The Head Coach/Director, Men’s & Women’s Track & Field, Cross Country directs the overall management and administration of the University’s Division I intercollegiate Men’s & Women’s Track & Field and Cross Country program.
This is a change at BC (is it not)? They were only listing women's CC. now they want a HC/Dirof both sports (listed a few hours ago). I can think of a few would-be candidates in what could be a very desirable job if the 'ships are their for both programs.
The Head Coach/Director, Men’s & Women’s Track & Field, Cross Country directs the overall management and administration of the University’s Division I intercollegiate Men’s & Women’s Track & Field and Cross Country program.
This is a change at BC (is it not)? They were only listing women's CC. now they want a HC/Dirof both sports (listed a few hours ago). I can think of a few would-be candidates in what could be a very desirable job if the 'ships are their for both programs.
So I’m not sure what the NCAA limit is for track, field and cross country programs but you’re implying that some programs don’t max out? If true I didn’t know that. Is that something that happened with covid or an ongoing trend? I know some schools are cutting programs, men’s gymnastics is down to a little over a dozen programs. Etc.
Just curious what makes you think Boston College Track, field and cross country would be a good gig? Power 5? ACC affiliation?
This is a change at BC (is it not)? They were only listing women's CC. now they want a HC/Dirof both sports (listed a few hours ago). I can think of a few would-be candidates in what could be a very desirable job if the 'ships are their for both programs.
So I’m not sure what the NCAA limit is for track, field and cross country programs but you’re implying that some programs don’t max out? If true I didn’t know that. Is that something that happened with covid or an ongoing trend? I know some schools are cutting programs, men’s gymnastics is down to a little over a dozen programs. Etc.
Just curious what makes you think Boston College Track, field and cross country would be a good gig? Power 5? ACC affiliation?
The DI limit for a full men’s’ program (sponsoring both XC & track) is 12.6. 18 is the limit for women. Many programs don’t fund the max (shorthand is “fully funded” when that term comes up here). I’d be willing to bet over half of DI’s don’t…I know for a fact some P5 programs are not “fully funded.” This isn’t a new thing…it’s always been the case because most AD’s do not care. This helps explain why some of those “XC only” programs you see that you think “how can they be so bad?!” Or even some small DI “track” programs…it’s because they often have somewhere between zero & 2 scholarships or so…hence Boston College’s men. The poster is implying that if they are restructuring the staff, maybe they are also “restructuring their support” for the program…to actually support their men with more scholarship? Most P5’s have the money to…it’s just a question of priorities. Now…all that said…the SEC is about to change all those rules/throw them all out. So now is a baaaad time to be at any DI that won’t be in one of the 2-3 super conferences that still exist when the dust settles.
"Now…all that said…the SEC is about to change all those rules/throw them all out. So now is a baaaad time to be at any DI that won’t be in one of the 2-3 super conferences that still exist when the dust settles."
This is spot on. All you aspiring/up-and-coming coaches try to think long-term. The likely scenario for the D1 non-super-conference/mid-major schools will be that either the programs get dropped so the $$ can be poured into the ever-escalating cost of football/basketball (think full-blown payment to players) or they become admissions lures with shoestring budgets and not a thought of competitiveness.
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So I’m not sure what the NCAA limit is for track, field and cross country programs but you’re implying that some programs don’t max out? If true I didn’t know that. Is that something that happened with covid or an ongoing trend? I know some schools are cutting programs, men’s gymnastics is down to a little over a dozen programs. Etc.
Just curious what makes you think Boston College Track, field and cross country would be a good gig? Power 5? ACC affiliation?
The DI limit for a full men’s’ program (sponsoring both XC & track) is 12.6. 18 is the limit for women. Many programs don’t fund the max (shorthand is “fully funded” when that term comes up here). I’d be willing to bet over half of DI’s don’t…I know for a fact some P5 programs are not “fully funded.” This isn’t a new thing…it’s always been the case because most AD’s do not care. This helps explain why some of those “XC only” programs you see that you think “how can they be so bad?!” Or even some small DI “track” programs…it’s because they often have somewhere between zero & 2 scholarships or so…hence Boston College’s men. The poster is implying that if they are restructuring the staff, maybe they are also “restructuring their support” for the program…to actually support their men with more scholarship? Most P5’s have the money to…it’s just a question of priorities. Now…all that said…the SEC is about to change all those rules/throw them all out. So now is a baaaad time to be at any DI that won’t be in one of the 2-3 super conferences that still exist when the dust settles.
