"The CDC on Tuesday released an update on the HEROES cohort study among healthcare workers that showed a significant drop in vaccine effectiveness among vaccinated frontline workers in eight states who became infected with the coronavirus."
"Vaccine efficacy during the period of the study when Delta was predominant fell to 66% from 91% prior to the arrival of the Delta variant, according to the report.
DanM wrote:
"The CDC on Tuesday released an update on the HEROES cohort study among healthcare workers that showed a significant drop in vaccine effectiveness among vaccinated frontline workers in eight states who became infected with the coronavirus."
"Vaccine efficacy during the period of the study when Delta was predominant fell to 66% from 91% prior to the arrival of the Delta variant, according to the
Delta variant is more transmissible. Woah. Big news Dan. Thanks.
Harambe wrote:
DanM wrote:
"The CDC on Tuesday released an update on the HEROES cohort study among healthcare workers that showed a significant drop in vaccine effectiveness among vaccinated frontline workers in eight states who became infected with the coronavirus."
"Vaccine efficacy during the period of the study when Delta was predominant fell to 66% from 91% prior to the arrival of the Delta variant, according to the
Delta variant is more transmissible. Woah. Big news Dan. Thanks.
How many shots over what period of time ?
5 shots in 24 months ? 7 shots in 36 months ? 10 shots in 48 months ?
Enlighten us, oh great sage ! Impart your wisdom upon the masses !
DanM wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Delta variant is more transmissible. Woah. Big news Dan. Thanks.
How many shots over what period of time ?
5 shots in 24 months ? 7 shots in 36 months ? 10 shots in 48 months ?
Enlighten us, oh great sage ! Impart your wisdom upon the masses !
^… exactly! How many shots; over what period of time .., It’s a cold virus, some people will pass , .. less than 1/5 of 1 single percent. Molehill not a Mount Everest.
Jzs wrote:
DanM wrote:
How many shots over what period of time ?
5 shots in 24 months ? 7 shots in 36 months ? 10 shots in 48 months ?
Enlighten us, oh great sage ! Impart your wisdom upon the masses !
^… exactly! How many shots; over what period of time .., It’s a cold virus, some people will pass , .. less than 1/5 of 1 single percent. Molehill not a Mount Everest.
1) 650k excess deaths is the most for any event in US history. It’s a bit shameful to downplay the IFR considering you are comparing to the common cold which has an IFR maybe 3 or 4 orders of magnitude lower. Learn some math.
2) I’ve talked about boosters. There’s no clear need for boosters for healthy folk. If you’re immunocompromised of very vulnerable maybe we consider the but protection against severe disease remains strong!
Regardless, the booster crying is lame. It’s a new vaccine. The dosing amount and spacing was chosen by experts but nobody knew the trajectory of the virus nor subsequent variants. Plenty of vaccines require more than 2 boosters and/or longer spacing. If we learn that 3 boosters is necessary. That’s valuable knowledge! You are basically holding scientists accountable for not predicting the future. For dudes who can’t seem to master 4 function arithmetic that’s a bit rich.
As usual, you all are gleeful about the prospect of vaccines failing (they aren’t) despite knowing that it would mean another tranche of dead Americans greater than all US military deaths combined. Chilling.
Harambe wrote:
Jzs wrote:
^… exactly! How many shots; over what period of time .., It’s a cold virus, some people will pass , .. less than 1/5 of 1 single percent. Molehill not a Mount Everest.
1) 650k excess deaths is the most for any event in US history. It’s a bit shameful to downplay the IFR considering you are comparing to the common cold which has an IFR maybe 3 or 4 orders of magnitude lower. Learn some math.
2) I’ve talked about boosters. There’s no clear need for boosters for healthy folk. If you’re immunocompromised of very vulnerable maybe we consider the but protection against severe disease remains strong!
Regardless, the booster crying is lame. It’s a new vaccine. The dosing amount and spacing was chosen by experts but nobody knew the trajectory of the virus nor subsequent variants. Plenty of vaccines require more than 2 boosters and/or longer spacing. If we learn that 3 boosters is necessary. That’s valuable knowledge! You are basically holding scientists accountable for not predicting the future. For dudes who can’t seem to master 4 function arithmetic that’s a bit rich.
As usual, you all are gleeful about the prospect of vaccines failing (they aren’t) despite knowing that it would mean another tranche of dead Americans greater than all US military deaths combined. Chilling.
What is chilling is the lack of humanity and compassion you have shown in the last year and a half.
I’m never going to take the fake FDA and Trump Certified Experimental Vaccine, if I get COVID my fate rests in the Hands of the Lord and the totally safe and effective horse dewormer I can buy down at the feed store.
If you are not vaxxed you have a 84.3459% chance of dying. If you are vaxxed you have a 99.99999999998% chance of not dying
FOLLOW THE SCIENCE
GET VAXXED
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Harambe wrote:
1) 650k excess deaths is the most for any event in US history. It’s a bit shameful to downplay the IFR considering you are comparing to the common cold which has an IFR maybe 3 or 4 orders of magnitude lower. Learn some math.
2) I’ve talked about boosters. There’s no clear need for boosters for healthy folk. If you’re immunocompromised of very vulnerable maybe we consider the but protection against severe disease remains strong!
