Rebbes will harvest and sell your organs. Look it up.
Rebbes will harvest and sell your organs. Look it up.
Death is an illusion. You simply have your consciousness transferred into another being that you have no decision in the matter.
The hard truth about life is that we are the product of Intelligent Design. There are people who will always be skeptics, unbelievers. The manifestation of the entity that some call God, some Krishna, etc, etc is actually one in the same for everyone who feels the manifestation. Cultures just have given different names to the same being.
There is no afterlife in the sense that people think of. Your family, etc, everyone that died...they are just bodies filled with a consciousness that will one day be transferred to something else.
However, there is one important thing to note. If you loved someone in this current existence, when consciousness is transferred after your death, kindred spirits will still love each other. If the consciousness was transferred to a dolphin for example, you'll find that the particular dolphin is friendly towards you and you towards it. You sense it.
Nothing. You're dead.
You don't turn into someone else, otherwise who is transferring into growing populations?
Y'all are morons.
Sham 69 wrote:
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Trust the man who death couldn't stop, and go by what he says.
why go so North wrote:
Nothing. You're dead.
You don't turn into someone else, otherwise who is transferring into growing populations?
Y'all are morons.
You do know that the pool of dead people from whom consciousness has departed is larger than the pool of people alive today...?
why go so North wrote:
Nothing. You're dead.
You don't turn into someone else, otherwise who is transferring into growing populations?
Y'all are morons.
You think the planet earth of this dimension is the only place within infinite creation that contains lifeforms? That's cute grasshopper.
fisky wrote:
Interesting question. I believe in reincarnation, but it's not the Hindu version.
I've read dozens of books on the afterlife. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name of the book I read that made everything make sense. It was probably published in the 1990s or earlier. Anyway, here's my take.
Everyone is a soul that is temporarily in human form. When we die, we go through a process that has been described over and over in near-death experiences. We float above our bodies briefly trying to figure out what's going on. We are drawn to a light... something like a tunnel. We are surrounded by love. We are eventually met by loved ones who have passed before... parents, grandparents, and for Christians, some religious figure. After a joyful reunion, the soul moves on to an "accounting" where the soul experiences every good thing the soul did in human form. The soul also experiences every bad thing they did, the hurt they caused that person, and the hurt of others hurt as a result. This sounds horrific, but the soul has loving support to get through this.
The soul then leaves and travels to its soulmate group, a group of 12 or so souls of similar maturity and there is another joyful reunion. The other souls want to know what you did, what you learned, what mistakes you made. It's a nonjudgmental learning experience.
Time does not exist as we know it in the afterlife, but at some point, the soul chooses to be reborn. The soul chooses its parents, its gender in the new life, and a life path. However, once reborn, the human has full control over whether to follow the life path. For this reason, life paths sometimes split and have the opportunity of coming back together again. We all have heard about or even experienced these "coincidences" For example, when high school sweethearts go in different paths only to be brought back together years later a thousand miles away through a "coincidence."
The purpose of human life for the soul is growth. In human form, the soul experiences emotions that don't exist on the spiritual plane. With each reincarnation, the soul grows and eventually, we have old souls... Mother Theresa, Billy Graham... souls that are enlightened but not there yet... MLK, Jr... and everyone else, including new souls who are overwhelmed by the delights and temptations of physical form. These souls become criminals or hurt other people. They will learn from this in the afterlife and sometimes choose to be reborn as a victim. It's not a punishment. The soul chooses that path to experience the feelings, knowing that they will grow both as human and soul from the experience. With each rebirth, the soul moves closer to... something that can't be described... a Creator, a universal consciousness.
Sometimes, souls choose a lifepath... like a child dying in an accident... to help the parents learn something important in their personal growth. Since we have free will, the parents can fall apart or they can search for meaning in the tragedy and learn from it.
