Non-Nike Athletes May Be F**ked - Nike WILL Release Alphaflys and they WILL BE LEGAL for 2020 Tokyo

And if i recall correctly, even the differences between the wind resistance of a normal stages bike and a time trials bike is negibly small (think <1% or somehing like that) which will even be smaller if they are on the same type of bike and not one person on a tome trisls bike and the others on normal road bikes. It's almost completely the rider and his riding position. And there should not be any trouble for most teams to not reach the minimum weight.

Sure, even the more “budget“ bikes are fucking expensive, but you are not in any disadvantages by which brand you choose. And last but not least, there is no patent that prevent other teams to make equally good performing equipment and the rules have not seemingly just been re-tailored specifically to legitimate just one uber bike.

I think one of the world's best triathletes is riding a Cube bike, which are considered on the “budget“ side of things (still around $8K or so though)

And then there's of course other sports that don't rely on which equipment you are using

tome trisls bike = time trials bike

LoneStarXC wrote:

I’m starting to think that “JustRunBaby” is actually Camille Herron... based on her recent tweets about the “free market” and “no one missing out”.

https://mobile.twitter.com/runcamille/status/1225440407057817601

Replying to

@Run_lenny

@pwerhane

and

@GlenCottingley

No one is missing out. It’s a free market for other companies to innovate within the rules, and many are debuting their shoes at the Trials. Also, reports are that Kipchoge’s shoes were legal. It just wasn’t a record legal event.

9:25 AM · Feb 6, 2020

Either this, or certain Nike athletes are being given talking points and buzzwords to use, which is why they all sound like an echo of one another.

Any idea on the estimates of the benefit running like ~30:30 for 10k? Is it worth it if I'm just washed up post college guy trying to break 30:30?

Adidas will come to play soon by the looks of it.

KraftMacAndCheese wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

I’m starting to think that “JustRunBaby” is actually Camille Herron... based on her recent tweets about the “free market” and “no one missing out”.

https://mobile.twitter.com/runcamille/status/1225440407057817601

Either this, or certain Nike athletes are being given talking points and buzzwords to use, which is why they all sound like an echo of one another.

Unfortunately I wouldn't put it past Nike to have members posting support on this thread...

im not a dumb dumb wrote:

track degen wrote:

But there are studies that support the argument that this is not the case in distance running.

Those studies are all significantly flawed with large amounts of error.

I say this as someone who despises Nike and will never wear those shoes.

So you are of the belief that the Nike Alphaflies do not present a material advantage over all other competitor brand distance shoes. I'd imagine that belief is in the minority.

KraftMacAndCheese wrote:

Either this, or certain Nike athletes are being given talking points and buzzwords to use, which is why they all sound like an echo of one another.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, Uncle Phil is paying me to post here. I am still correct.

Athletics isn't very popular here in the UK and most people believe the athletes themselves are juiced up to their eyeballs. The new shoe tech is another nail in the coffin. Athletics =/= integrity.

Nike has created a diversion, the Kenyan Olympic kit.

JustRunBaby wrote:

KraftMacAndCheese wrote:

Either this, or certain Nike athletes are being given talking points and buzzwords to use, which is why they all sound like an echo of one another.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, Uncle Phil is paying me to post here. I am still correct.

Spoken like a true narcissistic Nike shill.

I would like to see the specs and reviews on that Adidas and see how it matches up to what Nike has put out so far. Adidas seems to have one of the better shots of putting out something comparable.

Spikes.

Discus.

wow wow wrote:

Where you present when God was handing out brains?

Yes I was, and in fact I was polite enough to hold the door, so everyone else could get theirs first. LOL

Brooks is owned by Berkshire Hathaway clearly they are smart with their money but Warren’s pockets are plenty deep if there is a ROI quote]RunRaider wrote:

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

I don't understand how all the other shoe companies were caught so off guard by this shoe. All the people involved in designing a shoe and bringing it into production, and Brooks et al can't find ONE source within Nike to tell them about the damn thing so that they can get started with tech of their own to respond? I bet Nike knows what is going on within Brooks's R&D department...because their information people are doing their jobs.

If you're a non-Nike athlete. Don't be pissed at Nike. Be pissed at your own shoe sponsor.

Nike is a massive apparel conglomerate with a tiny and massively-subsidized running division. Brooks and Saucony are running-specific brands and simply don't have the revenue to justify a massive R&D operation.

HOKA is now Dockers-owned, so they likely have some extra cash to play with. Adidas and New Balance are in a similar market position to Nike, just on a smaller scale.

In any case, the competition shoe category is a loss-leader for all of these brands. The Vaporfly project has been terrific marketing for Nike's running division, but it almost certainly isn't making them much profit.

The issue is whether Nike's dominance of the competition category will box out other brands. This is only really a "problem" for the tiny percentage of people who follow professional running.

I expect what this will do is create an opening for non-shoe athlete sponsorship. For example, would Run Gum support an elite training group and let the athletes run in whichever shoe is most competitive? Maybe. There are increasingly more vendors in the space who could support athletes and wouldn't place gear restrictions on them that could hurt their performance.[/quote]

That's what I was wondering, From reading I know that Khanouchi's 2:05.38 AR And Hall's 2:04.58 fastest time by an American And Kastor's 2:19.36 AR are as good as gone, but will these shoes also be used on the Track Meaning Rupp's 26:44 for 10000 AR And Jagers 8:00 Steeple and Lagat's 12:53 for 5000 and 7:29.00 for 3000 are gone, Can Engels get Lagat's 3:27.40 with these shoes? How about Brazier breaking the 1:40 Barrier?

If Eliud Kipchoge was allowed as a guest in the Olympic Marathon Trials race, but he was forced to wear ANY Shoes he wants EXCEPT NIKE, would he have ANY CHANCE WHATSOEVER? or would everyone who has the shoes be able to just take off and leave him?

douglas burke wrote:

That's what I was wondering, From reading I know that Khanouchi's 2:05.38 AR And Hall's 2:04.58 fastest time by an American And Kastor's 2:19.36 AR are as good as gone, but will these shoes also be used on the Track Meaning Rupp's 26:44 for 10000 AR And Jagers 8:00 Steeple and Lagat's 12:53 for 5000 and 7:29.00 for 3000 are gone, Can Engels get Lagat's 3:27.40 with these shoes? How about Brazier breaking the 1:40 Barrier?

If Eliud Kipchoge was allowed as a guest in the Olympic Marathon Trials race, but he was forced to wear ANY Shoes he wants EXCEPT NIKE, would he have ANY CHANCE WHATSOEVER? or would everyone who has the shoes be able to just take off and leave him?

That's not how it works.

Player in new prototype shoes jumps and hits head on the shot clock over the basket.

"Oops better dial back the springs a little bit more - next"

LRC's campaign against Nike is funny. Idiots.

Interesting— I didn’t know Brooks had an owner