Thanks for the explanation. i had no idea departments didn’t fund all the allotted scholarships. I’m an Illinois fan and follow all the non revenues. But with a bad football program with pathetic attendance I wouldn’t doubt the AD doesn’t fully find track. It might be less about not caring and more about spending money to make money. However, they did just complete a $20M renovation of their combined soccer and track facility. But that’s money from a different source.
Thanks for the explanation. i had no idea departments didn’t fund all the allotted scholarships. I’m an Illinois fan and follow all the non revenues. But with a bad football program with pathetic attendance I wouldn’t doubt the AD doesn’t fully find track. It might be less about not caring and more about spending money to make money. However, they did just complete a $20M renovation of their combined soccer and track facility. But that’s money from a different source.
is there a way to determine which programs fully fund and which don’t
coaches are often judged on how they perform in-conference - for the mid majors results can be quite skewed
underfunded program trying compete with better or fully funded programs
Any comments about how to eval coaches when you really don’t know the funding
2 years of non GA work gets you a D1 job now I see
Have no idea who this chick is but seems to have a pretty legit pedigree and coaching stops at multiple places in the last 4+ years…. So yea that’s how you get a d1 job… working for low pay for multiple years after a standout college career and then getting a low paying job at a d1 college no one really cares about… it is mostly hard to get a d1 job because lots of people who think they are d1 material don’t want to work for free for a few years (or even 1 year) and then don’t want to take a job that pays less than many college grads could make in the narp job market.
2 years of non GA work gets you a D1 job now I see
Have no idea who this chick is but seems to have a pretty legit pedigree and coaching stops at multiple places in the last 4+ years…. So yea that’s how you get a d1 job… working for low pay for multiple years after a standout college career and then getting a low paying job at a d1 college no one really cares about… it is mostly hard to get a d1 job because lots of people who think they are d1 material don’t want to work for free for a few years (or even 1 year) and then don’t want to take a job that pays less than many college grads could make in the narp job market.
If you are going to make well thought out replies like this, you will loose most of the audience here.
Have no idea who this chick is but seems to have a pretty legit pedigree and coaching stops at multiple places in the last 4+ years…. So yea that’s how you get a d1 job… working for low pay for multiple years after a standout college career and then getting a low paying job at a d1 college no one really cares about… it is mostly hard to get a d1 job because lots of people who think they are d1 material don’t want to work for free for a few years (or even 1 year) and then don’t want to take a job that pays less than many college grads could make in the narp job market.
If you are going to make well thought out replies like this, you will loose most of the audience here.
2 years of non GA work gets you a D1 job now I see
Have no idea who this chick is but seems to have a pretty legit pedigree and coaching stops at multiple places in the last 4+ years…. So yea that’s how you get a d1 job… working for low pay for multiple years after a standout college career and then getting a low paying job at a d1 college no one really cares about… it is mostly hard to get a d1 job because lots of people who think they are d1 material don’t want to work for free for a few years (or even 1 year) and then don’t want to take a job that pays less than many college grads could make in the narp job market.
2.5 as a GA 6 months as a D3 assistant.
Temple is a good gig so yeah she's definitely not qualified for it.
Have no idea who this chick is but seems to have a pretty legit pedigree and coaching stops at multiple places in the last 4+ years…. So yea that’s how you get a d1 job… working for low pay for multiple years after a standout college career and then getting a low paying job at a d1 college no one really cares about… it is mostly hard to get a d1 job because lots of people who think they are d1 material don’t want to work for free for a few years (or even 1 year) and then don’t want to take a job that pays less than many college grads could make in the narp job market.
If you are going to make well thought out replies like this, you will loose most of the audience here.
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