". . . at least within America; the primary source of illegal guns used in crime here is actually the legal gun market."
". . . at least within America; the primary source of illegal guns used in crime here is actually the legal gun market."
EPlC Flagpole wrote:
Yes, it's me who's grasping at straws. Not Flagpole, the guy that's been wrong for 25+ months.
Not the guy that is flat out lying when he says it has not been proven that the DNC/Hillary cheated in the primaries and also during the general. Among other evidence, Donna Brazille's insight into how a) she gave Hillary questions ahead of time, and b) the DNC basically gave the HRC campaign total control of funding. THAT is cheating.
Then, the October "surprise" dropped by NBC to bury Trump. That whole coordinated effort was sure to hand her the victory, no? OOPS! And after a year of demolition-style journalism to make Trump look like like "Hitler" (obviously many simpletons fell for it).
Now we find out about the fake Steele Dossier, which was funded by the DNC and Clinton Foundation (great job using those funds for humanitarian work, Clintons!). It used Russian officials' statements, and then was used to get the FISA warrant approved through the FBI, which was also against Trump's campaign! Unbelievable, disgusting cheating from many interest groups.
But it wasn't enough.
And here you still cry.
Mueller isn't coming.
The clown remains Flagpole (25+ months of his life, wasted).
Flagpole and thousands of others were wrong about the election. Hell, Trump thought he was going to lose. Months later it's time for you to move on. And get over HRC. She is not our president. Honestly, you seem unhinged. Your posts are the ramblings of a lunatic unable to differentiate between fact and fiction.
Speaking of which, there is nothing fake about the Steele Dossier. Much of it has been proven accurate. Even Steele himself thinks it's 'only' 70-80% accurate. That's how intelligence collection works. But you would know it if you had bothered to pay attention in the last 15 months. You're so obsessed with Flagpole that you can't see the writing on the wall. Trump is done.
Trump was right. He could walk out on 5th Ave. and shoot somebody and many of his supporters would still love him. But taking a step in a liberal direction? And on GUNS? That will not fly.
(Note 1: "liberal direction" does not include abandoning due process. Note 2: So much fun to watch all of President Dealmaker's supporters lose their sh*t the first time he actually proposes a deal. Where's your LOYALTY?)
Obviously, he'll realize this after watching Fox News and stop pushing gun control measures, but this should make Trumpsters nervous. You chained yourselves to this compulsive, lying narcissist. Eventually, he'll throw you all under the bus, too. (Of course, in many ways, he already has.) Just like all the contractors he stiffed. Just like the all the women he groped. Just like most of the people who have left his administration up until this point. It's only a matter of time.
Jared got $500 million dollars in loans from private equity companies right after meeting with their executives in the White House. That is just bananas. And this comes on the heels of getting his security clearances yanked, likely due to his financial conflicts of interests/potential susceptibility to blackmail. Hicks is out after admitting she lied for the president. Ben Carson joins the list of Trump cabinet members spending generous amounts of public money on themselves. This ship is taking on water.
XY wrote:
Can anyone here guarantee that all the good guys with guns or the good guys who pass background checks will remain mentally/emotionally stable the entirety of their gun ownership?
I can! Nobody's mental state EVER changes. Also, no gun EVER gets lost or stolen or changes hands in any other way.
NEVER happens.
I can tell you this! Guaranteed.
guarantee wrote:
XY wrote:
Can anyone here guarantee that all the good guys with guns or the good guys who pass background checks will remain mentally/emotionally stable the entirety of their gun ownership?
You haven't noticed that 3% of Americans own more than 50% of the guns. Those 3% don't have all those guns in their possession. They buy guns and sell them at a profit to people who shouldn't own guns at all.
Nope. As has already been established no gun EVER changes hands.
EVER.
Bigly.
XY wrote:
Can anyone here guarantee that all the good guys with guns or the good guys who pass background checks will remain mentally/emotionally stable the entirety of their gun ownership?
About two thirds of gun deaths in the US are suicide. Not sure if these count as "good guys", "bad guys", or both. Make of that what you will.
Nepotism and blatant conflicts of interest. Great combo
Dumb trump supports will say well everyone uses the white houre for personal gain.
The degree is lost on them. And I thought they voted in trump to shake things up not to accentuate these types of things.
And the hits keep coming. We’ve got Mr Carson over at HUD letting his wife order $31,000 furniture for his office. Trump sure drained the swamp.
No one is surprised would exploit the shooting like a mofo.
He has a picture with a victim and you might see other politians do that to try to build goodwill. But instead of trump doing that and providing a link to donate to victims, trump has a link to beg for money for his campaign.
It is pretty disgusting.
That should have been that no one is surprised trump would exploit the recent shooting for his personal gain.
Let's face it. Trump IS the swamp.
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And he definitely looks like he is due to be drained.
