Well there you have it. So much for "spycraft"...
There will be no excuses now. This is the beginning of the end.
Well there you have it. So much for "spycraft"...
There will be no excuses now. This is the beginning of the end.
ExpertKipWatcher wrote:
So all the "stealth" people were talking bollocks?
I sure hope Team B has better OpSec than Team A.
ExpertKipWatcher wrote:
So all the "stealth" people were talking bollocks?
Yes.
LRC post judge wrote:
Rallying cry for lrc wrote:Nobody has the guts to follow Rob. What the f--k happened to the Letsrun I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest week of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. 'Ooh, we're afraid to go follow Rob, we might get in trouble."
Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Rob, he's a dead man! the guy with the necklace, dead! Skins, dead! Who's with me? Let's gooooo!!!!!!
Best post of the day!
It's amazing how many clueless people have joined this thread in the last day or two. Sit back and watch, you may be amazed.
SpyVsSpy wrote:
Well there you have it. So much for "spycraft"...
And instead of trying to out RY, they're apparently helping him finish :-/
searcher of answers wrote:
The only way Rob could believe those are his real PRs are if he's delusional, since he's not done anything to indicate he's capable of anything remotely close to those times. So nothing close to an explanation there.
Why no data? I don't care how 'off the cuff' he may be, it doesn't take 5mins to arrange a couple of garmins uploading to a strava account.
And he's got the man on his crew to do it:
Scot. wrote:
Where's the data. wrote:Also, this withholding of simple data doesn't wash because his chief media manipulator, ghost writer, current crew member and the man doing all the online posting, Dustin Brooks has said:
"I love apps and technology"
http://www.digitalleaf.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/A-Day-in-the-life-of-Dustin-Brooks1.pdfbut he can't :
"along with tens of thousands of runners around the world, I uploaded my morning run to Strava. It shows where I ran, my heart rate, my cadence, distance covered, and time. It took me about 30 seconds. They have a mobile app that works on your wireless signal-- if you can post on Facebook, you can upload to Strava or a similar site."
What's happened here is they thought they could get away with this whole exercise by cheating/fudging/manipulating, what ever you want to call it, because the gullible sycophants and media wouldn't question anything. One problem, they didn't account for LetsRun.
This is Rob's chief collaborator who shouldn't be getting off scot free either.
User:RexusDustin=Dustin Brooks wrote:
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dlmbrookshttps://www.facebook.com/dlmbrookshttps://twitter.com/rexusdustin/mediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RexusDustin
RY is surely a genuinely nice guy.
Shit, Team A has been lost. Team B, you are year Team A as a hostile enemy.
Plot twist: Laz took the money and split it 50:50 with RY on a massive IHOP blowout.
Boots on the ground? wrote:
ThunderThighs wrote:You don't pre-announce the progress of a spy mission. Are you an amateur?
Why spy? Why not just join the caravan and document the legitimacy of it all? Hit your garmin when RY is running and collect the data that they are unwilling to reveal.
Who died & named you Phil Liggett? Those geezers won't "report" to the moronz on Lezrun...duh!
Are they on your payroll?
Then why would you think they would come skipping over here to make you happy?
Jeeze Robert, does the world always revolve around you?
Not clear. That may have been their original plan until they realised how hopelessly unorganised RY's crew were and thought the situation was actually dangerous.
Don't forget it was essentially (unplanned) 'stealth' that caught RY out in the first place and lead to this whole thread. I don't think it would have been a bad strategy, but anyway it is what it is now.
Ultra list to the rescue wrote:
we decided under the circumstances to try and help some.
laz
Laz is obviously a better guy than this Natty dude.
arealpersson wrote:He has a big heart and you won't meet a much more generous guy. Of course this has been turned into lots of snide sarcastic comments on here about doing things 'for the kids'. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing the people who make those comments have never done anything 'for the kids' in their lives.
I have spent most of my free time my whole life volunteering for charities. Recently, at mid career, with four kids including two in college, I took a 40% pay cut to take an opportunity to work for a nonprofit I really believe in.
It pisses me off to see narcissists "raising awareness" or whatever "for the children" just to get themselves attention or to get someone else to pay for their holiday. Rob is doing a cool thing, many of us would love to run for a living. Just admit that you're doing it because it's a cool thing to do and a challenge. Spare me the "not for myself" stuff.
This is not a knock against his charity. Are you the guy who did a multi-day run and raised money for a water charity (which is my thing)? Good for you and good on Rob to throw some money the charity's way.
I see people putting their dreams on hold so they can care for disabled children or adults. I see people volunteering behind the scenes at charities, giving up their hobbies and putting in hours of thankless work, often to see their hearts broken because helping the smiling children in the brochures often turns out to be complicated. Those people are sacrificing. Some guy who plays in a charity golf tournament or does a charity run challenge isn't sacrificing.
Rob does full-time the hobby that we enjoy and pay to do. Based on that article from 2004, he's made doing endurance sports for charity a full-time gig for well over a decade. Good on him. Yes, I guess I am a bit jealous that he gets to travel all over running with folks telling him how great he is while I have to try to fit my runs between working and volunteering and posting on this board.
Defend him if you want. I think he cheated but I also think the accusations on this thread have gone way over the top. Just shut up about it being selfless or "for the kids".
Natty Dung wrote:
ExpertKipWatcher wrote:So all the "stealth" people were talking bollocks?
Yes.
If you think so
Can we please put together a sensible list of questions for Laz to ask Rob and the team.
Imagine if Rob had been hit by a car and died when the Laz and his crew were shadowing him. He would have become immortal.
searcher of answers wrote:
Not clear. That may have been their original plan until they realised how hopelessly unorganised RY's crew were and thought the situation was actually dangerous.
How exactly do you stealthily track someone going 5 mph on an open road on foot or in a vehicle? (Without being so far back you can't actually see anything I should add)
sarah jane 101 wrote:
Plot twist: Laz took the money and split it 50:50 with RY on a massive IHOP blowout.
Wow! Liz and his buddies drove 1,800 miles to shakedown some guys in an RV. Now, that's America.
searcher of answers wrote:
The only way Rob could believe those are his real PRs are if he's delusional, since he's not done anything to indicate he's capable of anything remotely close to those times. So nothing close to an explanation there.
This. If I look at my watch after a 5K and see that I have a 4:10 split recorded for one of the miles, I don't say "Sweet! I just ran a 20 second mile PR!" I say "hmm, guess something is screwy with my timing or with the course markings, because I obviously didn't just crush all the FAT timed miles I've ever run during a longer race."
If you have a 5K PR of 16:30 and you run 16:25 en route to an 8K, sure, call 16:25 your new PR if you want. But the discrepancies with this guy are just too big for him to possibly believe that his en route PRs are that much faster than his verifiable times.
Making contact as such wasn't the "headed out the door" plan, so we will all need to wait and hear more from Laz.
It's time to cut the crap about Laz and friends. And I'll start with myself and change my handle.
Laz and the crew are the new heroes!
All hail the Geezers!