troofiness wrote:
Lance is awesome. He is consistent, and a window into a part of the US that most of us would never get to interact with.
I don't agree w/ 90% of what he says, but he consistent, even when he is being extremely rude.
Lance is a lib acting the role of the dimwitted conservative. The act is too far over the top to be believable, but the farcical exaggeration of the lunacy of the right can be amusing.
Bravo "Lance".
genuine random a hole wrote:
troofiness wrote:Lance is awesome. He is consistent, and a window into a part of the US that most of us would never get to interact with.
I don't agree w/ 90% of what he says, but he consistent, even when he is being extremely rude.
Lance is a lib acting the role of the dimwitted conservative. The act is too far over the top to be believable, but the farcical exaggeration of the lunacy of the right can be amusing.
Bravo "Lance".
Well, he could be insane.
Now they can sue nature for the right to poop babies.
Marriage is about biology, not morals. Beating the straw man of religion is easy but the facts of life are a much tougher opponent.
Lance, I want you inside me
genuine random a hole wrote:
Lance is a lib acting the role of the dimwitted conservative. The act is too far over the top to be believable, but the farcical exaggeration of the lunacy of the right can be amusing.
Bravo "Lance".
Anybody who's been paying attention knows that Lance is a socialist libertarian. He has not tried to hide this fact.
But polygamy is a social disaster, and frankly, wreaks havoc on the living conditions of way too many women and children. We ignore the data behind it at our peril.Really? Care to share this "data" or even point to a polygamous society which is a disaster?
Why are you comparing our human autonomy to that of lower intelligence species?
Could someone please explain to me why extending the same federal benefits to gay couples as to straight couples is so appalling and terrible? How does this negatively impact any straight couples, or anyone at all for that matter? I've never understood why so many people are so adamant about denying equal rights to others when it would in no way hurt them....
Live and let live wrote:
Could someone please explain to me why extending the same federal benefits to gay couples as to straight couples is so appalling and terrible? How does this negatively impact any straight couples, or anyone at all for that matter? I've never understood why so many people are so adamant about denying equal rights to others when it would in no way hurt them....
In order to understand this, you have to understand just how severely religion warps the human mind.
Live and let live wrote:
Could someone please explain to me why extending the same federal benefits to gay couples as to straight couples is so appalling and terrible? How does this negatively impact any straight couples, or anyone at all for that matter? I've never understood why so many people are so adamant about denying equal rights to others when it would in no way hurt them....
For many of the most vocal and adamant opponents it's just regret. They are bitter that homosexuality was not as accepted when they wanted to come out. Now they've lived a long life in denial only to see younger generations of gays be accepted and they realize that they shouldn't have wasted their lives.
photofinish wrote:
the concept of gay marriage has only been around for less than 100 years.
That's incorrect.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/11/two-spirit-people-north-americaBad Wigins wrote:
Marriage is about biology, not morals.
How so? 'splain Lucy...
[quote]Government Cheese wrote:
It is a great day for civil rights. Scalia's crazy bench statement not withstanding, the Supreme Court made the US a little fairer today.
Now if they would only let black people vote
Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible as a vile, abominable perversion. And unless repented of, no homosexuals will be granted eternal life. Instead, they will be thrown into the lake of fire! (Please see Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:24-28, and Revelation 21:8.)
MHE wrote:
Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible as a vile, abominable perversion. And unless repented of, no homosexuals will be granted eternal life. Instead, they will be thrown into the lake of fire! (Please see Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:24-28, and Revelation 21:8.)
I think you must have reality confused with Dungeons and Dragons.
Oh no you didn't wrote:
I hate this argument about animals displaying homosexual behavior as a reason to state that homosexuality is natural.
1) Certain primates murder each other, so because they do it, is it natural and okay for us to do?
2) When a female praying mantis mates and then kills the male, that is natural. Is that then okay for women to do that, because it is what happens in nature?
3) So, in the animal world, how many male animals have anal sex with other males, and do so for pleasure? What exactly is homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom? In humans, is a group of females dancing together on the dancefloor homosexual behavior? If two guy friends give each other a hug, is that homosexual behavior? Do a bunch of male animals actually have sexual intercourse through ejaculation with one another?
4) Why do animals having this behavior make it legitimate for humans to? If we take a biblical perspective, it is a sin to have sex out of wedlock... for humans. The bible makes no mention of it being sinful for two unmarried goats or two unmarried dogs to have sex. Why? Because animals cannot marry. Animals are great, but they are on a different level than humans, they don't have the same moral / ethical obligations that humans do. So, it is okay for animals to be promiscuous, because they are animals. Humans are not simply animals in that sort of sense.
1) Natural, yes. Humans kill each other everyday. But, unlike other primates, our minds have conceptualized that "us" extends beyond our local group and recognize that all of us humans are in this together, and that we don't need to kill each other to fight for land or resources (though many of us still struggle to understand that).
2) Mantises aren't social animals in the way that humans are. An individual mantis can go out and live its life isolated from its kind and be just fine. The only contact it requires with another mantis is in reproduction. You would do better to draw a parallel from an animal that lives in groups (like apes or elephants).
3) I believe lots of primates, cetaceans, and canines regularly engage in homosexual contact, to name a few. Are you that hung up on anal contact? Because straight people do that, too. And if you're so rigid about sexual contact being for reproductive purposes only, I hope you're just as concerned about oral sex.
You can read some examples (including anal sex!) here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals4) Why is your bible the basis for any law? If the country were 51% Hindu, would we be talking about banning the slaughter of cattle for food?
GenericID wrote:
Really? Care to share this "data" or even point to a polygamous society which is a disaster?[/quote]
Any Muslim country.
Lev 20:13 — If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
Rom 1:24-28 — Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves... For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting...
Revelation 21:8 — But the…sexually immoral…shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
get a grip wrote:
GenericID wrote:Really? Care to share this "data" or even point to a polygamous society which is a disaster?
Any Muslim country.[/quote]
Things are rough in Azerbaijan?
I don't really care what the Bible says about this. The Bible is a book of stories and aphorisms written by a bunch of guys.
People who harbor animosity toward homosexuals and their desire for rights should get a new hobby.