Jeff Wigand wrote:
Then it came to Solicitor General Robert Bork who, in the absence of the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General, was acting head of the Department of Justice and Bork complied with Nixon and fired Cox.
And Bork is basis for the term "getting Borked". And guess who coined that phrase? Conservative talk show hosts; primarily Rush Limbaugh.
Borked: to attack (a candidate or public figure) systematically, especially in the media.
A REAL Man wrote:
The_Doctor wrote:
A quick dose of reality for the sheep. You guys are setting yourselves up for the biggest Flagpole since THE Flagpole that started it all, the Great Flagpole of 2016.
Cracks in the colllluuuusssion narrative are getting bigger and bigger. Dems are desperate to keep it going for as long as possible . . .
Here is the one simple question that would inject some reality into your system if you had the integrity to handle the truth:
Why is Trump so desperate to end Mueller's investigation? Why not cooperate fully and get on with "governing"?
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OK, that was two questions. But you get full credit for understanding the implications of either one.
I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if you really are that dense.
There's literally no reason to have an investigation if it's producing no results related to the original objective ("collusion").
The investigation itself was started to delegitimize a massive defeat of the establishment candidate. Every day that it continues, it feeds a narrative that is not helpful to the president's objectives or re-election.
If the investigation were to end and be acknowledged by Mueller as "no evidence of collusion was found" it would be a YUUUUGE win for the president, and would almost surely result in his re-election.
.....and that's why YOU are acting disingenuous..... YOU need it to continue. (You can admit it, nothing wrong with playing politics.)
L L wrote:
You know, Trump and his supporters are the only ones who keep throwing around the word "collusion".
The rest of us want to see where the investigation leads.
We are concerned that it seems like Trump instructed Flynn to discuss sanctions relief with Russia before Trump was sworn in.
We are concerned that Trump allowed deadlines to pass for a long time before allowing imposed sanctions to take place.
We are concerned that Trump fired Comey for pursuing any investigation into Russian interference.
We are concerned that Trump worked closely with Manafort and Gates on the campaign who have been indicted for improper relations with the Russians.
We would like to follow the money and see if the Trump organization has been involved in any major foreign money laundering operation.
Trump could be involved in money laundering, tax fraud and obstruction of justice.
It ain't all about collusion or conspiring with a foreign entity, though that may be the case as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Wait, wait- are you saying you don't think there was "colllllluuuussssion" now?! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
You know there's pages and pages and pages of you Libs frothing at the mouth predicting he was going down because of collusion, right? Now, because it's becoming pretty clear that it wasn't the case, you want us to believe that you just wanted a comprehensive, open-ended, "we'll find out the accusation later" investigation?
Grow a pair and admit you were wrong. Then take a little break from LRC.
The real deal holyfield wrote:
A REAL Man wrote:
Here is the one simple question that would inject some reality into your system if you had the integrity to handle the truth:
Why is Trump so desperate to end Mueller's investigation? Why not cooperate fully and get on with "governing"?
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OK, that was two questions. But you get full credit for understanding the implications of either one.
I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if you really are that dense.
There's literally no reason to have an investigation if it's producing no results related to the original objective ("collusion").
The investigation itself was started to delegitimize a massive defeat of the establishment candidate. Every day that it continues, it feeds a narrative that is not helpful to the president's objectives or re-election.
If the investigation were to end and be acknowledged by Mueller as "no evidence of collusion was found" it would be a YUUUUGE win for the president, and would almost surely result in his re-election.
.....and that's why YOU are acting disingenuous..... YOU need it to continue. (You can admit it, nothing wrong with playing politics.)
Hey, Lying Gary! Good to see you again.
I can understand why you are hiding your face after being called out for posting this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obamas-50-lies/That really was awesome.
So tell me, Lying Gary, how long will you being hiding behind your little friends? How long before we can expect to see the famous 'Lying Gary' handle again?
http://f7tsu8.wikidot.com/wiki:todd-nelsonRepublican Sen. Lindsey Graham: If Trump Fires Mueller it Would Mark Beginning of the End of His Presidency.
Lindsey Graham wrote:
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham: If Trump Fires Mueller it Would Mark Beginning of the End of His Presidency.
Do you really think that Lindsey Graham has the balls to help end Trump's presidency?
