Anti-Semite is no way to go through life, son. Be better.
Geez, back with your stupidity. I don’t agree with Troll on this, but I see no indication that his position (that tons of Jews share) is driven by anti-Semitism. And there IS that on this site, and thread, obviously. Stick to labeling that.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
Interesting how Israelis on let'srun have become military science graduate students.
What were are seeing now is old fashioned Israeli revenge killing.
Duty to protect. A joke.
It’s not pretend military science sophistication to roughly assume both of the following:
1). The IDF is a modern, professional, REASONABLY (by modern standards) ethical military force. I’d be surprised if their targeting process doesn’t share a lot of similarities with American/NATO.
2). Bibi has not - yet, anyway - wrecked #1 (like someone like Trump would love to do).
Why do the dumb ones always interject American politics into every conversation. Smh
It’s not pretend military science sophistication to roughly assume both of the following:
1). The IDF is a modern, professional, REASONABLY (by modern standards) ethical military force. I’d be surprised if their targeting process doesn’t share a lot of similarities with American/NATO.
2). Bibi has not - yet, anyway - wrecked #1 (like someone like Trump would love to do).
Why do the dumb ones always interject American politics into every conversation. Smh
Geez, back with your stupidity. I don’t agree with Troll on this, but I see no indication that his position (that tons of Jews share) is driven by anti-Semitism. And there IS that on this site, and thread, obviously. Stick to labeling that.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
As Israel massacres thousands of Gazans, Muslims and Christians alike...
The concerned humanitarian image you are repeatedly trying to project in this thread is easily determined to be feigned with a quick review of your posts in the Russia Invades Ukraine thread.
You forgot about Israel drops ten thousand bombs on the people of Gaza who have nowhere to go and that Israel is cutting off their food, water, energy, electricity, and medicine. And that Israel kills far more civilians and kids than Hamas does. And has already killed UN staffers. No deflection will change this
I wasn't deflecting. I was pointing out that your alleged humanitarian concerns regarding the facts that you just re-posted are feigned and disingenuous.
If was deflecting, I'd have said something about, for example, your previously posted looney beliefs that Israel was involved in the 9/11/01 Islamic attacks on America.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
As Israel massacres thousands of Gazans, Muslims and Christians alike...
Geez, back with your stupidity. I don’t agree with Troll on this, but I see no indication that his position (that tons of Jews share) is driven by anti-Semitism. And there IS that on this site, and thread, obviously. Stick to labeling that.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
You forgot about Israel drops ten thousand bombs on the people of Gaza who have nowhere to go and that Israel is cutting off their food, water, energy, electricity, and medicine. And that Israel kills far more civilians and kids than Hamas does. And has already killed UN staffers. No deflection will change this
I wasn't deflecting. I was pointing out that your alleged humanitarian concerns regarding the facts that you just re-posted are feigned and disingenuous.
If was deflecting, I'd have said something about, for example, your previously posted looney beliefs that Israel was involved in the 9/11/01 Islamic attacks on America.
You do concede that Israel has dropped ten thousand bombs on the people of Gaza who have nowhere to go and that Israel is cutting off their food, water, energy, electricity, and medicine. And that Israel kills far more civilians and kids than Hamas does. And has already killed UN staffers.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
You’re not keeping “your boys” straight, DF.
Did you hide out all day or did you say “screw those MFers. Come and get me”?
Hamas attackers choked off avenues of escape from the Nova music festival, swarming the site and killing people hiding in bomb shelters, video analysis and survivor testimony reveals.
You deny what is happening and declare you are on the right side!
Amazing
Yes. I am on the right side of history. You, on the other hand, are on the side of those who decapitate babies, burn babies alive and use babies as human shields.
Lol my boy is back! You’re totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends who said they would kill Jews any chance they got didn’t nix you on the day of jihad? Phew! Captain America lives another day.
You’re not keeping “your boys” straight, DF.
It’s interesting, too, because you’re such an as*****, I don’t even know where you stand on the issue. Totally over-shadowed by you being a douche. I’m sure that I’m missing zero wisdom, but interesting, nonetheless.
You obviously didn't read the part of my post where I said that Hamas purposely places civilians in harm's way.
You intentionally fail to see that Israel purposely places civilians (settlers) in harm's way by illegally planting them on Palestinian land. Northern Gaza is next is now being bulldozed by bombs and rightful landowners are being cleared out to make way for incoming Israel white immigrants living in newly constructed Israeli buildings. The seaside homes will be worth a lot of money to Jewish settlers.
If Hamas only cared about settlements on the West Bank this conflict would be much easier to deal with. Hamas thinks all of Israel should not exist.
If Hamas or other group really was only concerned about settlements, they should tell Israel we accept your existence inside certain areas say the 67 lines and then focus attacks on settlements to isolate the settlement movement.
