HEPS Track and Field 2013-14

I believe that coach Powell was clearly the steward for the current Penn Sophomore class and beyond. However, incoming Freshmen knew that Charlie Powell had left the program and were left with decisions regarding confidence in Dolan's credibility and vision.

The freshman class is clearly Dolan's creation. There are lots of programs with coaches having left and the recruiting class they shepherded went to other schools. You have to give Dolan 100% credit for sealing the deal with these kids and their parents.

Don't forget, his selling point was not only his innovative approach to training and keeping his athletes healthy; he also proved his chops with an Olympian that he coached to the 2012 games.

You add to this the fact that he was a decathlete and knows and respects the throws and you get a guy that covers all the events in credible form.

I was present at a Princeton meet early this year where the temps were in the 30s and Dolan was there not with his runners, but cheering on his throwers with gusto.

I didn't see any other Track Directors out there but him. That told me more about the guy's commitment to his "FULL" team than anything else he did this year.

PENN is on the verge of big things over the next year and Dolan is the architect.

JHT2014, how's your nephew (? I think it was?) doing?

I see that Rudy Winkler is down as an entry for Cornell's home meet this weekend. If that means he's back to healthy, good for him--hope to see him at Heps! I think there was some noise about maybe having him redshirt--he only got a couple meets in during the winter, so redshirting might preserve his eligibility for a full year. (Sorry, not sure about NCAA rules for this.)

JustCurious wrote:

(Sorry, not sure about NCAA rules for this.)

I was told when I was an undergrad that for redshirting, you need to have competed in less than 20% of the meets during a given season. I don't remember if competing at conference (even if you did not compete for the rest of the season) knocked you out of redshirting contention though (I think it does).

He's doing great at Penn. Re: Redshirting, this is not a permissible path for any Ivy league athlete. Ivy edict not NCAA. If you are hurt you lose that part of the season. The only way to make up for this is if you want to compete at a post-graduate level at your current or other school. Huge disadvantage athletically for the Ivy athletes, but promotes the value of an education over sports.

JustCurious wrote:

JHT2014, how's your nephew (? I think it was?) doing?

I see that Rudy Winkler is down as an entry for Cornell's home meet this weekend. If that means he's back to healthy, good for him--hope to see him at Heps! I think there was some noise about maybe having him redshirt--he only got a couple meets in during the winter, so redshirting might preserve his eligibility for a full year. (Sorry, not sure about NCAA rules for this.)

justhepsthrows2014 wrote:

The only way to make up for this is if you want to compete at a post-graduate level at your current or other school.

Yes, I'm aware of the consequences of losing a year at an Ivy; I was just wondering whether in fact he's going to lose that year!

BTW, there is no grad-student competition in the Ivies, either; if someone loses one of her/his four Ivy undergraduate years, s/he only gets fifth-year eligibility at another (non-Ivy) university.

Results from the Cornell meet are up:

http://cornellbigred.com/documents/2014/5/3/2014_Cornell_Outdoor_Invitational_Results.pdf

Weather was variable but maybe was good prep for weather at Heps which is not projecting as great:

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USCT0135

Notable results:

Akpaete now shows as Ivy leader with her wind-legal 24.07 for 200. This promises to be one of the tightest Heps events.

K. Woodford cracked 55sec for 400 on a day with some wind.

Hairston improved his 110H time, but with wind aid.

Blair had a seasonal HJ best of 2.19/7-2.25.

Three of Cornell's female vaulters had season bests and moved into the top seven in the event.

C/M Runner wrote:

Columbia will be sending some of their crew out to Payton Jordan.

I could be wrong here, but didn't see any Columbia foax on the Jordan entries list.

Anyway, even if nothing Ivy happens at Stanford--and with half the League's teams "off" this weekend--I noticed a considerable number of top-six seasonal marks in the weekend's competitions. No, no changes in the longer races (3,000, SC, 5,000, 10,000) and very few in the relays and throws, but more than I expected in the rest of the events, including some new #1s. I don't know whether I'll calculate another tfrrs snapshot--maybe--but this was an unexpectedly "big" weekend for the teams that competed.

