Official 2021 Nuttycombe Invite Discussion Thread: BYU vs NC State (W), Iowa State vs Oregon vs Stanford (M)

astro wrote:

I think they found Chimel's track event in the 10000.

Nationals is going to come down to NC State vs. BYU. If they are healthy and esp. if they can get Starliper involved, then NC Stare is the favorite imo even against the Soccer Mom Express. But that's thething. It all comes down to one race.

the moment astro stops quacking about starliper (whos been mia for 2 years due to unending injuries) is when tuohy wins a steeple race

5milelongrun wrote:

With Steelman not running doesn’t seem too surprising.

What’s shocking to me is how much worse some teams have gotten since March. Stanford 3rd at nationals and only 16th today. Michigan State 4th to 12th, Boise State 9th to 24th, etc.

That's because this season is an actual real xc season and March 2021 was a complete clown show of a season.

Now it's actually Fall and all teams are actually competing, it's not surprising to see Boise State Community College fall while CU steps back into there usual slot.

The incessant Tuohy bashing gets old. While everyone bashes her, she just does her thing. She's the prototypical power runner. If the NCAA Championship meet were to run on a fall day at Terre Haute or elsewhere in the Midwest were there might be a bit of slop, a win by her would not at all be surprising. She's a great runner and a great kid. Meanwhile, back to the men, what is up with Indiana? This team is not one of the teams of the Bob Kennedy years and is a far way even resembling those teams. Jha looks to be the best on the team and he probably has more in the tank. Veatch should be there with him but isn't. Stidham is better than he showed in this meet. High school wunderkind Horter never has lived up to the hype. I'm still waiting for a breakthrough from him. What's up in Bloomington? Perhaps Helmer is too far behind the times.

Iron Bars wrote:

Random question: I saw Theo Quax mentioned. Is he related to the legendary (late) kiwi Dick Quax?

Theo Quax is Dick Quax's son.

Theres a great interview on runnerspace of steelman and hays talking about katelyn tuohy being healthy and happy

Both are seniors and said that katelyn tuohy inspires them, kt works extremely hard

https://notre-dame-xc-invitational.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=4298&do=videos&video_id=310888

Yeah but a bunch of teams (such as Boise State and CU) skipped indoor to focus on cross country and you’d expect more changes in a normal year rather than when there’s only outdoor and summer breaking up the seasons. Anyone know what’s going on with these teams? I get that in the case of Stanford Donaghu graduated and a couple are MIA but what about the other under performers.

FastTuohy wrote:

For Stanford, Donaghu graduates, Heymach still mia, (Lawson too)

Heymach is on the start list for today's Santa Clara Invite. Maybe she missed the plane to Wisconsin.

Tuohy chmiel and Hays were interviewed.... yesterday...

Iron Bars wrote:

Random question: I saw Theo Quax mentioned. Is he related to the legendary (late) kiwi Dick Quax?

Yes.

someone posted some video on YT of the women's race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgSVI56VfY

Don B. wrote:

Iron Bars wrote:

Random question: I saw Theo Quax mentioned. Is he related to the legendary (late) kiwi Dick Quax?

Yes.

Dick claims to be his father. We haven't ween DNA test results yet.

Ezrun wrote:

Tuohy chmiel and Hays were interviewed.... yesterday...

saw that too, so happy to see tuohy happy ~

semihaze wrote:

Ezrun wrote:

Tuohy chmiel and Hays were interviewed.... yesterday...

saw that too, so happy to see tuohy happy ~

Yeah she said she gets a lot of inspiration from her teammates and the let's run message board. I think she might do a live chat After the season

NC State depth even crazier! Nevada Moreno runs in a Total solo effort 20:23. No one around her or pushing her!!!! I know that you really can’t compare times in CC to other courses, but the fact that she was healthy enough to race and ran a time that would have placed her as their #3 at Nuttycomb. Looks like Coach Henes may have an ace in the hole that everyone is overlooking. A healthy and in shape Moreno is scary good!!!! Still 5 weeks for her to get in top form!

https://gopack.com/news/2021/10/15/cross-country-pack-concludes-regular-season-at-ecu-pirate-invitational.aspx

DouchBagsAnnonymous wrote:

5milelongrun wrote:

With Steelman not running doesn’t seem too surprising.

What’s shocking to me is how much worse some teams have gotten since March. Stanford 3rd at nationals and only 16th today. Michigan State 4th to 12th, Boise State 9th to 24th, etc.

That's because this season is an actual real xc season and March 2021 was a complete clown show of a season.

Now it's actually Fall and all teams are actually competing, it's not surprising to see Boise State Community College fall while CU steps back into there usual slot.

Your post is really, really stupid. The spring season counts the same as the others.

Yes it counts but some teams did not compete and some individuals focused on track.

Not wrote:

Yes it counts but some teams did not compete and some individuals focused on track.

And some such as CO and NM ladies did not focus on track yet still underperformed in XC it seems. Perhaps training was not as organized back then. Compared to March they have improved tremendously.

7empest wrote:

Jake Scrum wrote:

From what I understand NC State was using this race as a trial of sorts to see who would suit up in the 4-7 spots going into championship season. Steelman and Clairmonte held out and Shaw is coming back from a minor thing. Starliper will not race this XC season.

Starliper is not out of the picture! You got some bad sources or your guessing. She is not out for the season

I see Starliper made the list of 14 NC State athletes declared for NCAA regionals and nationals. Can't see how she makes the top 7 but I guess we find out.

I think we may see her at Nationals but not run at regionals