Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Dershowitz voted for HRC has stated on numerous occasions that he does not support Trump's agenda. What he apparently is, is an attorney who actually supports the rule of law and the constitution, irrespective of his political leanings. And I'm not hoodwinked by anyone.........I just have looked at the lack of evidence and see no hint of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. And thats what the investigation is supposed to be about. I don't particularly like Trump. Hes a buffoon, has no twitter discipline and likely has cheated on his wife. But so did JFK. If that disqualified someone from being a President, I suspect we'd not see many that would have made it, from the past Presidents. That being said, any Republican or Independent could be in that office and I'd support them. And even a Democrat, if they had more things I agreed with them on then disagreed. Joe Lieberman comes to mind, from years past. Today of course, no Democrats, certainly not HRC, not Bernie Sanders. I also just happen to agree with what Trump is attempting to do or has done in a lot of cases. The problem with the Democrats these days is that they are so far left of center such that even JFK would not be competitive in this environment.

1) You are hoodwinked as long as you continue to support Trump.

2) Trump's problems as far as being President are not his infidelities. To make a comparison between him and Kennedy is ridiculous. If ONLY Trump just had affairs. He's in trouble WAY deeper than that, and he's a way worse person than just affairs (the affairs just show one of his many personality flaws). He's not in trouble because he f*cks whores and Playmates.

3) Mueller has WAY more information about all of this than either of us know, but when looking at this comment from Donald Trump Jr...."Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?"...is enough to show collusion for me. a) Trump Jr. says he loves it; b) Trump Jr. tells the contact WHEN to release the dirt on Hillary "especially later in the summer". That is key here. He has given Russia information on when it would be best to spill the dirt (that IS collusion); C) Trump Jr. makes plans to meet with the Russians and then DOES meet with them. Steve Bannon said there is no chance that Trump Sr. didn't know about this meeting. This will be small potatoes though when we find out everything that Trump and his campaign did.

4) You have some hope by saying that Trump is a buffoon (he is) and that there are some reasons you don't "particularly" like him -- cheating on wife, no Twitter discipline. BUT, you have a long way to go (and it is you who needs to change here as you are on the wrong side of what is right). You are continuing to support a man who is a serial liar, an adulterer, accused by 19 women of sexual abuse or harassment, who has admitted on tape to sexually assaulting women, who has admitted on tape that he doesn't necessarily respect women, who has admitted on camera that he goes backstage at his pageants so he can see naked women against their will, who is not the Christian he says he is as evidenced by his "Two Corinthians" comment, who has incited violence at rallies, who has equated White Supremacists with those who protested against them, who golfs at such a frequency that it is unreal. "What's the frequency Kenneth?" (and his golfing costs taxpayers a fortune), who shows no restraint on Twitter by commenting to just about anyone at any time who makes a negative comment about him, who creepily said on The View that if Ivanka weren't his daughter he'd probably be dating her and supposedly told at least two women he banged that they reminded him of his daughter...and now we get to the good stuff...who was charged in the 80s of housing discrimination against black people, who has had business dealings with people associated with the mob (foreign and domestic), who has been suspected of money laundering for years (Mueller will prove) and who has consistently obstructed justice with regard to the Russia probe and surrounded himself with the "best people"who mostly turn out to be horrible people with sketchy pasts. Finally, you get to add in that he's a hateful vitriolic narcissist. He's one of the worst people on the planet outside a prison wall, and there are many inside who are better. You really need to change your view, because you are just wrong.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Conundrum wrote:

I am not one to be effusive in my praise but your posts on this thread are of extreme high quality and very incisive. You address each oppositional point patiently and you expose it as either factually wrong or in some way illogical. If its a good point you acknowledge that too.

I quite frankly am not as politically astute as many on this board, but I feel like I learn much from your posts. If this post sounds overly obsequious then guilty as charged.

Your posts are appreciated and enjoyable so keep up the good work!

(I do think your talents are a bit wasted on this board and hopefully you apply your skills to a broader forum .......... couldn't you have done something to save Ohio for us))

Flagpole wrote:

1) You are hoodwinked as long as you continue to support Trump.

2) Trump's problems as far as being President are not his infidelities. To make a comparison between him and Kennedy is ridiculous. If ONLY Trump just had affairs. He's in trouble WAY deeper than that, and he's a way worse person than just affairs (the affairs just show one of his many personality flaws). He's not in trouble because he f*cks whores and Playmates.