Purely based on a quick eyeballing, it seemed as though Princeton's men were flexing their muscles a bit--maybe I *will* go with a snapshot, to see whether the Cornell/PU race is narrowing even further--and that Columbia's men and women are continuing to show rapid improvement.

Thanks for the correction on the Ivy grad school eligibility.

kibitzer wrote:

C/M Runner wrote:

Columbia will be sending some of their crew out to Payton Jordan.

I could be wrong here, but didn't see any Columbia foax on the Jordan entries list.

Huh - they were on the accepted entry listings, but they are not on the heat sheets. Guess they are done for the weekend. My mistake.

heat sheets (Columbia not listed - dated 5/2):

accepted entries (Columbia listed - dated 4/27):

Yep, those guys show up on the Princeton results. Maybe Columbia saw that the conditions/competition would be good at Princeton and decided to save some dough...

There could be a bit of a shakeup in the 800m as sophomore drew magaha ran 1:49. The 800 will be interesting as there is now 5 Ivy runners under 1:50. Columbia could sweep 1 through 3, but I think it's unlikely that Gregorek runs the 800m. It's also hard to count out Weinlandt as the indoor 800 champ. Does anyone have any predictions for the men's 800 at Heps?

Snapshots of the current season, heading to Heps

This is a quick virtual "scoring" of the current season's Ivy marks as reported on

http://tfrrs.org/lists/1278.html

. All events are included. I rounded down to whole numbers.

For each squad, I've listed track (individual), relay, field, multi, and total points--in that order. Apologies in advance for any arithmetic errors.

MEN

Princeton 82 + 20 + 53 + 8 = 163

Cornell 57 + 22 + 74 + 7 = 160

Harvard 44 + 9 + 61 + 0 = 114

Penn 41 + 13 + 33 + 0 = 87

Columbia 47 + 12 + 10 + 0 = 69

Brown 3 + 16 + 6 + 16 = 41

Dartmouth 22 + 1 + 9 + 0 = 32

Yale 14 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 14

Well, there it is: Princeton leads! Their 38 points in the 5,000/10,000/SC and 36 points in the LJ/TJ put them over the top. Indoors, the Big Red were a solid favorite; now, it looks like they'd need a bit of help or luck to beat the Tigers. This could be one of the great nailbiter meets in Heps annals!

To repeat myself: "The post-declaration analysis by fun. is going to be very, very interesting. (Health status of some major players may be key.)"

WOMEN

Harvard 89 + 18 + 49 + 11 = 167

Cornell 93 + 26 + 34 + 0 = 153

Princeton 19 + 13 + 43 + 12 = 87

Dartmouth 58 + 8 + 15 + 0 = 81

Columbia 52 + 3 + 23 + 0 = 78

Brown 11 + 0 + 52 + 0 = 63

Penn 12 + 18 + 16 + 8 = 54

Yale 6 + 0 + 16 + 0 = 22

To a degree that I hadn't expected, Harvard and Cornell seem to have distanced themselves from the other teams. The Big Red have managed to cut their deficit vis-à-vis Harvard by more than half, but bear in mind that the Crimson still do not have a 4x800 time posted, and they certainly seem to have the personnel to field a good squad. The fight for third place is going to be a doozy.

2014 Outdoor Women's Projections v3.0 (as of 5/4/14)

Like fun., I removed wind-aided jumps and sprints, only wind-legal marks were used, also converted mile to 1500m by dividing by 1.079

Used PB collegiate marks. No relays in this scoring.

