirmed that he had called into a podcast. Did that "fall apart" too? And in that podcast he took a mock speculative tone and tried to throw people off. So he called into a podcast but no way he would post on a message board? LOL.
You seem to think there is some reasonable doubt in this case. Fascinating. There is always one.
I didn't intend to imply he was going to plead insanity. He won't get the death penalty (he'll get life), as to facility (isolated from the general population), found guilty (likely plea as the defense and prosecution may not want to drag this out, in exchange for life).
You’re making the case that from now on, no person will ever receive the death penalty in the U.S. and that the DA has no interest in being re-elected.
The DA will drag it out as long as it takes to obtain the death penalty.
NO. I said in THIS situation, please ready carefully. The defense has an obligation on behalf of the client for the best outcome, which life is likely better unless the client doesn't care one way or the other. The DA is obliged to get "justice" which they may see as the dp OR the "can never do this again" and closure for the community and loved ones. It may be in the DA's interest to NOT for weeks and months talk about, show gruesome photos for the families to keep reliving, possible media circus. As for the DA, I do not know what their career aspirations are. My take is a guilty plea, no death penalty. We can bump this thread (unless it get deleted) in 6 months and see whats up then.
Not from what I read. There is no hard evidence, but it certainly not debunked.
Then read more. Read what Pappa Rodgers wrote (there are people posting screenshots of it on Twitter 24/7) and make yourself a list of (1) things he posted that we now know are wrong, (2) things he posted that don't require any specialized, direct or personal knowledge (e.g., the killer went through sliding door on level 2), and (3) things he posted that were already publicly known when he posted them. Then re-evaluate your belief that Pappa Rodgers was Kohberger, rather than just another person speculating on the internet.
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Certainly not by pointing to quibbling inaccuracies.
Wouldn't "quibbling inaccuracies" be the very things that cast doubt on your theory? If Pappa Rodgers is posting inaccurate things about what he allegedly did, wouldn't that be strong evidence that maybe he isn't Kohberger?
astro wrote:
And it was not just what he wrote. but the manner of it that made people suspicious and accusatory.
Uh huh. His posting manner. It's always a dead give-away, up there with that killer look in his eyes.
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Also his friend confirmed that he had called into a podcast. Did that "fall apart" too?
No idea what you are talking about. What friend? What podcast? Confirmed what and how to who? If whatever you are saying is true, let's hope this friend of Kohberger called the cops and told them whatever you think he confirmed.
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And in that podcast he took a mock speculative tone and tried to throw people off. So he called into a podcast but no way he would post on a message board? LOL.
WTF? I didn't say Kohberger can't call into podcast or post on the internet. I said this theory that Kohberger was posting as Pappa Rodgers on the internet describing his crimes is weak. Really weak. Go through the steps I outlined for you above, and you should be able to see that.
astro wrote:
You seem to think there is some reasonable doubt in this case. Fascinating. There is always one.
Again, WTF? Where do you get that opinion of me from a post disputing your Pappa Rodgers theory? I've read the Affidavit carefully and have no doubt Kohberger is the killer. I think that's clear from what I've posted previously.
You seem particularly susceptible to believing speculation and unsupported theories that you read on social media. Fascinating. There are always many.
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