Some scholars believe that reincarnation was in the original teachings of Jesus, but reincarnation was omitted because primitive people might consider it a "do over" and a license to do whatever they wanted to do. This is also why, in my opinion, the concept of karma exists in the Hindu religion... again, because primitive people could easily understand, "Do bad in this lifetime and you'll be punished in the next!"
If anyone is aware of the name of the book that describes this, I would LOVE to know it. Bits and pieces exist in many afterlife books, but not the complete concept as I describe it here.
Thank you for that excellent and thought provoking explanation. (It would be crime to delete this thread)
Many will read your post and say it's pretty far fetched and they are right. I have no idea if it's right or wrong but you explained it in a truly beautiful manner.
But here is the important point, to believe in this or even God is pretty far fetched but to not believe in God and to examine everything from the birth of the universe and the start of life resulting in our existence also requires you to believe in some pretty far fetched stuff.
I have read about about things such as the four major forces, weak and strong nuclear, gravity and electromagnetic that had to be balanced perfectly at the birth of the universe for there to exist atoms and molecules and planets and eventually life. There is no reason they had to be balanced perfectly but they were. What had to occur for life to start (formation of DNA double helix with RNA to give detailed instructions on a molecular level) is also "far fetched".
This I do know, we at not existing due to some unfathomable random combination of forces. There is a purpose behind all these extraordinary occurrences resulting in us.
This didn't occur for us to end at death. We are greater than our physical bodies. The energy of our thoughts, feelings, emotions and memories does not magically do disappear at death.
truther wrote:
This I do
knowbelieve, we [are] not existing due to some unfathomable random combination of forces. There is a purpose behind all these extraordinary occurrences resulting in us.This didn't occur for us to end at death. We are greater than our physical bodies. The energy of our thoughts, feelings, emotions and memories does not magically do disappear at death.
FTFY. Belief, even belief with certainty, is not knowledge; it's belief.
To quote "Ana" from earlier in the thread, "something like a quarter of Americans believe the sun revolves around Earth, rather than vice versa . . ., and no doubt a solid fraction of those believe it with certainty ("I don't just believe it, I *know* it!"); but they're still wrong." [Emphasis mine.]
You may be entirely sincere/certain when you say "[t]he energy of our thoughts, feelings, emotions and memories does not magically [ ] disappear at death,"--but there's no reason to think that's actually true. (I'll grant that there could be more than one motive to wish it were true; but there is no reason to think it's true.) It's unreasonable to think anything other than that when you're dead, you're done.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Sham 69 wrote:
I think this too. You reincarnate as your offspring. If you don't have offspring, you go to heaven or hell.
Well if you really want to know what happens after you die...there's a highway near your house...go stand in traffic and find out.
Nobody who wants to live is willing to take that risk, sir
We dont know. We can only speculate, wish, imagine. We have nothing to indicate that anything lies beyond, that our "consciousness" is even more than neurons interacting, we made up the idea of soul and god and heaven. But its all right! All is well. Be good to one another as if this is all there is and thats enough!
27.johnwilliams wrote:
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Huh? What was your question?
Pass it wrote:
You wake up from a really deep nap in kindergarten
Or preschool
Some of us know 100 % there is a 'life' after your present life.It's really a very good comfort to know that.Just try to do the best of the life you have now. Love, friendship and humor are the guiding stars to follow.
real_kellen_olmstead_two wrote:
Death is an illusion. You simply have your consciousness transferred into another being that you have no decision in the matter.
The hard truth about life is that we are the product of Intelligent Design. There are people who will always be skeptics, unbelievers. The manifestation of the entity that some call God, some Krishna, etc, etc is actually one and the same for everyone who feels the manifestation. Cultures just have given different names to the same being.
Who makes the new souls? The population is growing. It can’t just be recycled souls.
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fahrenheit452 wrote:
It gets quiet and dark.
DIM
"What Happens After DEATH?"
Lots. It just doesn't include you.
Because you're, like, dead.
Organ theft in NJ and FL wrote:
Rebbes will harvest and sell your organs. Look it up.
I did look it up. Creepy.