Team scoring:

Brown- 50.3333 (1 ranked #7 or #8) (down 3 points since v2.0)

Columbia - 79 (6 ranked #7 or #8) (up 4.5 points since v2.0)

Cornell - 121 (9 ranked #7 or #8) (down 8.5 points since v2.0)

Dartmouth - 100 (6 ranked #7 or #8) (up 3 points since v2.0)

Harvard - 125 (8 ranked #7 or #8) (up 3 points since v2.0)

Penn - 29 (1 ranked #7 or #8) (up 2 points since v2.0)

Princeton - 66 (6 ranked #7 or #8) (up6 points since v2.0)

Yale - 20(3 ranked #7 or #8) (down 6 point since v2.0)

Event | Rank | Name | School | Mark | Points

100 | 1 | Barbian, Danielle | Harvard | 11.65 | 10

100 | 2 | Iheukwumere, Marvellous | Columbia | 11.68 | 8

100 | 3 | Collinsworth, Ashley | Harvard | 11.79 | 6

100 | 4 | Bong , Heather | Penn | 11.83 | 4

100 | 5 | Whitehorn, Kaitlin | Dartmouth | 11.86 | 2

100 | 6 | Ali, Lydia | Penn | 11.9 | 1

100 | 7 | Woodford, Katie | Cornell | 11.99 | 0

100 | 8 | Jones, Adrian | Cornell | 11.99 | 0

200 | 1 | Iheukwumere, Marvellous | Columbia | 24.02 | 10

200 | 2 | Akpaete, Udeme | Cornell | 24.07 | 8

200 | 3 | Woodford, Katie | Cornell | 24.15 | 6

200 | 4 | Bong , Heather | Penn | 24.26 | 4

200 | 5 | Meech, Jennifer | Dartmouth | 24.27 | 2

200 | 6 | Airewele, Ebolutalese | Cornell | 24.29 | 1

200 | 7 | Cunningham, Ashley | Columbia | 24.29 | 0

200 | 8 | Whitehorn, Kaitlin | Dartmouth | 24.29 | 0

400 | 1 | Akpaete, Udeme | Cornell | 53.71 | 10

400 | 2 | Kolliesuah, Zena | Cornell | 54.19 | 8

400 | 3 | Scott, Gabrielle | Harvard | 54.33 | 6

400 | 4 | Miller, Jade | Harvard | 54.57 | 4

400 | 5 | Airewele, Ebolutalese | Cornell | 54.64 | 2

400 | 6 | Krumpoch, Megan | Dartmouth | 54.92 | 1

400 | 7 | Parker, Jaycee | Columbia | 54.92 | 0

400 | 8 | Woodford, Katie | Cornell | 54.99 | 0

800 | 1 | Krumpoch, Megan | Dartmouth | 2:04.13 | 10

800 | 2 | Veidis, Erika | Harvard | 2:04.69 | 8

800 | 3 | Bills, Trina | Columbia | 2:06.57 | 6

800 | 4 | Wilkinson, Elyse | Cornell | 2:06.94 | 4

800 | 5 | O'Neil, Kacie | Princeton | 2:07.06 | 2

800 | 6 | Lloyd, Lauren | Cornell | 2:07.18 | 1

800 | 7 | Donovan, Margaret | Dartmouth | 2:07.68 | 0

800 | 8 | Rathbun, Madeline | Columbia | 2:07.79 | 0

1500 | 1 | D'Agostino, Abbey | Dartmouth | 4:08.67 | 10

1500 | 2 | Renfer, Molly | Harvard | 4:19.82 | 8

1500 | 3 | Markowitz, Elizabeth | Dartmouth | 4:21.12 | 6

1500 | 4 | Neer, Waverly | Columbia | 4:21.28 | 4

1500 | 5 | Sadler, Olivia | Columbia | 4:22.55 | 2

1500 | 6 | Walsh, Lindsay | Dartmouth | 4:22.66 | 1

1500 | 7 | Vailas, Arianna | Dartmouth | 4:24.13 | 0

1500 | 8 | Higgins, Molly | Princeton | 4:24.24 | 0

3000 | 1 | D'Agostino, Abbey | Dartmouth | 8:51.91 | 10

3000 | 2 | Neer, Waverly | Columbia | 9:08.72 | 8

3000 | 3 | Sorna, Rachel | Cornell | 9:12.97 | 6

3000 | 4 | Giordano, Dana | Dartmouth | 9:16.97 | 4

3000 | 5 | Curham, Megan | Princeton | 9:17.31 | 2

3000 | 6 | Kelly, Morgan | Harvard | 9:18.93 | 1

