10,000M live update thread

toro wrote:

So Ethiopia has won every single 10,000m men's final since 1992.

Except 2001. Charles Kamathi of Kenya won that year. Geb was third.

Sorry, I guess that basically just repeats what you said. So I agree with you.

Good question. What I still don't think is being discussed enough is why the winning time was so slow. Tadese apparently wasn't even close to his 09' form. Its interesting to ponder how a Bekele in peak shape would have handled this pace. Of course he would know Jeilan's ability. Even a peak Bekele may have struggled to beat Jeilan in the final 400M at this pace. On the other hand Jeilan apparently has never broken 27 minutes.

Kenyanna wrote:

Medal ceremony. Does anyone know if Jeilan's final 400 would have beaten Bekele?

Training in Japan probably helped Jeilan. I'm thinking its proximity in weather made running in Korea in summer a bit easier.

toro wrote:

So Ethiopia has won every single 10,000m men's final since 1992.

And, yet, there are still folks out there who believe genetics has nothing to do with the East African dominance.

That is real possibility, but do also attribute genetics to the American dominance in the 400?

I don't know, it seemed odd how slow the pace was overall, yet there weren't too many in it with 1200m to go.

For those of you who missed the race: http://www.ethiotube.net/video/15330/2011-World-Athletics-Championships--Ibrahim-Jeilan-wins-Gold-for-Ethiopia-in-10K-as-Kenenisa-walks-out

A few words from Kenenisa after the race: http://www.ethiotube.net/video/15332/2011-World-Athletics-Championships--Kenenisa-Bekele-in-an-interview-after-dropping-out-of-10k

Well, yes and no. Japan Running News, often quoted or linked on LetsRun, had this recently: "The first meet of the 2011 Hokuren Distance Challenge series took place June 19 in Kitami, Hokkaido. With cooler than usual temperatures 2006 world 10000 m junior champion and 2008 world junior XC champion Ibrahim Jeilan (Ethiopia/Team Honda) delivered the biggest result of the evening, a solo 27:09.02 nearly a minute ahead of runner-up Alex Mwangi (Kenya/Team YKK). Jeilan's time was the third-fastest of the year by an Ethiopian, putting him into consideration for the Ethiopian team for August's Daegu World Championships."Suggests the guy had not lost his form, but taken a life path to Japan. As for Farah kicking early, he lost by .26 seconds and kicked quite well. If he wins, we call it well timed. If he loses, to a stunning and amazing and clearly highly motivated finished, with nobody else close, we say too early? That's like an announcer using tape delay and pretending to "predict" the outcome of a race when they already know the result. Farah lost to an unexpected kicker. One folks are saying "where did he come from" about his last few years. So yes, hindsight is 20/20 as the cliche goes.

Yeah, but... wrote:

elton wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Jeilan

General rule: if an Ethiopian runner has a .en wikipedia article that's seven paragraphs long, and you've never heard of him, you're not much of a distance running fan.

To be fair, though, there's NOTHING there from after 2009. That is to say, what the hell was he doing in 2010, or even earlier this year? I think the "coming out of nowhere" effect is due to the fact that it seems he hasn't done anything of note for the past two years, and he wasn't a big name on the senior level before that.

Absolutely ridiculous kick by Jeilan. Farah should feel no shame. That long kick has won him many a race this year. He did exactly what he should have done, but it wasn't enough.

Too bad that none of the ethiopians thought to shake Mo's hand after the race. Hard to watch.

Farah was just too impatient. You want to wind it up throughout the last lap with each 100 faster. He went off too fast when he heard the bell. Jelain waited till 250 to make his full-on kick and he sustained it through the tape. Mo had no lift the last 100. This is a good lesson for him for next year.

Pittsburgh Joe wrote:

Absolutely ridiculous kick by Jeilan. Farah should feel no shame. That long kick has won him many a race this year. He did exactly what he should have done, but it wasn't enough.

Too bad that none of the ethiopians thought to shake Mo's hand after the race. Hard to watch.

Why should they be the ones to seek out Mo?

Perhaps nerves/patience played a part, given the pressure he was under as the favorite. But I don't think he made a mistake, he just lost to a guy that was on fire for the last 250-350m. I was amazed the Jelain had THAT much left. It seemed to come out of nowhere. For Mo, it's hard to judge whether you going to have that extra gear in the last 100m. Mo was still moving but Jelain was FLYING.

Mo laid it all out there like he has done all year. Great competitor. I can't fault him at all for his race.

Kenyanna wrote:

Why should they be the ones to seek out Mo?

My view: It is what gracious winners do. It shows they have respect for their competitors.

Les wrote:

Farah was just too impatient. You want to wind it up throughout the last lap with each 100 faster. He went off too fast when he heard the bell. Jelain waited till 250 to make his full-on kick and he sustained it through the tape. Mo had no lift the last 100. This is a good lesson for him for next year.

Jelain was actually kicking down the whole back stretch to catch Mo.

Maybe Mo could have gone a little bit later, or suged later/more gradually like you said but leaving it until the last 200 is not his strength. Pity Rupp couldn't have taken it on from 800m which would have helped them both. He's done the hard work sticking with the leaders all that way and with more confidence could have maybe led out which was his only chance. Easier said than done though!

It was still a great race and he got a well deserved Silver, his best career achievment to date, which he should be very proud of

watching that last 100 meters, seeing Mo's face as he was running down the final stretch he earned my respect right there. It was obvious to me he was giving 110 percent in his kick, he just didn't have enough.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Jelain was actually kicking down the whole back stretch to catch Mo.

This is what makes his feat so superhuman. I'm sticking my neck out and saying he would have smoked Bekele in his prime.

You nailed it. Bekele had a free spot as past champ.

I'm sure he knew his fitness and where the attention would fall.

Well executed by the Ethiopians. This could set up for a very interesting 5000.