Regardless, the booster crying is lame. It’s a new vaccine. The dosing amount and spacing was chosen by experts but nobody knew the trajectory of the virus nor subsequent variants. Plenty of vaccines require more than 2 boosters and/or longer spacing. If we learn that 3 boosters is necessary. That’s valuable knowledge! You are basically holding scientists accountable for not predicting the future. For dudes who can’t seem to master 4 function arithmetic that’s a bit rich.
As usual, you all are gleeful about the prospect of vaccines failing (they aren’t) despite knowing that it would mean another tranche of dead Americans greater than all US military deaths combined. Chilling.
What is chilling is the lack of humanity and compassion you have shown in the last year and a half.
Another useful contribution to the discussion from LRC’s genius-in-residence.
What are you so upset about? Being wrong? Surely that’s a normal feeling for you now.
The Unkle wrote:
https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/24/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-rise-3098-last-week-a-daily-average-of-443-fully-vaccinated-people/?fbclid=IwAR2L_M5J44IJv2jku7-0MtLNuEdumjj1sx9ZjFL85QaxlmqvPH9re1bL4_c
"Those who are unvaccinated are at a much higher risk for a severe case and hospitalization.
There have been 571 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts, which is 0.01% of those who are fully vaxxed."
I thought it was common knowledge that the vaccine doesn't prevent someone from getting Covid, but does decrease the odds of getting severely sick from Covid. Your link seems to support that idea.
The Grim Reaper wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/24/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-rise-3098-last-week-a-daily-average-of-443-fully-vaccinated-people/?fbclid=IwAR2L_M5J44IJv2jku7-0MtLNuEdumjj1sx9ZjFL85QaxlmqvPH9re1bL4_c"Those who are unvaccinated are at a much higher risk for a severe case and hospitalization.
There have been 571 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts, which is 0.01% of those who are fully vaxxed."
I thought it was common knowledge that the vaccine doesn't prevent someone from getting Covid, but does decrease the odds of getting severely sick from Covid. Your link seems to support that idea.
Not "common knowledge" but the latest version of the establishment narrative.
Initially we were told vaccines would prevent you from getting Covid.
And you cannot follow the trends. The vaccinated share of the new Covid cases is rising every week.
The Unkle wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
"Those who are unvaccinated are at a much higher risk for a severe case and hospitalization.
There have been 571 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts, which is 0.01% of those who are fully vaxxed."
I thought it was common knowledge that the vaccine doesn't prevent someone from getting Covid, but does decrease the odds of getting severely sick from Covid. Your link seems to support that idea.
Not "common knowledge" but the latest version of the establishment narrative.
Initially we were told vaccines would prevent you from getting Covid.
And you cannot follow the trends. The vaccinated share of the new Covid cases is rising every week.
The situation has reached a point where the dissipating effectiveness of the so called vaccines can no longer be concealed. Bringing the vaccinated Covid patients into a hospital under observation status to distort the true hospitalization numbers is a trick that can't be used much longer. The Massachusetts ratio is now officially at 71% unvaxxed and 29% vaxxed. What happened to those "99% unvaccinated" stories ?
Who knows what the next deception will be.
Science is the way wrote:
If you are not vaxxed you have a 84.3459% chance of dying. If you are vaxxed you have a 99.99999999998% chance of not dying
FOLLOW THE SCIENCE
GET VAXXED
Nice made up numbers, fearmonger.
2600 bro wrote:
ImpaIa31 wrote:
What is chilling is the lack of humanity and compassion you have shown in the last year and a half.
Another useful contribution to the discussion from LRC’s genius-in-residence.
What are you so upset about? Being wrong? Surely that’s a normal feeling for you now.
You sound upset.
You could start your therapy by pointing out where I am wrong.
I will wait. And wait, and wait, and wait...
ImpaIa31 wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Another useful contribution to the discussion from LRC’s genius-in-residence.
What are you so upset about? Being wrong? Surely that’s a normal feeling for you now.
You sound upset.
You could start your therapy by pointing out where I am wrong.
I will wait. And wait, and wait, and wait...
Well you never really say anything….
But Harambe has literally saved lives by convincing LRC tough-guys to get the vaccine.
You’ve just fearmongered and whined!
At least you’re very easy to trigger :)
Rip van Winkle wrote:
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106932532-1629828153456-image.jpg?v=1629828159&w=1910
But vaccines don’t work! The numbers are made up! “With COVID”? ADE? Blood clots!!
Waaaahhhhhhh :)
All these repeated attempts to discredit the effectiveness of the vaccine are being refuted by basic (or slightly more advanced) arithmetic.
Have the deniers read the oft reposted piece showing how even with 60% of hospitalized patients in Israel vaccinated... efficacy against severe disease is OVER 90%?
No, they haven't. They have no desire to learn. Just hope their dogma is correct. It's not.
2600 bro wrote:
ImpaIa31 wrote:
You sound upset.
You could start your therapy by pointing out where I am wrong.
I will wait. And wait, and wait, and wait...
Well you never really say anything….
But Harambe has literally saved lives by convincing LRC tough-guys to get the vaccine.
You’ve just fearmongered and whined!
At least you’re very easy to trigger :)
You/Harambe don't know what "literally" means.
You/Harambe have caused, directly and/or indirectly, to the death of many people.
I have never fearmongered, Mr fake News. Care to show where I have fearmongered?
1 example. Just 1.
You can't. You are a dishonest little turd.
Fake news is your forte.
At least I don't spend more than 12 hours a day on Letsrun fearmongering, insulting others, causing death and suffering through my actions.
And at least I am a person with principles, who respects other people, not a despicable "murderer" like you :)