3000 | 7 | de La Bruyere, Emily | Princeton | 9:20.68 | 0

3000 | 8 | Williams, Caroline | Princeton | 9:22.73 | 0

5000 | 1 | D'Agostino, Abbey | Dartmouth | 15:11.35 | 10

5000 | 2 | Neer, Waverly | Columbia | 15:37.85 | 8

5000 | 3 | Sorna, Rachel | Cornell | 15:53.76 | 6

5000 | 4 | Giordano, Dana | Dartmouth | 15:53.96 | 4

5000 | 5 | Curham, Megan | Princeton | 16:00.71 | 2

5000 | 6 | Caldwell, Heidi | Brown | 16:05.84 | 1

5000 | 7 | Kelly, Morgan | Harvard | 16:11.05 | 0

5000 | 8 | Williams, Caroline | Columbia | 16:14.20 | 0

10k | 1 | Sorna, Rachel | Cornell | 33:34.59 | 10

10k | 2 | McMahon, Devin | Cornell | 34:03.20 | 8

10k | 3 | Reese, Emily | Harvard | 34:21.94 | 6

10k | 4 | Kellner, Caroline | Cornell | 34.38.32 | 4

10k | 5 | Simpson, Elizabeth | Cornell | 34:40.84 | 2

10k | 6 | Szpak, Maggi | Cornell | 34:51.61 | 1

10k | 7 | Hanley, Viviana | Harvard | 34:52.72 | 0

10k | 8 | Stark, Emily | Yale | 35:30.75 | 0

100HH | 1 | Franklin, Autumne | Harvard | 13.68 | 10

100HH | 2 | Piper , Gabrielle | Penn | 13.97 | 8

100HH | 3 | Abbate, Olivia | Harvard | 14.08 | 6

100HH | 4 | Chijioke, Iris | Columbia | 14.12 | 4

100HH | 5 | DeLoach, Jordan | Brown | 14.15 | 2

100HH | 6 | Daniels, Zaakirah | Cornell | 14.22 | 1

100HH | 7 | Amick-Alexis, Mina | Cornell | 14.34 | 0

100HH | 8 | McKenna, Elizabeth | Princeton | 14.37 | 0

400IH | 1 | Franklin, Autumne | Harvard | 58.30 | 10

400IH | 2 | Krumpoch, Megan | Dartmouth | 58.42 | 8

400IH | 3 | Miller, Jade | Harvard | 58.67 | 6

400IH | 4 | Stanton, Alexandra | Brown | 59.43 | 4

400IH | 5 | McMullin, Meghan | Princeton | 59.52 | 2

400IH | 6 | Woolley, Ryan | Cornell | 1:00.33 | 1

400IH | 7 | Modesett, Jackie | Harvard | 1:00.57 | 0

400IH | 8 | Sprout, Kathleen | Dartmouth | 1:01.37 | 0

SC | 1 | Sorna, Rachel | Cornell | 9:43.48 | 10

SC | 2 | Delozier, Sarah | Princeton | 10:16.38 | 8

SC | 3 | Bird, Elizabeth | Yale | 10:16.47 | 6

SC | 4 | DeVoe, Claire | Princeton | 10:20.62 | 4

SC | 5 | Garry, Kira | Brown | 10:21.01 | 2

SC | 6 | Carrick, Chelsea | Penn | 10:26.14 | 1

SC | 7 | Mantilla, Leila | Harvard | 10:26.86 | 0

SC | 8 | Dowe, Corey | Dartmouth | 10:33.90 | 0

HJ | 1 | Whitehorn, Kaitlin | Dartmouth | 1.79m | 10

HJ | 2 | Morgan, Taylor | Princeton | 1.75m | 7

HJ | 3 | Nizdil, Raegan | Harvard | 1.75m | 7

HJ | 4 | Akande, Morayo | Brown | 1.73m | 1.3333

HJ | 5 | Busack, Inka | Princeton | 1.73m | 1.3333

HJ | 6 | Dunchack, Janae | Dartmouth | 1.73m | 1.3333

HJ | 7 | Giebelhaus, Ann | Harvard | 1.73m | 1.3333

HJ | 8 | Kennedy, Theresa | Princeton | 1.73m | 1.3333

PV | 1 | Harris, Allison | Princeton | 12' 11.5" | 10

PV | 2 | Anderson, Samantha | Princeton | 12' 9.5" | 8

PV | 3 | Bishop, Eve | Cornell | 12' 5.5" | 6

PV | 4 | Centanaro, Gardenia | Columbia | 12' 3.5" | 3

PV | 5 | Urciuoli, Emily | Yale | 12' 3.5" | 3