EPlC Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) I am not not 60+.
2) You are grasping at straws, brother. I have already humbly admitted many times that I was wrong about the election (we will see if that holds up though, because if Trump or his campaign was involved in conspiracy with Russia (or any foreign nation actually) to get Trump elected, then that flips and I was RIGHT about the election (for cheaters can not win)).
3) You make assertions about Hillary that aren't proven, so I don't accept those until we see proof. But, two cheatings don't make it ok for Trump. If he cheated, then he did not win. Looks like you are trying to find an out here. Won't work.
4) You voted for a guy who wants to take guns away first and then ask the courts later if that was ok. Good going.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
What username will you use when you are proven wrong?
Yes, it's me who's grasping at straws. Not Flagpole, the guy that's been wrong for 25+ months.
Not the guy that is flat out lying when he says it has not been proven that the DNC/Hillary cheated in the primaries and also during the general. Among other evidence, Donna Brazille's insight into how a) she gave Hillary questions ahead of time, and b) the DNC basically gave the HRC campaign total control of funding. THAT is cheating.
Then, the October "surprise" dropped by NBC to bury Trump. That whole coordinated effort was sure to hand her the victory, no? OOPS! And after a year of demolition-style journalism to make Trump look like like "Hitler" (obviously many simpletons fell for it).
Now we find out about the fake Steele Dossier, which was funded by the DNC and Clinton Foundation (great job using those funds for humanitarian work, Clintons!). It used Russian officials' statements, and then was used to get the FISA warrant approved through the FBI, which was also against Trump's campaign! Unbelievable, disgusting cheating from many interest groups.
But it wasn't enough.
And here you still cry.
Mueller isn't coming.
The clown remains Flagpole (25+ months of his life, wasted).
You've gone off the deep end, brother. Maybe you are Devin Nunes? Step it back to reality for at least a couple of posts and I will actually respond to you. Here's hoping you find reality. In all sincerity.
XY wrote:
Can anyone here guarantee that all the good guys with guns or the good guys who pass background checks will remain mentally/emotionally stable the entirety of their gun ownership?
Nope! Good point of course.
Also, the more guns there are out there, the more that are stolen or lost. We should not make it this easy to get guns.
guarantee wrote:
XY wrote:
Can anyone here guarantee that all the good guys with guns or the good guys who pass background checks will remain mentally/emotionally stable the entirety of their gun ownership?
You haven't noticed that 3% of Americans own more than 50% of the guns. Those 3% don't have all those guns in their possession. They buy guns and sell them at a profit to people who shouldn't own guns at all.
Yep...some definitely do that. That's what happened here in Ohio last month -- dude sold a gun for $100 profit to a felon, and then that felon shot and killed two police officers. These officers had families.
nontrumper wrote:
EPlC Flagpole wrote:
Yes, it's me who's grasping at straws. Not Flagpole, the guy that's been wrong for 25+ months.
Not the guy that is flat out lying when he says it has not been proven that the DNC/Hillary cheated in the primaries and also during the general. Among other evidence, Donna Brazille's insight into how a) she gave Hillary questions ahead of time, and b) the DNC basically gave the HRC campaign total control of funding. THAT is cheating.
Then, the October "surprise" dropped by NBC to bury Trump. That whole coordinated effort was sure to hand her the victory, no? OOPS! And after a year of demolition-style journalism to make Trump look like like "Hitler" (obviously many simpletons fell for it).
Now we find out about the fake Steele Dossier, which was funded by the DNC and Clinton Foundation (great job using those funds for humanitarian work, Clintons!). It used Russian officials' statements, and then was used to get the FISA warrant approved through the FBI, which was also against Trump's campaign! Unbelievable, disgusting cheating from many interest groups.
But it wasn't enough.
And here you still cry.
Mueller isn't coming.
The clown remains Flagpole (25+ months of his life, wasted).
Flagpole and thousands of others were wrong about the election. Hell, Trump thought he was going to lose. Months later it's time for you to move on. And get over HRC. She is not our president. Honestly, you seem unhinged. Your posts are the ramblings of a lunatic unable to differentiate between fact and fiction.
Speaking of which, there is nothing fake about the Steele Dossier. Much of it has been proven accurate. Even Steele himself thinks it's 'only' 70-80% accurate. That's how intelligence collection works. But you would know it if you had bothered to pay attention in the last 15 months. You're so obsessed with Flagpole that you can't see the writing on the wall. Trump is done.
1) Yep. So far I still agree that I was wrong about the election. As we stand here today, March 1, 2018, the facts are that Trump won fair and square. I don't fear being wrong. If I did, I would never make a prediction. IF collusion is proven, I will be right about the 2016 election.
2) Yep. EPIC and other Trumpers need to get over Hillary. She is old news. We are not clamoring for her to become President when Trump is found guilty of conspiracy. It is impossible to defend Trump, so they have to say, "Look at Hillary. Look at Obama." Deflection, and it means nothing other than their admission by doing so that Trump is horrible.
