Okay, I'll go on the record: I vote for the Cornell women to win tomorrow.
They've had a rugged season, and I know they're not the favorites. They weren't favored two years ago, either, but they got it done.
I do think it's going to be a wonderful race. I do think the Princeton women will do extremely well, and I do acknowledge that Dartmouth is the team favorite.
Doesn't matter. Big Red FTW!
Anyone else on the 814 no transit train from ny? I saw some haloes on another car and just assumed they were going to the meet. Here are the KFC fan predictions.
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/10/2013-ncaa-cross-country-fan-polls-conference-predictions/
Heps Men’s Poll
1. Columbia (16) 184
2. Princeton (8) 179
3. Harvard (1) 141
4. Dartmouth 130
5. Yale 81
6. Cornell 79
7. Penn 63
8. Brown
Heps Women’s Poll
1. Dartmouth (9) 84
2. Princeton (1) 70
3. Cornell 67
4. Columbia (1) 57
5. Harvard 50
6. Yale 32
7. Brown 18
8. Penn
from the hepstrack twitter feed, Dartmouth women won and columbia men.
Whatever doubts he may have didn't win today, Maksim Korolev wins it.
Impressive performance by Dartmouth women - 5 in before anyone else's 3rd, 6 in before anyone else's 5th, would have won the meet without Abby D.
Any photos or videos that anyone knows of?
Anyone see photographer Dan Grossman there?
Again, looking for photos from the meet or videos. Thanks everyone.
Where was Leakos?
Wut wrote:
Where was Leakos?
He's a little banged up, as I understand it--nothing terrible, but they wanted to play it safe (especially, I imagine, with no realistic prospect of a team win for Harvard today).
He should be running at Regionals, where H will make a very serious effort at qualifying for Nationals. Watching Korolev run today was uncanny--he seemed to be in a different event from everyone else.
I read on twitter that leakos had something wrong with his left leg, so they decided to sit him out and allow another senior to compete in his place.
Great men's battle today. Princeton came up big for this meet, just not quite big enough. On the women's side, that Dartmouth crew is definitely a national-level team, and four of today's top five do not graduate. (Obviously the exception is a big one!)
I'm the Big Red Fan, so most of my attention was on Cornell. The men just buried themselves too deep early. They finished strong, but "ran out of course"--a good sign for the next (10k) race, I hope. Yeah, they're minus a bunch of top guys, yada, but they're better than what they showed today.
Meanwhile, the Big Red women may have had their best meet of the season so far. They're certainly not a lock for Nationals, but should do well in the regional meet, as McMahon and Kellner show continued progress from early-season illness/injury. Cornell graduates today's front four (though returns the next seven), so this season is really the end of an era there.
lease wrote:
Okay, I'll go on the record: I vote for the Cornell women to win tomorrow.
Doesn't matter. Big Red FTW!
lol
Brown is really hurting these days. Anyone know what happened there? They used to be so good. Brown and Columbia would have tied if you scored Brown's top 5 and COlumbia's top 10.
I'm starting to wonder whether Brown's issue are a result of a lack of decent talent rather than bad coaching. With Columbia and Princeton excellent options, and Harvard and Dartmouth good options, there's probably only scraps left for Brown.
boston dude wrote:
I'm starting to wonder whether Brown's issue are a result of a lack of decent talent rather than bad coaching.
Yeah, but part of a college coach's job description is to *get* decent talent, regardless. Lack of talent = bad coaching.
This uneducated-type of posting drives me nuts. Brown is underachieving and has been going in the wrong direction since Gregorek left...well, esp. since the Rothenbergs retired. IMHO, they need a dynamic and passionate leader like Bob Rothenberg who will put his stamp on the program for the next 15-20 years. I'll skip right past winning Heps and go to making an impact on the NCAA Division I level for you! It's going to take a good 3-5 years at this point to build a national-class program but don't suggest for a minute that it can't be done. It HAS been done and CAN be done. People make way too many excuses.
Don't say Brown can't be the class of the Ivy League. Historically, they are the 87th ranked men's cross country program in NCAA Division I according to fasterthanforty.com. They were 12th in '63, 9th in '87, 13th in '92, and 18th in '96. They are tied with Cornell and Penn with four NCAA appearances and have done BETTER with their appearances.
As of 2010 Yale and Columbia have never run at NCAAs (hard to believe, but true)! So don't give me this crap about scraps! There is a STRONG men's cross country tradition that is just waiting to be reinvigorated at Brown. Brown has never won a Heps men's track & field title, but that could happen too with the right leader. It's always fun to see someone new (or old as it were) at the top of the heap (again).
Gregorek is breaking 4 this year
fanboy1 wrote:
Gregorek is breaking 4 this year
And? So what.
fanboy1 wrote:
Gregorek is breaking 4 this year
Ya, put him within 10 seconds of his DAD
Oh, and How are Brown and Cornell Regionally ranked??
Tim Springfield is as fine a coach as any. I am lucky to have run for him.
Heps wrap up video:
Dartmouth women had injuries last year, but they still surprised me with how much they improved. Among other things, having a runner Abbey D's focus and ability appears to have helped take the team to another level.