Donald Jr decided to dress up as a scary monster for Halloween--his father.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba7WNxZDPe4/?hl=en&taken-by=donaldjtrumpjr
L L wrote:
If Trump guilty of any serious crimes that Mueller has evidence of, then Trump should fire Mueller, to slow that process down.
And that is the only reason that Trump should fire Mueller.
If Trump is an innocent man, then he should let Mueller continue the investigation so we can learn how to prevent the Russian interference that has been proven to happen.
This raises an ethical concern similar to what people said about the Patriot Act back in 2002 (or whenever it was signed into law first) : if you're innocent, then you have nothing to hide and shouldn't worry.
Not disagreeing with you, but you should enforce the premise with something like "Every intelligence agency in America (and our major allies) agree that something is suspicious so an investigation seems prudent." (The rational among us are, of course, already well aware of this fact.
Just wanted to point it out given the amount of dissenters taking the side of "this investigation is baseless and unlawful!!!"
The real deal holyfield wrote:
A REAL Man wrote:
Here is the one simple question that would inject some reality into your system if you had the integrity to handle the truth:
Why is Trump so desperate to end Mueller's investigation? Why not cooperate fully and get on with "governing"?
///
OK, that was two questions. But you get full credit for understanding the implications of either one.
I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if you really are that dense.
There's literally no reason to have an investigation if it's producing no results related to the original objective ("collusion").
The investigation itself was started to delegitimize a massive defeat of the establishment candidate. Every day that it continues, it feeds a narrative that is not helpful to the president's objectives or re-election.
If the investigation were to end and be acknowledged by Mueller as "no evidence of collusion was found" it would be a YUUUUGE win for the president, and would almost surely result in his re-election.
.....and that's why YOU are acting disingenuous..... YOU need it to continue. (You can admit it, nothing wrong with playing politics.)
Here you go, Lying Gary:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-trey-gowdy-trump-apos-174201020.htmlIs Trey Gowdy also "being disingenuous"? Or perhaps he is part of the DEEP STATE. LOL
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Poor Lying Gary. The walls are closing in.
The real deal holyfield wrote:
You know there's pages and pages and pages of you Libs frothing at the mouth predicting he was going down because of collusion, right? Now, because it's becoming pretty clear that it wasn't the case, you want us to believe that you just wanted a comprehensive, open-ended, "we'll find out the accusation later" investigation?
The investigation was not started over accusations of collusion.
It started as an investigation of Russian interference in the US election.
There have already been several indictments related to Russian interference though this investigation.
It is not an open ended, let's look to see if we can find bad stuff on Trump investigation.
Racket wrote:
Just wanted to point it out given the amount of dissenters taking the side of "this investigation is baseless and unlawful!!!"
Most of the dissenters are the same people posting under different names. The hardcore name changers are: DiscoGary, Hardloper and jamin.
L L wrote:
You know, Trump and his supporters are the only ones who keep throwing around the word "collusion".
The rest of us want to see where the investigation leads.
We are concerned that it seems like Trump instructed Flynn to discuss sanctions relief with Russia before Trump was sworn in.
We are concerned that Trump allowed deadlines to pass for a long time before allowing imposed sanctions to take place.
We are concerned that Trump fired Comey for pursuing any investigation into Russian interference.
We are concerned that Trump worked closely with Manafort and Gates on the campaign who have been indicted for improper relations with the Russians.
We would like to follow the money and see if the Trump organization has been involved in any major foreign money laundering operation.
Trump could be involved in money laundering, tax fraud and obstruction of justice.
It ain't all about collusion or conspiring with a foreign entity, though that may be the case as well.
CORRECT!
I couldn't care less if Mueller finds that Trump colluded or not. Obstruction of Justice is a BIG deal. Money laundering, especially if it has anything to do with Russia is a BIG deal. We need to know why Trump attacks everyone and their brother, including people in his own party and people who work directly for him, but he won't say sh!t about Putin. Why? We do NOT need a President who is beholden to a foreign dictator for any reason. It is clear he is a national security risk, and we want to find out WHY.
Trump is clearly desperate and guilty of something other than just screwing porn stars and Playmates.