PV | 6 | Markin, Jennifer | Cornell | 12' 1.5" | 1

PV | 7 | Bartholomew, Alexis | Cornell | 11' 9.75" | 0

PV | 8 | Brown, Stephanie | Dartmouth | 11' 9.75" | 0

LJ | 1 | Parnell, Anjelique | Cornell | 6.10m | 10

LJ | 2 | Holmes, Hillary | Cornell | 5.92m | 8

LJ | 3 | Eke, Nadia | Columbia | 5.89m | 6

LJ | 4 | Corley, Dominique | Cornell | 5.78m | 4

LJ | 5 | Parent, Teresa | Yale | 5.74m | 2

LJ | 6 | Dunchack, Janae | Dartmouth | 5.73m | 1

LJ | 7 | Gribbin, Mollie | Dartmouth | 5.70m | 0

LJ | 8 | Oliver, Imani | Princeton | 5.70m | 0

TJ | 1 | Eke, Nadia | Columbia | 13.09m | 10

TJ | 2 | Oliver, Imani | Princeton | 12.91m | 8

TJ | 3 | Jordan, Alisha | Yale | 12.30m | 6

TJ | 4 | Williams, Anna | Columbia | 12.20m | 4

TJ | 5 | Gribbin, Mollie | Dartmouth | 12.15m | 2

TJ | 6 | Sonaike, Addy | Columbia | 12.04m | 1

TJ | 7 | Holmes, Hillary | Cornell | 11.99m | 0

TJ | 8 | Okoro, Uzoamaka | Brown | 11.93m | 0

SP | 1 | Okwelogu, Nikki | Harvard | 15.31m | 10

SP | 2 | Darpolar, Josephine | Brown | 14.91m | 8

SP | 3 | Buhr, Victoria | Brown | 14.74m | 6

SP | 4 | Wilson, Karleh | Yale | 14.59m | 4

SP | 5 | Picciallo, Theresa | Penn | 14.47m | 2

SP | 6 | Berg, Emmaline | Dartmouth | 14.39m | 1

SP | 7 | Ekechukwu, Adabelle | Harvard | 14.34m | 0

SP | 8 | Johnson, Alysha | Harvard | 14.32m | 0

DT | 1 | Buhr, Victoria | Brown | 170' 5" | 10

DT | 2 | Okwelogu, Nikki | Harvard | 167' 9" | 8

DT | 3 | Darpolor, Kebbeh | Brown | 165' 4" | 6

DT | 4 | Wilson, Karleh | Yale | 152' 6" | 4

DT | 5 | Hill, Nailah | Penn | 150' 4" | 2

DT | 6 | Dunham, Melissa | Dartmouth | 150' 2" | 1

DT | 7 | Goodman, Camryn | Cornell | 149' 10" | 0

DT | 8 | Rowe, Brielle | Princeton | 145' 2" | 0

HT | 1 | Ratcliffe, Julia | Princeton | 230' 7" | 10

HT | 2 | Ekechukwu, Adabelle | Harvard | 191' 11" | 8

HT | 3 | Liebowitz, Cathy | Dartmouth | 182' 10" | 6

HT | 4 | Vermillion, Heather | Brown | 176' 3" | 4

HT | 5 | Koronios, Joanna | Columbia | 174' 3" | 2

HT | 6 | Graf, Serena | Penn | 170' 7" | 1

HT | 7 | DuPont, Taylor | Harvard | 165' 9" | 0

HT | 8 | DuPont, Taylor | Harvard | 165' 9" | 0

JV | 1 | Hay, Kelsey | Penn | 160' 0" | 10

JV | 2 | Al-Hassan, Niina | Brown | 154' 10" | 8

JV | 3 | Mayer, Hannah | Harvard | 153' 10" | 6

JV | 4 | Jones, Kaci | Penn | 151' 2" | 4

JV | 5 | Hargett, Kacie | Cornell | 148' 7" | 2

JV | 6 | Gravitte, Ellie | Brown | 148' 3" | 1

JV | 7 | Reid, Felicia | Cornell | 144' 0" | 0

JV | 8 | McHugh, Meghan | Harvard | 143' 11" | 0

Hept | 1 | Hansen, Madison | Harvard | 5152 | 10

Hept | 2 | Dunchack, Janae | Dartmouth | 5092 | 8

Hept | 3 | Jancewicz, Noel | Penn | 5035 | 6

Hept | 4 | McKenna, Elizabeth | Princeton | 4912 | 4

Hept | 5 | Krause, Kerry | Princeton | 4795 | 2

Hept | 6 | Holmes, Hillary | Cornell | 4666 | 1

Hept | 7 | Snajder, Amanda | Yale | 4517 | 0

Hept | 8 | Morgan, Taylor | Princeton | 4513 | 0

