The untethering of immigration law from the checks and balances of the judiciary is a necessity for the Trump administration to be able to conduct the wholesale removal of millions of immigrants from the US. If the Trump administration has to give everyone a hearing before they are deported, it will take decades to deport the numbers the Trump administration is targeting. But if the Trump administration can just call everyone a terrorist and ship them off to El Salvador to be disappeared in Bukele's gulag, problem solved.
If you are pasty white and have bought into the Great Replacement Theory/Blood and Soil (aka neo-Nazi), then there is no problem with sending innocent people to the gulag because the US is first and foremost a nation of white people and those awful brown people from south of the border are an existential threat to our way of life. If you are the slightest bit Mediterranean with black hair and a good tan, you could be swept up in an ICE raid at any time and be shipped to El Salvador. That is because once Trump is able to get away with sending one guy to the gulag by accident, it clears the way for Trump to just start the wholesale rounding up of anyone who just looks like an immigrant.
What's with "pasty white"? Why was that racial dig necessary? How did that add to the substance of what you are arguing? I'd say it detracted from the good points you had on untethering immigration law from the courts, by signaling what you're really about on these issues.
Eggs.
Point is pretty obvious. Immigration policy is being driven by white nationalists in the government. If their priority was to enforce the immigration laws of the United States, they would not hesitate to build cases and bring them before the proper tribunal before taking action to deport someone. But that is not the priority. The priority is to cleanse the US of any non-white immigrants in such a brutal fashion that it causes a shockwave of fear across all non-white immigrants, whether they are documented or not. And whether they are citizens or not. The message is loud and clear. If you do not get out of the US, you will be rounded up and sent to a torture chamber in El Salvador for the rest of your life. No one will be able to save you. If a judge orders your release or return, the Trump administration will ignore them.
This is all being done very purposefully because Trump knows that it is physically impossible to fulfill his promise to deport 10-15 million people even without due process and just rounding people up. There are only so many people that federal agents can scoop up in an 8 hour workday. And there are only so many detention centers in the US that can house people. The best way to get immigrants to leave is to scare the sh#t out of them by threatening to send them to Bukele's torture chamber. If Hitler was alive today, he would be envious.
you see what m'aga does here? We're spending time defending a probably not model individual instead of talking about the real point, which is that the government should not whisk people off to foreign prisons without due process.
or punish speech it doesn't like
these are things if a Dem president did, right wingers would be setting off in armed 'militias' (white gangs)
He was here illegally. He beat his wife. Good riddance.
So he was arrested and charged with a crime? Was he convicted?
He is an illegal alien. Game over.
not if you believe in the constitution, which clearly you don’t.
Honestly, it’s a great precedent. Court rulings and The Constitution don’t matter? Game on! In 2029, if you own a gun, you get sent to prison in El Salvador. No trial needed.
And “no” the 70 million Republicans getting gang raped in El Salvador will not be eligible to vote by mail.
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you see what m'aga does here? We're spending time defending a probably not model individual instead of talking about the real point, which is that the government should not whisk people off to foreign prisons without due process.
or punish speech it doesn't like
these are things if a Dem president did, right wingers would be setting off in armed 'militias' (white gangs)
He was here illegally. He beat his wife. Good riddance.
They have to go back. La La Fantasy land policy from the klaine/harris administration, catch and release, is OVER. Those flights in the middle of the night full of "migrants" are OVER. Border secure. ICE and border patrol are doing work. Criminals and Losers are being deported.
Dude is literally wearing a high-vis vest or shirt.
If that's the MS-13 uniform, someone needs to get ICE up in here in Indy because we got MS-13 gang members EVERYWHERE today filling potholes.
Today’s exchanges are a great (and depressing) reminder of the value of learning history. If you knew no history, you would probably just think that the Trumper sentiments here today were JUST silly, immature, but fundamentally insincere, expressions demonstrating nothing terribly troublesome.
But no, they very likely DO show how supposedly civilized people and societies can very quickly accept and even celebrate the unthinkable.
Would somewhere in the vicinity of 30% of CURRENT Americans shrug, at best, at running the trains? Very likely.
Chinese purchases of American oil are down -90% Y/Y, while Chinese purchases of Canadian oil are up +700% Y/Y. That’s a $20B annual loss for the United States at $60/barrel.
Dude is literally wearing a high-vis vest or shirt.
If that's the MS-13 uniform, someone needs to get ICE up in here in Indy because we got MS-13 gang members EVERYWHERE today filling potholes.
Today’s exchanges are a great (and depressing) reminder of the value of learning history. If you knew no history, you would probably just think that the Trumper sentiments here today were JUST silly, immature, but fundamentally insincere, expressions demonstrating nothing terribly troublesome.
But no, they very likely DO show how supposedly civilized people and societies can very quickly accept and even celebrate the unthinkable.
Would somewhere in the vicinity of 30% of CURRENT Americans shrug, at best, at running the trains? Very likely.
not if you believe in the constitution, which clearly you don’t.
Honestly, it’s a great precedent. Court rulings and The Constitution don’t matter? Game on! In 2029, if you own a gun, you get sent to prison in El Salvador. No trial needed.
And “no” the 70 million Republicans getting gang raped in El Salvador will not be eligible to vote by mail.
How are you lefties in the "resistance" going to preserve the security of your free states against federal tyranny if you infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, thus depriving your blue states of a well regulated militia?
What's with "pasty white"? Why was that racial dig necessary? How did that add to the substance of what you are arguing? I'd say it detracted from the good points you had on untethering immigration law from the courts, by signaling what you're really about on these issues.
Eggs.
Point is pretty obvious. Immigration policy is being driven by white nationalists in the government. If their priority was to enforce the immigration laws of the United States, they would not hesitate to build cases and bring them before the proper tribunal before taking action to deport someone. But that is not the priority. The priority is to cleanse the US of any non-white immigrants in such a brutal fashion that it causes a shockwave of fear across all non-white immigrants, whether they are documented or not. And whether they are citizens or not. The message is loud and clear. If you do not get out of the US, you will be rounded up and sent to a torture chamber in El Salvador for the rest of your life. No one will be able to save you. If a judge orders your release or return, the Trump administration will ignore them.
This is all being done very purposefully because Trump knows that it is physically impossible to fulfill his promise to deport 10-15 million people even without due process and just rounding people up. There are only so many people that federal agents can scoop up in an 8 hour workday. And there are only so many detention centers in the US that can house people. The best way to get immigrants to leave is to scare the sh#t out of them by threatening to send them to Bukele's torture chamber. If Hitler was alive today, he would be envious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get all that. I was just wondering why you had to take a racial shot with "pasty white" (and again above with "white nationalists"). I think that type of attitude/labeling needlessly cost Harris the election.
Today’s exchanges are a great (and depressing) reminder of the value of learning history. If you knew no history, you would probably just think that the Trumper sentiments here today were JUST silly, immature, but fundamentally insincere, expressions demonstrating nothing terribly troublesome.
But no, they very likely DO show how supposedly civilized people and societies can very quickly accept and even celebrate the unthinkable.
Would somewhere in the vicinity of 30% of CURRENT Americans shrug, at best, at running the trains? Very likely.
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Thanks, but I failed to properly credit you and others for having already made the point in the second paragraph earlier today.