We want to know WHY, and we will...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
its real, real bad dude wrote:
its_baddude wrote:
Lets start a factual post here.
Libs
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We need to continue to investigate. There might me something somewhere that proves that Trump is colluding or doing something illegal. We don't know if he isn't guilty until we turn every rock on earth.
Leaks
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Obama government leaked Presidential conversations to the press.
Obama government spied on Trump officials with a false pretext.
Comey
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Claims he never authorized anyone to leak. Contradicted by Mccabe.
Mccabe goes down
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Mccabe authorized leaks to Wall Street Journal about the Hillary investigation.
Mccabe lied about the leaking information.
Office of Professional Responsibility recommended his firing.
Waiting for IG report.
Lisa Page, Peter Strzok
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Conspiracy to undermine Trump. Plenty of texts to support that.
Fired from Mullers team.
Had relationship with FISA judge.
Judge removed from
Hillary and DNC
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Hard to know where Hillary starts and DNC ends. Hillary/DNC paid the Russians for a fake dossier to use against Trump. Yes, there is nothing of value in the dossier.
Destroyed evidence, smashed phones, missing emails.
Held classified emails in non government issued server.
to be continued...
No one can respond to this series of facts because this thread isn't about analyzing the facts. It's about hope and constant speculation. All in the name of bringing our President down for defeating the establishment.
In addition to your strong list, there was the MSM working in lock-step with the Hillary campaign to ensure her historic victory would occur.
When you look at the non-stop BS narratives the MSM pushed before the election, and then the facts in your list above (which is not all-encompassing, by the way- plenty more should be added), you have to wonder what these guys really striving for? It's clearly a corrupt industry that does not have the best interest of the public in mind.
Such a load.
Nixon won too. Everyone is a great guy until it is proven that they aren't.
Donald Trump is a bad bad guy. Ties to the mob (foreign and domestic). A serial liar (we didn't know the depth of his lying until he took office). Proven inability to lead.
Just about everyone around him is either grossly incompetent or has ties to Russia, many of them having conducted illegal activities. This is not by accident. Do you really believe that all those people are guilty of crimes but that their leader is an innocent person? Is he behaving like an innocent person?
Donald Trump doesn't have the best interest of the public in mind...only protecting himself.
You will see how wrong you are.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
The real deal holyfield wrote:
L L wrote:
You know, Trump and his supporters are the only ones who keep throwing around the word "collusion".
The rest of us want to see where the investigation leads.
We are concerned that it seems like Trump instructed Flynn to discuss sanctions relief with Russia before Trump was sworn in.
We are concerned that Trump allowed deadlines to pass for a long time before allowing imposed sanctions to take place.
We are concerned that Trump fired Comey for pursuing any investigation into Russian interference.
We are concerned that Trump worked closely with Manafort and Gates on the campaign who have been indicted for improper relations with the Russians.
We would like to follow the money and see if the Trump organization has been involved in any major foreign money laundering operation.
Trump could be involved in money laundering, tax fraud and obstruction of justice.
It ain't all about collusion or conspiring with a foreign entity, though that may be the case as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Wait, wait- are you saying you don't think there was "colllllluuuussssion" now?! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
You know there's pages and pages and pages of you Libs frothing at the mouth predicting he was going down because of collusion, right? Now, because it's becoming pretty clear that it wasn't the case, you want us to believe that you just wanted a comprehensive, open-ended, "we'll find out the accusation later" investigation?
Grow a pair and admit you were wrong. Then take a little break from LRC.
This is not true. I have said several times that collusion (conspiracy) was by far the toughest to prove and that Mueller really might just get him on Obstruction of Justice and Money Laundering and then Perjury if he ever talks to Mueller. I don't remember at all any of us "liberals", including L L, saying that collusion was going to be the charge. I still think it might happen, but that is not the focus. We all need to know WHY Trump licks Putin's balls. What does Putin have on him? Something.
Mueller will find out, for...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!!
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!
A REAL Man wrote:
The real deal holyfield wrote:
I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if you really are that dense.
There's literally no reason to have an investigation if it's producing no results related to the original objective ("collusion").
The investigation itself was started to delegitimize a massive defeat of the establishment candidate. Every day that it continues, it feeds a narrative that is not helpful to the president's objectives or re-election.
