Am I the only one who read this?? I find it hard to beleive that anyone would hire this kind of a person. Come on Vince you knew going in this job was not a good job then you made it worse. I am leaving the team better than I got it, come on man! If it were leaveing it better you would not let this kind of article be written!! You are a great talker but when it comes right down to it you suck as a coach!!
How can Vanhoy be terrible? Did anybody see what all Jenkins accomplished this past season.
Darn I wanted to be the 2000 post...but I am 2003rd. Darn.
Anyone see that Ohio State has an opening posted today....Khadevis to KY??
Deacon wrote:
http://m.chanute.com/mobile/news/article_c47396ee-fb03-11e2-83d6-0019bb30f31a.htmlHe's going there to be an assistant......
I am a normal reader and not poster on this site. Everyone has given me great insite in looking at available jobs.
However, this article upsets me in many ways. One, yes, the problems at the school that need to be addressed. However, I think that the coach gave in too easily. I've battled very similar problems, no facilities, lack of respect for the team, ever reduced budgets. However, I have hung in at my school for ten years because I believe in helping my athletes..no matter what. Our budget was cut to only $3500 for cross country last year and less than $15000 for indoor/outdoor track. We could not afford to feed the athletes at meets. We could not afford to buy new uniforms or equipment. But I hung on, because I felt we were making a difference to the athletes lives. I did fundraising, which helped get the athletes shoes. But we did without more than we did with.
In the ten years, we have never had our own track. We had a short time spand to use a local high school track between high school practice and club teams practicing on the track. We still managed to have 36 athletes in the last two years qualify for nationals and had several place in the top three..with one national champion.
However, what happen to us, is a little different. Our new president decided he does not like sports. So he cut the club football team and the track team after last season. Left basketball and cross country with no scholarships. You might think it was financial (after reading above). However, the athletic fee is being raised (finally) this fall to cure any financial problems.
I was crushed to find out track was eliminated when we were the only junior college team in our state. That is the sole reason my eyes are now open looking for another coaching job. Technically I still have a cross country team, but the president cut out all scholarships at the last minute. So I could not recruit anyone for fall. But I will help improve whomever comes out for the team, because that is what I do..help my athletes improve on the track and in the classroom.
There are many other junior college coaches out there in similar situations (bad budgets, no facilities) but they hang in there, because they make a difference in their athletes lives. Most people will never know who they are, but they should be congradulated for doing the best they can with what they have.
Unfortunately I feel long term, unless we have change in the fiscal issues in education, I think that many schools will drop track and cross country and instead opt for club teams. Club teams are responsible for their own fundraising and sometimes can get money through student councils.
The big issue is that it is almost impossible for an XC team to not lose money, and definitely impossible for a track team to not lose money unless the coaches aren't being paid, they use other schools facilities, and they don't give scholarships. When pole vault pads alone cost $5-10k, and tracks cost over $100K and need to be resurfaced every 10 years, keeping track around is a difficult task for most schools who are already in the red.
Apply for this job then, it's a big step up from where you are now and you can help the athletes. It's not as bad as Bingham says.
Great points. College athletics has to add value to the campus community. We, as coaches, can see what Track does for student-athletes, but is it money well spent? Could the money spent on athletics impact a greater number of students if spent in other ways....especially at a junior college. Not a blanket statement or question, just my thoughts.
Borrough and Faustin-Parker officially announced.
Didn't know she coached the distance runners. When Rohl reads that he' have an anurisim.
Any word on: Auburn, throws & jumps
Purdue, jumps
South Carolina, distance
South Florida, sprints
I don't think Rohl cares what she says as long as she stays gone.
Ohio Slider wrote:
http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/c-track/spec-rel/080613aaa.htmlBorrough and Faustin-Parker officially announced.
Didn't know she coached the distance runners. When Rohl reads that he' have an anurisim.
Cant believe that no one has mentioned the distance job opening at Ohio State University. KD to LSU!!!
world class wrote:
Any word on: Auburn, throws & jumps
Purdue, jumps
South Carolina, distance
South Florida, sprints
gonna add:
Charleston Southern: Head Men's XC/ Track
Brewton Parker: Head XC/Track
Lynchburg: Head XC/ Track
Wisco: Assistant XC
UT Dallas: Head XC/ Assistant Baseball
Alvernia: Head XC/ Track
littlesuprpised wrote:
Cant believe that no one has mentioned the distance job opening at Ohio State University. KD to LSU!!!
Not knowing KD, this seems like a perfect fit considering the way LSU has run their program in the past.
Why would anyone leave THE Ohio State University?!
https://ukjobs.uky.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/search/SearchResults_css.jsp
Kentucky should be announcing soon....
Does Jenkins follow his coach?
I doubt it BUT you never know. He does have 2 years left assuming he red-shirt this coming year.
Badger badger wrote:
Proof wrote:
watsons shadow wrote:Ryan Vanhoy to Ole Miss
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How do you know ? Is there proof of this ?
Confirmed by many of the athletes at Ole Miss. What a terrible replacement.
That would be the biggest Cracker Jack hire in the history of the sport. Has he even ran his own program yet? Can't believe An SEC school would hire someone with such an unproven record.
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Is it any coincidence that the head coach/director of track and field at Northeastern is Cathy Erickson
http://gonu.com/coaches.aspx?rc=369&path=mtrackwho spent time as an assistant at Ole Miss while the current Ole Miss head (Brian O'Neal) was also an assistant there? This guy VanHoy was hired to coach XC at Northeastern back in December:
http://gonu.com/coaches.aspx?rc=375&path=mtrackand he didn't even make it to the first xc season!!!Speaking of not making it thru the season; Three of O'Neal's assistants at Ole Miss got fired before their first season was up. Is this about power?
Proof wrote:
watsons shadow wrote:
Ryan Vanhoy to Ole Miss
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How do you know ? Is there proof of this ?
Confirmed by many of the athletes at Ole Miss. What a terrible replacement.
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"No, there is another....".
watsons shadow wrote:
Ryan Vanhoy to Ole Miss
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How do you know ? Is there proof of this ?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Has anyone considered that perhaps this is just the Ole Miss coach putting this out here to test the reactions and find out what people know/feel about this guy as a possible candidate before he actually makes a decision? If any of this other stuff is true, not a very creative choice.