3) Mueller has WAY more information about all of this than either of us know, but when looking at this comment from Donald Trump Jr...."Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?"...is enough to show collusion for me. a) Trump Jr. says he loves it; b) Trump Jr. tells the contact WHEN to release the dirt on Hillary "especially later in the summer". That is key here. He has given Russia information on when it would be best to spill the dirt (that IS collusion); C) Trump Jr. makes plans to meet with the Russians and then DOES meet with them. Steve Bannon said there is no chance that Trump Sr. didn't know about this meeting. This will be small potatoes though when we find out everything that Trump and his campaign did.

4) You have some hope by saying that Trump is a buffoon (he is) and that there are some reasons you don't "particularly" like him -- cheating on wife, no Twitter discipline. BUT, you have a long way to go (and it is you who needs to change here as you are on the wrong side of what is right). You are continuing to support a man who is a serial liar, an adulterer, accused by 19 women of sexual abuse or harassment, who has admitted on tape to sexually assaulting women, who has admitted on tape that he doesn't necessarily respect women, who has admitted on camera that he goes backstage at his pageants so he can see naked women against their will, who is not the Christian he says he is as evidenced by his "Two Corinthians" comment, who has incited violence at rallies, who has equated White Supremacists with those who protested against them, who golfs at such a frequency that it is unreal. "What's the frequency Kenneth?" (and his golfing costs taxpayers a fortune), who shows no restraint on Twitter by commenting to just about anyone at any time who makes a negative comment about him, who creepily said on The View that if Ivanka weren't his daughter he'd probably be dating her and supposedly told at least two women he banged that they reminded him of his daughter...and now we get to the good stuff...who was charged in the 80s of housing discrimination against black people, who has had business dealings with people associated with the mob (foreign and domestic), who has been suspected of money laundering for years (Mueller will prove) and who has consistently obstructed justice with regard to the Russia probe and surrounded himself with the "best people"who mostly turn out to be horrible people with sketchy pasts. Finally, you get to add in that he's a hateful vitriolic narcissist. He's one of the worst people on the planet outside a prison wall, and there are many inside who are better. You really need to change your view, because you are just wrong.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Fat hurts wrote:

Trump-to-Russia private connection wrote:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

Thanks for posting that. I've been meaning to follow up on the details of the Trump/Russia server story for quite some time.

Without giving away too much about what I do, I can say with some authority that the Slate story is well written and technically sound.

Furthermore, it is extremely convincing evidence of collusion. Assuming the facts in the story are true, there is no doubt that the Trump organization and Alpha Bank were having secret conversations.

All you have to do is get the forensic experts to testify. Then add the details of Jared Kushner's secret meeting with the head of Alpha Bank and you've got proof of a secret Trump/Russia relationship during the campaign.

Throw in the fact that the server communication spiked at significant times, such as during the conventions and you wouldn't have much trouble convincing a jury that there was collusion.

And that collusion goes a long way toward proving criminal conspiracy.

Uuuhhhhh, what? wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

I am not one to be effusive in my praise but your posts on this thread are of extreme high quality and very incisive. You address each oppositional point patiently and you expose it as either factually wrong or in some way illogical. If its a good point you acknowledge that too.

I quite frankly am not as politically astute as many on this board, but I feel like I learn much from your posts. If this post sounds overly obsequious then guilty as charged.

Your posts are appreciated and enjoyable so keep up the good work!

(I do think your talents are a bit wasted on this board and hopefully you apply your skills to a broader forum .......... couldn't you have done something to save Ohio for us))

Factually wrong? You're talking about something being "factually wrong"... to Flagpole??... the guy that has literally been factually wrong for 24+ months now??!! You Lefties live in a wild, crazy dreamland of what "facts" are.

24 months and running. Flagpole has yet to be right in a single prediction. That is not even debatable. That's why he posts so much in the first place.

But yeah, he's super on point [with Liberal talking points and hopes].

LOL

Flagpole wrote:

knew you here way back wrote:

Flagpole, I'm not American, so one might think I have no dog in this fight, but decisions (and tweets) made by your narcissistic president have the potential to affect everybody. I've looked into this thread from time to time to see if there's anything new to learn. I'm a little reluctant to admit this, but I think this thread might be the best real-time source of current and breaking news in this ongoing saga. Thanks for keeping up the good fight and stoking the fires of discussion.

Half of my clients (I own my own manufacturing consulting business) are out of the country, and I have yet to talk to one of them who has positive things to say about our President (or as you correctly said, "narcissistic" President). The behavior of the President of the United States definitely affects the whole world, and since he has been in office, it's been a chaotic mess. The best news is that even if this drags on so long that he is able to finish 2 terms, at the most, the world is infected by him for only 7 more years. Lots of damage can be done by then, but at least our system doesn't allow for a dictator to take hold. It won't get to 7 more years though.