If the investigation were to end and be acknowledged by Mueller as "no evidence of collusion was found" it would be a YUUUUGE win for the president, and would almost surely result in his re-election.
.....and that's why YOU are acting disingenuous..... YOU need it to continue. (You can admit it, nothing wrong with playing politics.)
Here you go, Lying Gary:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-trey-gowdy-trump-apos-174201020.htmlIs Trey Gowdy also "being disingenuous"? Or perhaps he is part of the DEEP STATE. LOL
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Poor Lying Gary. The walls are closing in.
My lord you are dense.
Notice what Gowdy says. Did you even read more than the headline? Have you been following the hearings at all? Gowdy is typically one of the most partisan congressmen out there. He has been the number one hole-puncher in every single Congressional testimony that was attempting to portray it as Russia-Trump collusion. He knows there's no collusion (as he has stated several times), and since he has reviewed the CIA's documentation knows that the more information that comes out, the more it will show that the real colluding was on the other side of the aisle. That's good for Trey Gowdy.
But it's not necessarily good for the president. The president needs to media to focus on his accomplishments and attempts at bi-partidsanship, which of course they won't. As long as the investigation goes on without any evidence of Trump wrongdoing or closure, the longer the media can pretend there's something there.
A good compromise that Trump would most certainly be for would be for Mueller to make a statement that exonerates Trump, while still saying that we're investigating Russia's influence. This is what Trump wants to get ASAP.
Flagpole wrote:
its real, real bad dude wrote:
No one can respond to this series of facts because this thread isn't about analyzing the facts. It's about hope and constant speculation. All in the name of bringing our President down for defeating the establishment.
In addition to your strong list, there was the MSM working in lock-step with the Hillary campaign to ensure her historic victory would occur.
These were the narratives before the election:
"He can't win without Hispanics" (often shown with polls hovering around 15% of Hispanics)
"He can't win without blacks" (shown with polls as low as 1% of blacks)
"He can't win without women" (the icing was the October surprise)
"He can't get the suburban vote because she is strong there" (educated women in particular are going to hurt him)
"He can only get the white, rural, uneducated, poor vote." (his "base")
Here's what happened ("facts"/data):
He won 30% of the Hispanic vote.
He won 8% of the black vote (13% of black men, highest in a long, long time)
He won white women.
He won the suburbs.
He won whites with a college degree.
When you look at the non-stop BS narratives the MSM pushed before the election, and then the facts in your list above (which is not all-encompassing, by the way- plenty more should be added), you have to wonder what these guys really striving for? It's clearly a corrupt industry that does not have the best interest of the public in mind.
Fixed it for you. I'm sure it was an accident to leave the DATA out.
NonHillaryVoter wrote:
Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!!
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!
It's nice to see that "Hope" continues to be the Democrats' main strategy for success. Hahaha
The real deal holyfield wrote:
A REAL Man wrote:
Here you go, Lying Gary:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-trey-gowdy-trump-apos-174201020.htmlIs Trey Gowdy also "being disingenuous"? Or perhaps he is part of the DEEP STATE. LOL
///
Poor Lying Gary. The walls are closing in.
My lord you are dense.
Notice what Gowdy says. Did you even read more than the headline? Have you been following the hearings at all? Gowdy is typically one of the most partisan congressmen out there. He has been the number one hole-puncher in every single Congressional testimony that was attempting to portray it as Russia-Trump collusion. He knows there's no collusion (as he has stated several times), and since he has reviewed the CIA's documentation knows that the more information that comes out, the more it will show that the real colluding was on the other side of the aisle. That's good for Trey Gowdy.
But it's not necessarily good for the president. The president needs to media to focus on his accomplishments and attempts at bi-partidsanship, which of course they won't. As long as the investigation goes on without any evidence of Trump wrongdoing or closure, the longer the media can pretend there's something there.
A good compromise that Trump would most certainly be for would be for Mueller to make a statement that exonerates Trump, while still saying that we're investigating Russia's influence. This is what Trump wants to get ASAP.
Oh, Lying Gary, I expect so much better from you!
Come on, you can do better than that load of sh!t. Perhaps it would help if you didn't hide behind your little friend here. Perhaps it is safe to come out again as yourself, Lying Gary. What do you say, Lying Gary?