There is nothing to show Israel plans to build settlements in Gaza after this war. They unilaterally removed all the settlements they had in Gaza and got out years ago. I don’t see anyone in Israel wanting to rebuild there.
What I'm seeing is a corrupt hard right government who fkd up badly with their security strategy and intel, and is now going all out violent to try to compensate and distract.
Israelis and Jews everywhere appear to be nearly unanimous about Israeli's currently proposed response in Gaza. The Jewish people I know (in US) are (uncharacteristically) charged and support everything being proposed by the Israeli government. This really is a 9/11 type event to Jews. So I disagree with you that it's a situation where a corrupt Israeli government is using rhetoric and emotions to cover up, distract and pursue misguided goals. They seem to all want what's coming.
They could achieve their objective of ending Hamas without this mass murder.
"Mass murder" is your spin, but irrespective of that, it hasn't happened yet, right? We are 7-8 days in now, Gaza residents have been told to evacuate, and we have not seen the enormous attack that many fear yet. Right? So we don't know how many civilians will be killed and whether it rises to the very subjective level of "mass murder" that you are claiming. And whatever the ultimate response turns out to be, there are some (like you) who are going to say it is "mass murder" no matter what (e.g., people who celebrated Islamic Jihad Rage Day yesterday will be calling everything "mass murder").
And actually, what they are doing now is strengthening and validating the Hamas ideology. Much more terror will come to Israel this way.
Again, that is hugely speculative and subjective/amorphous. Any response at all creates more terrorists, and with Islam in the mix, there will never be any shortage of idiots actively looking for reasons and opportunities to be terrorists -- you do something as simple as writing an obscure book called Satanic Verses or put a purple bomb hat on a cartoon of Muhammad, and you'll fire up thousands of Islamic whackjobs to start terrorist training school.
And does your theory on terrorist creation even bear out? Did the US and UK bombing of Germany create more Nazis? Did the US response to the Islamic terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 generate more Islamic terror attacks against the US? Arguably No to both.
And isn't Israel's government and military aware of your theory and have factored it in for whatever its worth? Is there any response Israel might have, short of doing nothing or surrendering, that won't increase motivation for Islamic terror attacks on Israelis? Won't your proposed Israeli response with Mossad do the same thing? I don't think your theory on terrorist creation is supportable or useable.
All good points - you've made me rethink a few things
This is certainly Israel's 9/11 event, but I still disagree this is a justified response... just as I disagreed with the US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq where we triggered total devastations and left behind a complete humanitarian mess. I'm seeing Israel on a war path with a terrorist group that plays by no rules, wears no unforms, and could be anywhere. It's an ideology they are fighting. Based on history and the intense escalation of deadly response, I do not believe Israel is taking an optimal path to justice here.
As far the Nazis, they were part of the German government, and Germany was soundly defeated and everything was dissolved as a result. Note that many German citizens did not stop being anti-semitic, even after the war. They get major credit though for admitting they were wrong and educating future generations of Germans about their evil role. And yes, I'd say the US response to 9/11 promoted the major rise in jihadist terror. We did not feel that here because we took our security seriously, but you are well aware of the devastation we left behind in the middle east. Is it even debatable that the conditions we left behind paved the way for ISIL and other terror groups to sprout? We failed there and I have no reason to believe Israel bombing the heck out of Gaza and invading will lead to something better.
I guess I just have higher expectations of Israel as arguably the region's only democracy. I am jumping the gun a bit on the number of deaths, but it's because we've seen how these types of responses tend to play out. Did Israel need to cut the lights, fuel, food, and safe passage of civilians? Telling 1 million people without power and fuel to simply move within 24 hours and then bombing their passage - come on. Are they going to take care of all the people in northern Gaza after they invade? It's foolish to think they are going to defeat Hamas this way.
You intentionally fail to see that Israel purposely places civilians (settlers) in harm's way by illegally planting them on Palestinian land. Northern Gaza is next is now being bulldozed by bombs and rightful landowners are being cleared out to make way for incoming Israel white immigrants living in newly constructed Israeli buildings. The seaside homes will be worth a lot of money to Jewish settlers.
If Hamas only cared about settlements on the West Bank this conflict would be much easier to deal with. Hamas thinks all of Israel should not exist.
If Hamas or other group really was only concerned about settlements, they should tell Israel we accept your existence inside certain areas say the 67 lines and then focus attacks on settlements to isolate the settlement movement.
There is nothing to show Israel plans to build settlements in Gaza after this war. They unilaterally removed all the settlements they had in Gaza and got out years ago. I don’t see anyone in Israel wanting to rebuild there.
I agree. I'm curious if they will try to maintain military control of Gaza once they invade. If they do they are inevitably in for a very costly and bloody situation. If they try to "cleanse" it from Hamas militants and leave after they will just come back right away and go back to normal business.