3) Yep. Steele Dossier wasn't what kicked off investigation. This is a dead issue, and it shows ignorance when a Trumper brings it up as an unfair thing to Trump.
4) Yep. The writing on the wall is there. Trump is done.
Drain the swamp and give my family loans wrote:
Nepotism and blatant conflicts of interest. Great combo
Dumb trump supports will say well everyone uses the white houre for personal gain.
The degree is lost on them. And I thought they voted in trump to shake things up not to accentuate these types of things.
I am glad that there are others here who have sense.
Stupid is as stupid does. So, that means Trump supporters aren't just inherently dumb. They can stop being dumb at any time by ending their support for him. Then there will at least be hope for them.
Flagpole wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Flagpole and thousands of others were wrong about the election. Hell, Trump thought he was going to lose. Months later it's time for you to move on. And get over HRC. She is not our president. Honestly, you seem unhinged. Your posts are the ramblings of a lunatic unable to differentiate between fact and fiction.
Speaking of which, there is nothing fake about the Steele Dossier. Much of it has been proven accurate. Even Steele himself thinks it's 'only' 70-80% accurate. That's how intelligence collection works. But you would know it if you had bothered to pay attention in the last 15 months. You're so obsessed with Flagpole that you can't see the writing on the wall. Trump is done.
1) Yep. So far I still agree that I was wrong about the election. As we stand here today, March 1, 2018, the facts are that Trump won fair and square. I don't fear being wrong. If I did, I would never make a prediction. IF collusion is proven, I will be right about the 2016 election.
2) Yep. EPIC and other Trumpers need to get over Hillary. She is old news. We are not clamoring for her to become President when Trump is found guilty of conspiracy. It is impossible to defend Trump, so they have to say, "Look at Hillary. Look at Obama." Deflection, and it means nothing other than their admission by doing so that Trump is horrible.
3) Yep. Steele Dossier wasn't what kicked off investigation. This is a dead issue, and it shows ignorance when a Trumper brings it up as an unfair thing to Trump.
4) Yep. The writing on the wall is there. Trump is done.
Your denial of the facts is unbelievable. You really believe the Steele Dossier is legitimate, and wasn't used as part of the rationale for investigating Trump's team- that's simply amazing. The Liberal Bubble is thick.
OK- Since it's obvious you Lefties are losing your minds due to the disappointing results coming out of Mueller's team (Russian meme makers, seriously?), here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to only come back and post on the 1st of each month, and add a month to "Flagpole's Flagpole Streak." It currently sits at 25+ months of being wrong while still desperately speculating and hoping something takes POTUS45 down.
This ensures that 1) you folks continue to waste your time re-posting garbage relating to a fake, butthurt narrative, 2) I'll waste less time pointing out facts to tribal morons, and 3) it'll provide an easy mechanism to count of just how long Flagpole can keep his streak of being wrong alive.
His streak continues as long as Trump is POTUS and has zero guilty verdicts to his name. We'll talk later about the conditions if Trump wins re-election in 2020. Obviously you guys would have to give up SOMETHING in return. You can't just keep posting useless drivel forever... can you...?
Current status of Flagpole's Flagpole Streak: 25+ months.
See you next month!
EPlC Flagpole wrote:
OK- Since it's obvious you Lefties are losing your minds due to the disappointing results coming out of Mueller's team (Russian meme makers, seriously?), here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to only come back and post on the 1st of each month, and add a month to "Flagpole's Flagpole Streak."
Outstanding! Now if we can just get Flaggy (okay, and me) to do the same thing, we're all set.
Thanks
EPlC Flagpole wrote:
. . .
Current status of Flagpole's Flagpole Streak: 25+ months.
See you next month!
Since we are keeping score here it should be noted...
Flagpole: 412
EPIC Flagpole & Associates: 0
Flagpole wrote:
1) Yep. So far I still agree that I was wrong about the election. As we stand here today, March 1, 2018, the facts are that Trump won fair and square.
It wasn't fair and square at all. While Trump was crying about Hillary illegally busing in voters to the polls, guess what? Trump and his minions were doing exactly that.
A college friend of my wife proudly told people she and her husband joined a group that rented large passengers vans--using their own money as an undocumented donation to Trump to avoid people finding out about it. That friend was in New Jersey and they were given directions on where to pick up people in Pennsylvania and which pole to drive them to to vote. Her directions were to pick up Amish people at a specific location--at her location they drove off in a caravan of large vans. Other "volunteers" picked up people at retirement homes. The voters were targeted by someone as high likelihood of voting for Trump. How many of these special Trump buses--oops, private vans pools--there were is unknown. But from the friend said just about their "adventure" there were a lot at just one location in swing-state PA.