Titan wrote:
SKUJ -
The answesrs you provided hopefully are not serious but in case you are serious, you are dumb, stupid and ignorant.
Sir Lance- Its not worth it
Thanks for the support, and you're right it's NOT worth it, but......I will make some final comments (since some people called me out on stuff) and then give up, for good on this.
Put this up your mitochondria wrote:
You said that Kenyans and Ethiopians live in WARMER climates. They do not.
Both Eldoret and Addis Ababa have cool year round climates. Everyone here except Dyestaters knows it. The average monthly temperature in Addis Ababa is from J-D is 62,61,63,64,64,65,63,60,61,61,62,60,60. That's not warm, thats cool.
Um, the data I just looked at shows that in the COLDEST months of the year for A.A., Ethiopia (July and August), the average high temp (I know, you were using avg temp overall) is SEVENTY degrees F. Those are the COLDEST months of the year, and the daily high for each day is about 70. You are going to tell me that that is a "cool" climate??? Sorry, it's not. It's not Hot, but it's hardly cool. The avg low temps vary month to month, but generally even in the months that have some cold nights, it's not getting below 40 degrees even in the dead of night (and many months the avg low is in the 50's). One is HARDLY in danger of freezing to death in A.A., even if sleeping outside year round without a tent. THEREFORE.....having mitochondria that would be efficient at producing heat would not a great advantage for survival there, and thus wouldn't necessarily be a trait selected for/one that would proliferate. My point is still valid, though certainly not beyond any doubts. In your book, Boston is a warmer climate than AA because Boston has months with higher high temps.
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
Um, the data I just looked at shows that in the COLDEST months of the year for A.A., Ethiopia (July and August), the average high temp (I know, you were using avg temp overall) is SEVENTY degrees F. Those are the COLDEST months of the year, and the daily high for each day is about 70. You are going to tell me that that is a "cool" climate??? Sorry, it's not.
where's your data that you looked up?
Excuse me, Lance, I clicked on those links and all they were were identical rants to this one. The links didn't say what you said they said. They were referring to mitochondrial activity of persons in tropical and subtropical climates. Neither Ethiopia nor Kenya are sub tropical climates (unless the subjects were from Mombassa?) Being in the right lattitudes does not make an area tropical or subtropical. It's the climate, stupid.
http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=5436&refer=
Which "top university" did you graduate from? Why are you such an angry man? Not enough love or what?
Ignore him. He's a pc brainwashed sissy who tries to show he's with it by hating whitey.
mobile15 wrote:
It's possible, but unlikely. They don't enjoy the poltical protection the Africans do.
yes, like the US team in 88 and 2000
get real mate or get over your inferior complex issue
The point has already been made: why protect countries in which there is no market to sell the product? It's delusional to think that Africans, from some of the poorest countries on Earth, are given a pass on drugs so that they can destroy the financial base of distamce running in Europe and America.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
Titan wrote:
SKUJ -
The answesrs you provided hopefully are not serious but in case you are serious, you are dumb, stupid and ignorant.
Sir Lance- Its not worth it
ROFLMAO..........
Stop it, Lance!
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
I give up.....I'm done, I've beaten this horse a 1000x, only to have to deal with people like you and Skuj whose attitude is: don't tell me what I don't want to hear, because I'll ignore it and call you names for ruining my fantasy world.
Nowhere did I call you names or get nasty, Lance.
Am I going to have to call up ADershewitz again? :) Come on Dude....calm down.
Don't worry Skuj, Lance a lot is angry about everyone and everything. He's the board resident psycho.
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
a dimwit like Skuj, and a 44 year old guy who says that there is no such thing as talent, but only hard work, and that if you work hard enough, you can achieve anything, yet HE has achieved NOTHING of any real note (if he had, he'd tell us).
Oh Dude, ouch eh? Where's the love? I've been nice to you.
OK, look, I DO believe in talent! Your parents have a lot to do with it. But this must not be confused with "racial superiority".
I'm one of the most talentless runers out there. I achieved a 3:37 1500m, and I'm as happy about that as ElG is about his Olympic Golds! Because I know I pretty much achieved MY potential.
So yes, I believe in TALENT, Lance.
Skuj wrote:
Sir Lance-alot wrote:a dimwit like Skuj, and a 44 year old guy who says that there is no such thing as talent, but only hard work, and that if you work hard enough, you can achieve anything, yet HE has achieved NOTHING of any real note (if he had, he'd tell us).
Oh Dude, ouch eh? Where's the love? I've been nice to you.
OK, look, I DO believe in talent! Your parents have a lot to do with it. But this must not be confused with "racial superiority".
I'm one of the most talentless runers out there. I achieved a 3:37 1500m, and I'm as happy about that as ElG is about his Olympic Golds! Because I know I pretty much achieved MY potential.
So yes, I believe in TALENT, Lance.
Hahahaha....TYPO....3:57 NOT 3:37!!!
Oh God!
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
Um, the data I just looked at shows that in the COLDEST months of the year for A.A., Ethiopia (July and August), the average high temp (I know, you were using avg temp overall) is SEVENTY degrees F. Those are the COLDEST months of the year, and the daily high for each day is about 70. You are going to tell me that that is a "cool" climate??? Sorry, it's not. It's not Hot, but it's hardly cool.
Actually the average high in July and August in AA is 65 degrees, and the nights drop down to under 50. Yes, that's cool. Even in the hottest months in AA it's cool. Some say perfect for training.
The point of the study you cited was mitochondrial activity in hot, sub-tropical or tropical climates. The study has no relevance here.
Sir Post alot, I told you before, the study on the Ethiopian highlanders shows that they have a different way of coping with altitude, not a better one. Yes thy have higher oxygen saturation at altitude, but they have lower Hemaglobin than other altitude dwellers.
Also, Bekele does not appear to have this genetic trait. He has a different blood chemistry to those highlanders.
Most of us have altitude adaptive genes. It is a very reasonable argument to suggest that for distance running, altitude training is necessary for lowland dwellers to comptete with the best in the World. Maybe 9000ft is the ideal altitude for a 10000m runner.
East African dominance in distance running is both an environmental and cultural phenomenon. I won't waste as much time as you trying to force my opinion on others, but I can certainly provide a considerably amount of evidence to support this argument.