Thank you, C/M Runner! I hope everyone does understand that those are not predictions. For instance, I doubt that Rachel Sorna or Abbey D'Agostino (if you include 4x800) will actually be quadrupling!

Two quick things that I noticed. It looks like you've got Taylor DuPont listed in the hammer twice; and I think Sorna has run 9:09 this season for 3k, rather than 9:12. Neither of those affects scoring, though.

Ivyguy wrote:

Two quick things that I noticed. It looks like you've got Taylor DuPont listed in the hammer twice; and I think Sorna has run 9:09 this season for 3k, rather than 9:12. Neither of those affects scoring, though.

Oops, sorry about that. Small linking errors in my Excel file. But you're right - it does not impact scoring, and #8 for the hammer is Yale's Karleh Wilson.

Wow - it's been a really quiet week in here...

The entries will be posted tonight (previews are underway at Hepstrack.com). I understand some people have in the past adjusted their scoring potentials once the entry lists have been released... I can try to do that tonight or tomorrow morning for the women's lists.

But any predictions?

Predictions? Okay...

1. Saturday's weather will affect most events. Look for surprising results, especially in the field (and especially in the throws).

2. As she was last year, Rachel Sorna will be entered in three distance races, including the 10,000; AD'A will run her usual "Heps package" of 1,500/3,000/4x800.

3. The men's meet will go down to the relays. If I were forced to pick a winner, I'd say Princeton, but I really think it's a tossup.

4. The women's meet will be decided (in favor of Harvard) before the relays, but Harvard and Cornell will still stage one of the greatest-ever Heps 4x400 battles.

5. There will be some very tired guys on the Princeton and Cornell men's squads. A lot of each team's scoring potential is among seniors, who I'm sure will want to do everything they can to "go out" as Heps champs.

Is there a limit on the number of events someone can do at Heps? I was wondering if Cornell would try to have Bruno do the 100/200/400 triple while still helping out on the relays? Yes, he would be one tired puppy at the end of it all and I think the odds of him completing that combo is low, but I was wondering.

But I can see Tom Hopkins (Pr) in the 200, 400, LJ, and 4x400 at least. I'm not sure if he's been a regular on their 4x100 or not.

Any idea if Korolev (H) is going to run? No marks yet this outdoor season, but there have been season debuts at Heps for the longer distance events, right?

I'm hearing a lot of complaints from throwers about the crappy quality/condition of the Yale throwing circles. Apparently kids slipping/can't plant because of quality of the surface unable to throw properly. It could be that the circles are just wet. Can anyone corroborate these sentiments about the surface?